Bad Left Hook Fight Night: Kelly Pavlik v. Bernard Hopkins
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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Don't forget! We are LIVE tonight starting at 9pm ET for the entire pay-per-view card, main evented by the catchweight pride fight between middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik and former middleweight and light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins! We'll have scoring and round-by-round coverage and analysis of all four fights! Join us!
| KELLY PAVLIK Ring Magazine Middleweight Champion WBC/WBO Middleweight Titlist Ring Magazine No. 7 Pound-for-Pound |
BERNARD HOPKINS Ring Magazine No. 2 Light Heavyweight Contender Ring Magazine No. 4 Pound-for-Pound |
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| 34-0 | Record | 48-5-1 |
| 30 | KO | 32 |
| Youngstown, OH | Hometown | Philadelphia, PA |
| 26 | Age | 43 |
| 6'2 1/2" | Height | 6'1" |
| Gary Lockett (TKO-3) Jermain Taylor (TKO-7, UD-12) Edison Miranda (TKO-7) |
Notable Wins | Winky Wright (UD-12) Antonio Tarver (UD-12) Oscar de la Hoya (KO-9) |
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Notable Losses | Joe Calzaghe (SD-12) Jermain Taylor (SD-12, UD-12) Roy Jones, Jr. (UD-12) |
| STEVEN LUEVANO WBO Featherweight Titlist Ring Magazine No. 3 Rated Featherweight |
BILLY DIB |
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| 35-1-1 | Record | 21-0 |
| 15 | KO | 11 |
| Los Angeles, CA | Hometown | Sydney, NSW, Australia |
| 27 | Age | 23 |
| 5'7" | Height | 5'7 1/2" |
| Terdsak Jandaeng (UD-12) Antonio Davis (UD-12) Nicky Cook (KO-11) |
Notable Wins | Zolani Marali (UD-12) |
| Martin Honorio (UD-10) | Notable Losses | |
| MARCO ANTONIO RUBIO Ring Magazine No. 10 Middleweight Contender |
ENRIQUE ORNELAS |
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| 42-4-1 | Record | 28-4 |
| 37 | KO | 18 |
| Torreón, Mexico | Hometown | La Habra, CA |
| 28 | Age | 28 |
| 6'1 1/2" | Height | 6'1" |
| Jose Luis Zertuche (TKO-7) Grady Brewer (TKO-8) Fitz Vanderpool (TKO-1) |
Notable Wins | Bronco McKart (RTD-5) |
| Zaurbek Baysangurov (UD-12) Kassim Ouma (SD-12) Kofi Jantuah (KO-1) |
Notable Losses | Bronco McKart (SD-12) Sam Soliman (MD-10) Sam Reese (MD-10) |
| DANIEL JACOBS | TYRONE WATSON | |
| 10-0 | Record | 7-1 |
| 9 | KO | 3 |
| Brooklyn, NY | Hometown | Pittsburgh, PA |
| 21 | Age | 28 |
| 6'1" | Height | unlisted |
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Notable Wins | |
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Notable Losses | Fernando Guerrero (UD-8) |
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I really hope the Pavlik era takes a back step tonight
Put the hype to rest for a bit
I doubt it though.
by Option27 on Oct 18, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if anyone's wondering
Yes, that’s the Tyrone “T.T.” Watson that was dominated on ShoBox by Fernando Guerrero a full 15 days ago.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
picks
Pavlik TKO-10
Luevano wide UD
Rubio TKO-7
Jacobs KO-1
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
prediction
Hopkins is definitely going to stink the joint up and is probably going to get knocked out. Say, in the eighth. I don’t know if I’m going to buy this card. Or any other card with Hopkins for that matter.
by Matt Miller on Oct 18, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who could blame you?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw B-Hop Live vs. Joe
I’m not convinced he’s done. Hopkins by SD
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's totally finished
I think Pavlik is really good and Hopkins is really old and hasn’t faced a puncher like this in a long, long time, if ever.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No knockout
Hopkins has never been stopped, and I’ve seen nothing that shows he has any vulnerability to being stopped (hell, he’s only been knocked down in one bout, and that was nearly 14 years ago). Pavlik can punch, sure, but its not like Hopkins has never faced a puncher.
Pavlik, MD-12.
by schraubd on Oct 18, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but what's the last puncher he faced?
