Dawson and Klitschko destroy their rivals on Showtime
Chad Dawson may not be the biggest name in the sport, and unlike Showtime, I won't now tell you he's the world's best light heavyweight. Joe Calzaghe is still THE light heavyweight champion of the world, and Dawson's résumé is simply one that is being built steadily and even rapidly.
His wide unanimous decision win last night signaled a couple of important things, though.
For one thing, we saw the end of Antonio Tarver as a legit top-flight light heavyweight. Frankly, we saw the end of it when Bernard Hopkins beat the daylights out of him in 2006, but the world continued to believe in large part that Tarver was the fighter he briefly was before.
Tarver, if you've never gathered (somehow), has not exactly been one of my favorites over the years. He's a loud, big-talking guy with a couple of great wins. Had he not knocked Roy Jones out with one fluky shot, would we even be here? That was a highlight reel moment for anyone, let alone Tarver slamming the pound-for-pound king.
Since Hopkins, he's done nothing of merit. Wins over Elvir Muriqi and Danny Santiago mean little, if anything. Neither fighter is anywhere near Tarver's class, yet Antonio got a tough fight from Muriqi, and looked incredibly slow against an undersized, far overmatched Santiago, who had no business being in the ring with Tarver. A fight that night with Danny Green -- a solid, not special guy -- may have given Tarver far more than he could handle.
He beat Clinton Woods easily, but I'll always say, since it was obvious, that Woods just wasn't into that one, whatever his reasons were.
Dawson made him look old, slow, and like part of the past, while Chad was clearly the future and the present of the division all rolled up in one. Dawson (27-0, 17 KO) took Tarver's IBF (and IBO) titles with relative ease, winning on scores of 118-109, 117-110, and 117-110. I had it 119-108 for Dawson, though there were a couple of rounds I debated but thought Chad landed cleaner, better shots.
But with all the dissing of Tarver, I want to again make this point: outside of his whining in the 12th round that he didn't go down (his gloves clearly touched the canvas, and that's a knockdown, "Magic Man"), Tarver didn't have any Tarver moments. He was humble and classy in defeat, passed the torch in essence, and also fought like a fighter, not a guy looking to hang on at any cost.
Tarver (27-5, 19 KO) did not clinch with Dawson, who skillfully backed away from Tarver all night, forcing Tarver into the role of pursuer, which is not his strong suit. Tarver threw everything he had at Dawson. It just wasn't good enough to beat a younger, stronger, fresher, faster fighter. Dawson's gameplan worked brilliantly. He was superb.
But Antonio Tarver, even in a lopsided loss, kept the fight moving, kept the action going, and though you might not class it as a warrior loss, I'll say he went out on his shield. In the final round, he unleashed his hands and tried to find any KO he could. He didn't look for the perfect shot, he looked for any shot. That's admirable. He did everything he could to win.
There is no better photo than Herbert Knosowski's AP snap to the right to describe Vitali Klitschko's win over Samuel Peter. Klitschko's fist, what you can make of Peter's face.
To call what Vitali Kiltschko gave Samuel Peter yesterday in Germany a "boxing lesson" would require the thought that Peter had ever signed up for boxing school. To call it, simply, an "outclassing" is saying too little of the match, which was as one-sided as you could have possibly dreamt it being.
Samuel Peter (30-2, 23 KO) looked as though he had absolutely no business in the ring with Vitali Klitschko, who is going to be lauded, somewhat rightfully, for a great performance. Truth is, any tall heavyweight that knew how to control distance was going to beat the crap out of Peter.
Samuel Peter's head movement was at an all-time low. He didn't jab, and he couldn't jab. He never got inside. He tried to bull-rush a few times, and all that came of it was some wild, missed swings, and then Vitali re-finding his range and pop-pop-popping Peter until the Nigerian titleholder could takes no more, quitting after eight Klitschko-owned rounds.
Was it fear? Is it a simple case of Peter being overrated thanks to the landscape around him?
As for the latter idea, that's not his fault. What is he now at worst? Still a top five heavyweight. I wouldn't take him to beat either Klitschko and I also think Valuev's size would have its way with Peter, but I'd take him over cement-footed Chagaev, a guy he could catch clean at some point.
Peter is David Tua with less excitement. He's a lumbering, squat, straight-forward fighter that just cannot handle a good, tall fighter. Jameel McCline got him in trouble, and McCline is hardly any great shakes.