Eastman in 2005? Eastman’s never knocked out anyone of note. Trinidad was a puncher…at 147. It’s been a long time. I’m not saying that Hop can’t take a punch or shouldn’t be considered a favorite as far as lasting all 36 minutes; he should be. I’m just saying the “never knocked out” thing is somewhat canceled out by the fact that he’s 43 years old and facing a really good puncher.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Scott
I was watching the Calzaghe/Hopkins fight again today and you can obviously tell that he can’t handle pressure fighters the way he used to. The thing that I never understood about Joe in that fight is why he rarely threw any upper cuts. Hopkins kept running at him with his head down throughout the whole fight. Kelly will throw the upper cut . . . and frequently. Eventually they will add up and Hopkins will be wobbled. I think a late KO is in order.
Only chance I see Hopkins having is the same chance he had against Joe except a with few more of those “too close to choose” rounds.
Maybe Kelly comes out respecting Bernards’ counter punching style the same way Joe did. If Bernard can take away some of the early rounds because of this, he may have a shot.
But eventually I see this turning into a Pavlik kinda fight and Kelly landing and Hopkins finally falling.
by Option27 on Oct 18, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we are LIVE
Everything’s up. No ALCS technical difficulties for boxing.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yah what was with that?
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jacobs and Watson in the ring
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any one aware the undercard before the PPV were being given live on ESPN 360?
"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Oct 18, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lots are now
But I have no E360 where I’m at. Lame.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Buffer just told me to get this party started
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Watsom gots some serious speed/power
Damn
by Option27 on Oct 18, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jacobs-Watson R1
Only a six-rounder. It won’t go six.
Swift combos and supreme confidence from Jacobs to start, which is what you’d expect. Watson, to his credit, is standing in there and mixing it up. He’s blocking some shots but they’re also knocking him back. Jacobs with three rights to the head. Nasty left hook from Jacobs — had that hit a bit more flush, it would be over and we’d be talking KO of the year.
Right hand upstairs, Watson’s down. Up and he’ll go on. Probably shouldn’t.
Watson’s destroyed to the body. It’s all over. Watson’s hurt and bad.
Daniel Jacobs KO-1
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yet Another First round KO
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas on deck
This…should be a good one.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio's Baja Grill
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R1
Nice sharp 1-2 from Rubio after some feeling out for 45 seconds. Rubio with a body shot as he moves around and stays out of Enrique’s wheelhouse. Enrique with a right, but Rubio’s lands better and at the same time. Two nice left uppercuts from Ornelas. These two are fighting rugged.
Slippery right from Ornelas. These two are coming out and trying to hurt the opponent, exactly as most of us expected. And they haven’t even started REALLY mixing it up yet. This has been heavy-handed feeling-out. Good first round.
Rubio 10-9, but close
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R2
Ornelas’ corner tells him he’s dominating. Well…
Ornelas is sitting back and trying to throw big left-hand counters whenever Rubio opens up. And there’s a charge on Rubio, beautiful stuff. Ornelas really caught Rubio with a couple shots there. Rubio is having a lot of trouble landing anything this round, with Ornelas staying away from him and working very well at distance. He’s not throwing as much as Rubio, but he’s controlling the action. There’s a 1-2 from Ornelas, which goes into the next point: this round, he’s landing the best punches.
Good combo from Rubio, and Ornelas with a left hook. Here they go, with Rubio throwing a bunch, landing an uppercut, and Ornelas comes in closer instead of backing down. Left to the body from Rubio. They mix it up at the bell, nice stuff from Rubio to close the round, nice stuff from Ornelas early. Another close round.
Ornelas 10-9
19-19
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R3
First minute of this round is both guys waiting to see what the other wants to do, so little action. Ornelas with a nice combo that drives Rubio into the corner, and Rubio gets out very quickly. They’re working the body now, but that won’t last. Both are mostly headhunting.
Rubio with a straight right to the body, not much on it. I really like the way Ornelas is staying back, picking his spots, and keeping Rubio both on guard and off-rhythm offensively. Ornelas with a left while his arm is held. Slowest round of the fight, but a good, hard-fought round anyway.
Ornelas 10-9
Ornelas 29-28
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is scary how Ornelas looks like Andrande
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They are BROTHERS
Andrade is their dad’s last name, Ornelas is their mothers last name. Dad didnt show up to hospital when Enrique was born so he had to take is Mom’s last name.
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on Oct 18, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am so glad that Pavlik didn’t fight Rubio… it would be a significant mismatch
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
ya, thats a understatement
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good round
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah this is a solid fight
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R4
Ornelas throwing some big shots inside, and Rubio responds in kind. But it looks like Enrique has captured the momentum, even if he’s not exactly running away with it.
Rubio tries a right uppercut, but Ornelas gloves it. Uppercut from Ornelas. Rubio just isn’t able to land his best punches, though he’s throwing them with crispness. Right now, Ornelas is doing a good job dictating the pace and where the fight happens and when.
Ornelas 10-9
Ornelas 39-37
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R5
Hurrld gave the fourth to Rubio. Very defensible. All of these rounds have been pretty close. Good fight. Tactical but both guys are punching with intent.
Ornelas warned for a borderline low shot. Rubio is dancing at a distance, trying to land long shots, and Ornelas is just waiting him out. Ornelas seems to prefer fighting inside tonight and not giving Rubio any openings. Fine strategy. Ornelas turns his head on a left from Rubio, very reminiscent of his brother’s robotic absorptions of punches.
Big shots from both, and I think Rubio might have hurt Ornelas a little. These two are throwing bombs to end the round! Ornelas with a great combo, Rubio with a hard left hook.
Rubio 10-9
Ornelas 48-47
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I swear Andrande is a freak… he got hit with everything and his face was not even bruised and his brother is already getting busted up with so so punches compared to Kesslers shots.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't look phased though
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i agree with you… crowd is too quiet
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R6
Hurrld gave the Ornelas the last round, so he’s now got the same score with different rounds as me.
Left hook from Rubio, stopping an Ornelas combo attempt. Dirty boxing inside, but they get away from each other fairly quickly. Rubio playing nice defense this round, thwarting Ornelas’ attempts to score and lead. Rubio with an uppercut, falls a bit short. Nice jab from Rubio. This is good fight all around. Not sensation, just gritty and rough-and-tumble. BIG left hook from Ornelas, that hurt him. Rubio’s bleeding from the nose now.
Ornelas with another good finish, enough to take the round.
Ornelas 10-9
Ornelas 58-56
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The crowd is prolly still throwing their money into the slots next door.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whats the feeling around here about the Calzaghe Jones fight?
I’ll be there!
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beyond crapful undercard and the main event expects to be lobsided.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
horrible undercard
Absolutely atrocious. This is why people have promoters, guys.
The main event is interesting and something I’d be excited to see live, but I think Jones is cooked and Calzaghe wins it going away.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R7
Uppercuts are all the rage this round, it appears. Rubio has clearly struggle with establishing anything consistent, which is the main difference in this fight so far. Ornelas has landed bigger and better shots, has had almost all of the noticeable flurries, and has kept the pace almost entirely to his liking. When he wants to press, it becomes a battle. When he doesn’t, Rubio seems too cautious to make him do anything.
They end the round with another flurry, but not as big as before. Rubio is seeming slightly befuddled now.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This fight is def. not boring
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah… they are going all out, balls out.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The uppercut is a very underused punch… and they are using it at will.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R8
Ornelas is still the one doing most of the pressing. There’s not a lot to say about this that I haven’t already said — it’s a basic, totally watchable fight. Good stuff, nothing amazing. But good.
Ornelas is just the guy that seems to want it more. Psyche — I don’t buy that shit. Ornelas is better (so far).
Nice combo from Ornelas within the last minute. They’re beating the hell out of each other, slowly (sort of) and surely. Neither guy is going to feel good at all tomorrow.
Ornelas 10-9
Ornelas 78-74
I’ve got the gap widening, but Rubio is totally in this fight.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ornelas-Rubio R9
Hurrld has it 76-76. I can’t argue — again, lots of these rounds (most of them) are very, very close. These are very well-matched fighters. They are exactly as good as each other, more or less.
Another two minutes of action. I’ll be honest — I’m just damned enjoying watching this action. I really wish the crowd would pick up on the good fight they’re watching.
It’s also, again, close in the final minute. Rubio is gaining some steam, I think. As Jim noted, Ornelas has never won a fight that’s gone this far. Ornelas, again, lands some great shots. And they go heads down and fight it out to the bell.
Rubio 10-9
Ornelas 87-84
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ornelas looks tired....
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R10
Me and Hurrld are mad disagreeing on rounds. Oh well.
Ornelas knocks Rubio back a bit, but Rubio just comes right back at him. Ornelas goes hard at the body. I think he’s hurting Rubio. There’s a left to the chin that hurts him for sure. Ornelas is pounding away nicely this round. Rubio with two body shots to answer.
GREAT combo from Ornelas, snapping Rubio’s neck and driving him to the ropes. Rubio does come back quickly. Ornelas is really testing Rubio’s mettle this round.