All respect to Vitali Klitschko, new WBC heavyweight titlist. Watching him and Wladimir get ready to make another weird bunch of photos after the fight was a bit much for me, and it troubles me that we're now even further away from a heavyweight champion being crowned. Had Peter beaten Vitali, all it would've taken was a Peter-Wlad rematch, and you're damn right I think Wladimir would've tried to avenge his brother. After all, big bro beat up bullies Corrie Sanders and Ross Purritty when they were done with Wladimir, and Wladimir twice hammered Chris Byrd, who holds a win over Vitali.
With Peter, you're also seeing what the future holds for Chris Arreola, like it or not. A big, thick, sturdy guy that likes to mix it up, whose power isn't Tyson-esque or anything, and whose simple boxing skills lack crispness. Plus, frankly, neither exactly goes out of their way to be in the best possible shape.
Meanwhile, giant fitness freaks the Klitschkos rule the roost at heavyweight on the strength of their jabs. There ain't nothin' wrong with either man as a fighter, if you ask me, but if it's a sensational and dynamic heavyweight champ you're looking for, keep waiting.
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What's next for Vitali?
Chagaev? Maybe Valuev soon if Wlad doesn’t fight him after Povetkin?
by kp the ghost on Oct 12, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would hope Valuev
How nice is Vitali? Maybe he lets his baby bro get the payday by letting him fight Valuev instead. You’d have to think Vitali only would fight big events, and a match with Valuev would be that (in Germany, anyway).
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 12, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard JC Gomez
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by SC on Oct 12, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is the mandatory, isn't he
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What bothered me...
How SHO stated that Vitali is the only fighter to get out from retirement and win after so many years.
Uhmm, wasn’t Muhammad Ali? I guess it was probably with the use of the retirement phrase.
"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Oct 12, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ali lost to Frazier
Which was the title bout he was building up to.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Oct 13, 2008 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i.e.
I think they meant to come back and win a title fight. Jeffries lost to Johnson. Joe Louis lost to Ezzard Charles. Ali lost to Frazier in his first title fight back. Foreman toiled around for 4 years before getting another shot and still lost to Holyfield when he finally got one. Then Holyfield lost to Ibragamov, even though he never officially retired in the first place.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Oct 13, 2008 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was before Frazier.
"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Oct 13, 2008 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's that?
He “retired” in 1970 (being suspended from 1967 – 1970), and then when he came back, he fought Quarry in a comeback fight, then Bonaneva, then Frazier (who he lost to) in his first title fight.
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=000180&cat=boxer
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Oct 13, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then
He even had a second retirement and comeback, and lost that comeback fight against Holmes as well.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Oct 13, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay again... Not a title fight
He was promoting his book
"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Oct 13, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love how
Floyd called up Dawson to tell him he’s the best out there. The only rationale I can think of for that is that he’s trying to piss his dad off, since there’s a contingent that thinks Floyd Sr was doing a better job at training Dawson than Muhammad.
Hopefully this ends Tarver’s career as a main event fighter.
Not sure I agree with the Peter-Arreola comparison. I love to watch Arreola fight, but he has a long ways to go before he can accomplish as much as Peter, simply because just way too easy to hit at this point, and practically sticks his chin out there to be hit. Also, other than that they’re both tubs of lard and and they both just kind of lumber forward, there really isn’t much comparison between the two. Peter has one punch KO power, Arreola doesn’t. Arroela punches in flurries, Peter doesn’t. Arreola has a much more varied offensive arsenal than Peter has ever had. Peter at least attempts to defend and move his head, Arreola just stands there and takes shots on the chin without trying to do anything about it other than throwing back more punches. Arreola usually throws 70 punches a round, Peter would gas himself out if he did that. Peter’s short and has no reach, Arreola’s tall and has average reach. Would Arreola get handled the same way by Vitali? Probably, but he would have at least thrown a lot more punches in the process, and Vitali wouldn’t have had enough of a reach advantage to keep nailing him with short hooks without repercussion. On the other hand, it would have looked even more like a boxing clinic, and there’s a decent chance that Arreola would have been knocked out.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Oct 13, 2008 2:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Scott
time to re-rank the Heavyweights?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Oct 13, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
done and done
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by SC on Oct 13, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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