Ornelas 10-9
Ornelas 97-93
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Ornelas has had more snap on his punches…
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Round!
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R11
Nice counter shot from Rubio. Big uppercut from Rubio. He’s punching with precision, and I think Ornelas is a little tired. Rubio does look fresher. Combo from Ornelas. Ornelas with a sweet left to drive Rubio back. And we’re back to a square round, really, with a minute to go.
Left uppercut from Ornelas, and a SHARP combo that ends with a thud on Rubio’s face. AND RUBIO OPENS UP! Ornelas is hurt and trying to survive, and BARELY saves himself. Wow.
Rubio 10-9
Ornelas 106-103
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio's gonna need at least a knockdown?
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio-Ornelas R12
I don’t know that Ornelas is going to be able to stay up for this round. If Rubio is smart, he goes balls out. Hurrld has it 105-104 for Ornelas.
Rubio is opening up, backing Ornelas into the ropes. Ornelas wants to stay away. Ornelas FIRES ON RUBIO, AND RUBIO FIRES BACK! This is a fight to the finish, to say the last. What a grueling war this has been. Total slugfest.
Rubio with a combo, little 1-2 and a nice one at that. Trade of HEAVY right hands from both. Rubio stung from Ornelas, Ornelas hurt on two HUGE shots! This is amazing that Ornelas is up. Rubio trying to finish this. Ornelas is hurt, can barely see, and is FIRING AWAY! Crime in Italy.
10 seconds to go.
Ornelas tags him with two shots as Rubio makes a final charge. “Terrific fight,” says Larry Merchant. He’s absolutely right. Ornelas’ left eye is totally swollen shut.
Ornelas 10-9 — he actually won that round
Ornelas 116-112
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
114-114
for Lederman
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RUBIO-ORNELAS OFFICIAL DECISION
Tough fight to call. There can’t be a bad winner, I don’t think. Hurrld had it a 114-114 draw.
115-113 Ornelas
115-113 Rubio
116-112 Rubio
Marco Antonio Rubio via split decision
Tough, tough loss for Enrique Ornelas. I really thought he won the fight, but again, it’s hard to argue. Most rounds were exceptionally close.
Super fight.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I thought Ornelas won by a slim margin
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah… i thought he won by 2 round… but I guess not
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy Jones at the booth with Jim
I bet he talks some shit.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
honestly
I miss Roy on HBO.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder where Max is tonight
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he only works when Larry doesn't feel like it
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hah
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck… i love the hbo musical scores…. anyone agree?
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was watching the Pavlik-Hopkins Countdown the other night and I can’t take the theme out of my head.
by keyz on Oct 18, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib on deck
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
STEVE SMOGER!
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What Is he like the Ed Hochuli of boxing?
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoger never stops it unless it's too late
Something I both admire and sometimes hate. He’s always interesting.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is a punchers ref. He lets the action fly.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good times.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Dib
He has cute little streamers….
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R1
First minute is the average feeling-out process.
Luevano with a big flurry as Dib tries to charge in, but Dib ducks most of it. Luevano tags him again on a charge. Dib dances a lot. Good footwork. About all that can be said so far. Dib talks shit at the end of a simple round.
Luevano 10-9
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what's the count
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am dissapointed…. not one Hearns reference…
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R2
Luevano opens up again and Dib has no answer except trying to move out of the way. Which he does pretty well.
Dib tackles Luevano. Hip-checks him, actually. Nice hit.
Dib tackling again. Seems like it’s about all he has to offer offensively.
This is uh…not much of a fight. To be nice about it.
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 20-18
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dib
Kind of dbag if you ask me
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ask anybody
He’s a d-bag.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or
or as Sarah Silverman would have it, a d-nozzle.
by Matt Miller on Oct 18, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that my friends would be bitching if they were watching this fight… Dig seems like a bitch.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
See
I saw dbag you say bitch. Not very flattering either way.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it goes the distance
Want to see the end of the baseball game before the fight starts.
by ttagaris on Oct 18, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
go rays!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R3
Boy. Dib is a stinker. If this is his attempt to steal the show, I wonder what the fuck he thinks the show is.
There is really nothing to describe. This is a shitty, shitty fight so far, and I really like Luevano. He’s a damn good boxer. Dib is a broke man’s Paul Malignaggi.
Dib tries some offense. Nothing lands.
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 30-27
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is unacceptable for a undercard fighter… Dibs should never be on a ppv card unless he is a champ.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
From what you guys said before I guess i’m going to see even worse in new york next month.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they have Judah on the card and that is always interesting one way or another…
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R4
Hurrld gave the last round to Dib.
This…sucks. There’s really nothing to talk about. I mean, I’m trying to find something to talk about, but this is bullshit. Dib has no business on pay-per-view in a featured slot. This was a Shane Mosley powerplay for his little buddy and it’s crap.
Larry: “Is Dib Australian for ‘nothing’?”
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 40-36
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unacceptable that the paying ppv public has to see a fighter like Dib.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i concur
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey hey Australia… get out… most exciting part of the fight.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fight Fair
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R5
95% of this fight — and that’s no exaggeration — has been silence from the commentators. This is a fucking horrible fight. Dib is useless.
Horrible fight. The only time they’re talking is when they crap on it.
Dib is fucking garbage. VERY blatant low blow. This is shit.
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 50-45
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad… when they run out of Hammed references…
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luevano… get yourself DQ’ed. You know Suliman will strip the title from Dib for being boring.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
zzzzzzzzzzzz
Come on Rays…..I mean…this fight sucks.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R6
Luevano with a couple punches. I get the feeling I’ve described most of the round. Dib falls over. Ruled a slip.
Yep, I described most of the round. This is awful. If Mosley ever tries to get Dib on American TV again I lose respect for him.
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 60-54
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel bad
for Australian boxing fans.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Letterman somehow is enthusiastic. He must be high….
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
Dib would be a better fit on “Dancing with the Stars.”
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
honestly… what is up with doing circles with your hands down? that is judah like….
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R7
Harold gave the last round to Dib, too. I refuse to give Dib a round for this display.
Larry: “I have it 11 rounds to 1 for Luevano.”
Whenever Luevano tries to punch, Dib leans into him and clinches up. Dib as a world title challenger with his resume is about as legit as Gary Lockett. Dib with a late shot after the bell.
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 70-63
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R8
Luevano starting to unload on Dib, throwing him around and holding him in place, basically. Luevano seems frustrated, says Jim; I’d call it “annoyed.” Steven Luevano has stopped showing Dib any respect whatsoever. Jim: “Walking through Dib’s gnat-like exchanges is not going to hurt much.”
Best round of the fight. Yawn.
Luevano 80-72
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok I can't watch this anymore
Watching ALCS until this is over.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4 more rounds… which is equal to 36 mins with how ugly this fight is….
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R9
Luevano slips a left hand in during Dib flopping his hands around and pretending to punch. Dib caught with a hard right hook. Dib caught with another left as he tries to bull Luevano into the ropes and work the body.
Luevano catches him another short shot at the end of the round.
Awful fight. Wanted to say it again.
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 90-81
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
STOP RUNNING AROUND THE RING
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
swing and a miss!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R10
Dib caught with a straight left and stumbles away from a right. And then it stops. Dib caught with a short, lovely counter shot and he gets hurt again. Dib misses wild, like a kid that just started boxing.
And then the rest of the round happens.
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 100-90
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R11
Dib does land a left hook on an off-balance Luevano. I’ll give him that. Good shot, very well-timed. 99 more of those and he might be in this fight and/or worth watching ever again.
I think I might have to give Dib this round.
Dib 10-9
Luevano 109-100
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nooooooooooooo
No rounds for Dib! lol
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dib needs to be blacklisted from any more appearances on tv. Even his mom is ashamed of him.
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's saying hello when everyone else wants to say goodbye.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Luevano-Dib R12
Thank God this is almost over. I’ll tell you, Bernard could come out and put on an all-time stink-out performance and it’ll seem awesome compared to this steaming pile.
Terrible last round, befitting a terrible fight. Luevano winks at Dib after a hard right hook.
Luevano 10-9
Luevano 119-109
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dib raises his arms
Way to not get hurt, dude, but that’s about all I can say.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dib lands 9 total jabs.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it is pretty impressive to only land 9 jabs…
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno man.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LUEVANO-DIB OFFICIAL DECISION
Dib landed nine of 143 jabs.
115-113
117-111
missed the first card, but it doesn’t matter
STEVEN LUEVANO VIA UNANIMOUS DECISION
115-113? Really? Get a new job.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First was 116-112
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good ear
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or DVR
but thanks
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Williams-Verno Phillips confirmed for Nov. 29
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Finally
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and a half
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
main event is on its way
Really looking forward to this one after the hammered-flat turd that was the last fight.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome
Bunny Sigler has turned the anthem into a motherfucking slow jam.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
phenomenal
gave PROOOOOOOOOOOF
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
weights tonight
Pavlik 174, Hopkins 180
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by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Double U Tee Eff!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RAWR RAWR IT'S KORN RAWR KICK BUTT D00D
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
aw damn
No “Ghostbusters” theme for B-Hop.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That would have been effing awesome
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda funny that Hopkins without a title is the last person coming out…
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they flipped a coin
I agree with what I read somewhere else:
1. Kelly respects Bernard.
2. Kelly doesn’t care about the petty stuff.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B-HOP
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here we go...
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Round one goes to Bernard
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R1
Pavlik slaps with a left hook after the two circle around. Hopkins charging a little, but then backs out before Kelly can open up. Chopping right from Bernard after a left hook to the body. Hopkins is staying away from Pavlik. There’s a three-punch combo from Bernard. Body shot from Bernard. Pavlik misses to the body.
Bernard Hopkins round so far.
Bernard with a stiff jab through the gloves. Pavlik with a right, Hopkins blocks most of it. This is definitely a Hopkins pace so far. Pavlik misses a right, lands a chopping left hook. Hopkins with a couple quick shots inside.
Great first round for Hopkins.
Hopkins 10-9
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They probably have it 10-9 Pavlik
Put Kendry Morales at 1B, and move Sean Rodriguez to 3B......NOW LETS GO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by acuda27 on Oct 18, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik showed nothing… Hopkins wins round….
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2-0
BHOP
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R2
Hopkins come out with too much shit on his face so they stop to get some off.
Hopkins with a right over the top. Kelly reaching to land, and not landing. Nice left hook from Bernard. There’s two more, those blocked. One-two from Bernard. Pavlik is doing nothing.
Hopkins is staying away brilliantly. He’s doing an exceptional job of giving Pavlik NOTHING to hit.
Pavlik with a left hook after a missed straight right. Kelly wants to work the jab, but Hopkins won’t come close enough. Hopkins with a job, and another combo. He’s dominant right now. Hopkins wobbles Pavlik, and I’ll be damned, but Kelly looks really bad. He gets his feet back it seems.
Kelly has a mouse under his right eye. That was some shot.
1-2 from Bernard, and he looks VERY confident right now. He’s taking Kelly Pavlik to boxing school. There’s a power shot from Kelly, left hook and a right, and Hopkins complains about a shot to the back of the head.
Hopkins’ fans are rallying. He’s doing great so far.
Hopkins 10-9
Hopkins 20-18
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Loew: “You gotta work this kid!”
This is no kid.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He almost dropped Pavlik there
Good fight so far … if the action is coming from the side we didn’t expect.
by ttagaris on Oct 18, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3-0 Bhop
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 18, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R3
Hopkins is just avoiding everything. He moves away, he comes in so far that the punches go nowhere and he disrupts anything Pavlik punch momentum, or he just plain blocks it. He looks quicker, and by far.
Hopkins throwing again. I don’t know who this is, but it ain’t the Kelly Pavlik we’re used to. He seems very confused by Hopkins’ style. Three punches from Bernard, none land, but Pavlik is not working at all. Left hook from Hopkins! And ANOTHER! Hopkins is kicking Pavlik’s ass! If you aren’t seeing this, I have no other way to describe it.
Pavlik short on a long right again, and Kelly’s trying to bully Hopkins at the ropes. But Bernard is just too savvy for it so far.
Two more shots from Bernard. Pavlik with a couple punches. He’s not landed one good, clean shot so far. Hopkins has landed several.
Stunning so far.
Hopkins 10-9
Hopkins 30-27
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
through 3
Pavlik is 9/38 power shots, Hopkins 29/62. Say you expected that.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R4
Hopkins digs to the body at center ring, and Pavlik has no answers. Hopkins goes back to playing keepaway, looking to counter when he can, and making Pavlik work way too hard to find openings. Kelly has done zilch so far. A big fat goose egg.
Pavlik comes hard, Hopkins counters nicely. Pavlik lunges again, and nothing comes of it. Hopkins with another slippery combo, making Pavlik look really bad. Hopkins with a left. Pavlik trying to go to the body. He is getting more aggressive in his pursuit, which he absolutely has to be. He cannot out-box Bernard Hopkins.
Hopkins with another nice left hook, and some follow-ups. Hopkins looks like he’s toying with a powerful man 17 years his junior. I cannot believe what I’m seeing, to be honest. I’m not going to lie and say I saw this coming. This is one-sided.
Hopkins 10-9
Hopkins 40-36
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The 43 hands speed in embarrassing the 26 year olds…
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R5
There’s no turning back now. Pavlik is biting EVERY feint from Bernard. He’s got no clue what to do with Hopkins.
Left hook by Hopkins. Pavlik chases Hopkins into the corner, and lands nothing. Right hand Hopkins! Left hook Hopkins! I cannot believe this. I have no idea what to say otherwise. This is totally unexpected. Hopkins domination.
Hopkins with a couple pot-shots inside, and there he is throwing. Pavlik FINALLY lands a long right hand, but Bernard was going away. Hopkins rallies again, and then complains once more of a shot to the back of the head.
Pavlik with a jab, left to the body. Another jab lands. Now he’s stalking. He’s GOT to turn it up, and hard. Pavlik with another body shot. Those will help.
Hopkins 10-9, legs are slowing
Hopkins 50-45
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 18, 2008 11:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R6
Pavlik with a right to the body. Hopkins with a jab. And he tries to jab some more. Kelly’s picking off the power shots a little better now. The left hook from Hopkins has been excellent.
Left to the body from Pavlik. He’s gaining some momentum going downstairs. Thudding right to the body by Pavlik. Hopkins has definitely slowed down a bit. Bernard with a shot upstairs. Hopkins is now almost totally trying to stay away, and that’s going to hurt him on the cards. Pavlik trying to land almost all power shots. He’s got to work the jab better. That’s an obvious statement, but as much as Jack Loew’s said it, it hasn’t taken effect.
Pavlik 10-9
Hopkins 59-55
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lederman says Pavlik cannot win this fight w/o a KO
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another round to bhop
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R7
We’ll see what kind of legs the old man has left.
Hopkins is working again, and making Kelly miss again. Bernard throws a heavy right, but misses. Kelly is missing his right hand badly, and that’s his money punch. Without it, we’re seeing him almost totally neutered offensively.
Hopkins with a two-punch combo, with another pretty left hook. Hopkins is showboating, winding his right and landing it. Hopkins is RIPPING Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik looks wildly discouraged. Hopkins is putting on one of his all-time best performances. Period.
Hopkins 10-9
Hopkins 69-64
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Pavlik is very, very discouraged, clearly knows he’s getting schooled, and doesn’t know what to do. “I’m trying, Jack.”
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R8
Left hook lands again. Right lands again. Hopkins throwing the left hook like he’s just fuckin’ around now.
Pavlik’s jab is landing a little, but it’s not setting anything up so far. Manny Steward again points out something important: Pavlik’s punches are “gangly” and “loose.” That’s how you’d describe it. No crispness.
Pavlik gets a point taken away for shots to the back of the head. Wow. If Pavlik wasn’t out of it before, he might be now.
Hopkins with another right. And another. And another. He’s killing Kelly Pavlik. This is, perhaps, unprecedented.
Hopkins 10-9
-1 to Pavlik on the deduction
Hopkins 79-72
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopkins has the performance of the year…
by Zocalo on Oct 19, 2008 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R9
Right hand from Hopkins. I should also say that this is a good, interesting fight, and very much one of Hop’s best fights in recent years. Doesn’t hurt that the shock of this is elevating it to something even bigger.
Kelly swipes Hopkins away during a Hopkins flurry, and there’s a big, strong, straight right from Hopkins. Pavlik’s bleeding from the left eye. This is a strange, strange night in boxing. Even if you picked Bernard, no one saw this coming.
Point taken from Hopkins for holding at the end of the round.
Hopkins 10-9
-1 for Hopkins
Hopkins 88-81
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is out of control.
Amazing.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R10
Hurrld gave the last round to Pavlik. Then he says Estevez never warned Pavlik before the deduction. He warned Pavlik more than once.
This can still turn on any Pavlik combo. He does have that ability. Whether he can find Bernard is another story.
Pavlik with a nice combo. HARD straight right from Pavlik, right on the button. No reaction from Bernard, though. Hop with a body shot. Every time Kelly tries to flurry, Bernard ties him up. He’s a fucking genius in the ring. You could’ve punched his HoF ticket well before this fight, but anyone that even thinks about it right now is brain-dead.
Hopkins 10-9
Hopkins 98-90
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am at a lost for words. Hopkins is just a roman god in the ring vs pavlik.
by Zocalo on Oct 19, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is unreal
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sho Nuff
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
welp
this is a huge shock and kind of disappointing. Just realized that Calzaghe will have something else to say about Pavlik for the next year while ducking him
by battle axe of doom on Oct 19, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now I want to see a Hopkins Calzaghe rematch
If he beats Roy
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopkins night have won every round of this fight…
by Zocalo on Oct 19, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R11
Kelly looks fucking dead in the corner. Maybe the weight doesn’t suit him. I know they talk about not draining, but he’s bigger, stronger, and tougher than guys at 160. 170? He looks positively mortal.
Pavlik is lost. The fight is lost. He has nothing. Hopkins swarms, Pavlik looks like he doesn’t know what to do in that situation. Unbelievable domination from a 43-year old man against one of the best young fighters on the planet. He’s owning this round, too. With 20 seconds left, Pavlik has landed two power punches.
I bet Bob Arum is straight-up shitting his pants.
Hopkins 10-9
Hopkins 108-99
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
10-1 Kelly at best
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
10-1 Bernard I mean
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik: "I feel great."
REALLY?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why so surprised?
Why is everybody so surprised? I don’t get it. What were you all expecting? A KO from Pavlik or something?
Pavlik is a KO artist. Hopkins has a steel chin. Styles make fights and this one was a bad one for Pavlik. He never had a chance to beat Hop on the cards unless he has a high activity level (Calzaghe/Taylor) or can outbox him (NOT gonna happen with Pavlik). Pavlik has neither.
by erod on Oct 19, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Check the thread
I thought Bhop would win
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik has done NOTHING
That’s what’s surprising. Absolutely nothing.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why i didnt order it..
..I figured it would be a dominating B-Hop performance, but boring as hell. Oh well, I’ll catch the replay on HBO next week.
by erod on Oct 19, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It hasn’t been boring… it has been an all time great performance from hopkins
by Zocalo on Oct 19, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a great fight
It was awesome to see someone who said he could knock Bernard Hopkins out get his ass kicked.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pavlik-Hopkins R12
Kelly has to knock Bernard out. There is no other option.
Hopkins is coming out throwing, and tagging Kelly with whatever he wants. Hopkins is wailing on Kelly Pavlik in the 12th round of a fight he’s got running away. Pavlik with a right, Hopkins all but makes fun of it. Seriously.
Left hook Hopkins. Flurry from Hopkins, just punishing Pavlik at center ring. Pavlik has had his ass kicked in tonight. Bernard Hopkins has made him look like a nobody, and Kelly Pavlik is not a nobody. He’s a damn good fighter.
Bernard Hopkins, though, is absolutely great.
Hopkins 10-9
Hopkins 118-108
They end the round fighting with each other. Pavlik’s corner: “Yeah, real classy!”
Pavlik knows he lost, badly. He looks deflated. Hopkins is staring down every member of the media.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopkins is staring down every member of the media.
That shit gave me chills.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 19, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THE EXECUTIONER
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Baby
Comeon judges dont screw BHop…..I should split the $16 i won on this fight with Hopkins for fighting his rear off at 43 years old
Bruce Seldon > Ali
by rjhabeeb on Oct 19, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PAVLIK-HOPKINS OFFICIAL DECISION
Total ass-kicking. Absolutely dominant performance. Maybe Hopkins’ best performance ever, and I mean it.
119-106
118-108
117-109
BERNARD HOPKINS VIA UNANIMOUS DECISION
Absolutely. Fucking. Amazing. All respect to Bernard motherfucking Hopkins.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seconded.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You fight like a black fighter."
Popkins so classy.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 19, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked it
It was Hop speaking from his mean-spirited, no-bullshittin’ heart.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopkins giving Pavlick some love and advice.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*Pavlik
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopkins talking to Pavlik
He’s giving him advice. “Bend your knees…you’ll be a bad son of a bitch. … If I gotta come up in the gym with a baseball bat and get your ass outta there, I’ll do it…”
Or something to that effect. Now that was seriously classy, no matter the scruff-up at the end.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Oct 19, 2008 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't care what they say
I like BHOP
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
REspect level for Hopkins is thru the roof…
by Zocalo on Oct 19, 2008 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“whoever I fight now, I’m going for the KO”
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN headline
“Old man Hopkins hands Pavlik first loss in decision”
by Chris Nelson on Oct 19, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hof
for sure for bhop… hindsight is 20/20 but i cant believe i didnt see it coming…
amazing hes in that great shape
by thebitb on Oct 19, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I ain't afraid a no ghost.
For the record, this is not my attempt to imply subtly that Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady. Seriously. I am straight-out saying: Belichick is nothing without cheating and Tom Brady ~ DJ Gallo
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 19, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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