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Rafael: Vazquez-Marquez IV "is dead"

2303816376_bda104c0ea_medium From Dan Rafael's must-read Notebook:

The proposed fourth fight between junior featherweight champ Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez, which Showtime had been eyeing for February, is dead, Marquez promoter Gary Shaw told ESPN.com. Shaw said he and reps for Vazquez promoter Sycuan Ringside Promotions negotiated the fight, which would have paid each fighter a career-high purse of $1 million, but neither side was in a rush to commit. Showtime's Ken Hershman was tired of waiting and finally withdrew his offer Monday, Shaw said. Marquez was unhappy with his purse, Shaw said.

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After Showtime, which aired all three classic battles and had a right to No. 4, withdrew its offer, Shaw said Hershman gave him permission to shop it to HBO. Shaw met with HBO's Kery Davis Tuesday, but Shaw said Davis was lukewarm about it, at which point the fight died.

Good call, HBO. Need more space for such exciting duels as Klitschko-Rahman and the highly successful Calzaghe-Jones pay-per-view mismatch. Ooh, and thrilling competitions like Berto-Rodriguez.

It's not that I think the fight would have been made if HBO had been giddy to get it, but how wouldn't HBO have been giddy to get it? I know they don't usually headline with guys this small, but (1) that's really stupid, and (2) these aren't your average small fighters.

Dan Rafael actually answered a question similar to mine in his Insider chat today. He had this to say:

The view is that the fourth fight should be on Showtime. It is Showtime's franchise fight and HBO isn't interested in Showtime's quote-unquote leftovers, especially at the price be asked. I can't blame them. Certainly fights belong to a network so to speak. Gatti-Ward and Barrera-Morales are HBO branded fights. Vazquez-Marquez and Corrales-Castillo fights are Showtime's. You feel me?

Sadly, I don't feel it. Networks should try to book the best fights. If Showtime passes on something, and it's a good fight, I hope HBO grabs it, and vice versa. I don't care who "branded" the matchup.

What could either guy do next? If (when) Juan Manuel Lopez successfully defends on December 6, he could fight either guy and with his power, be a serious danger. It'd also renew Mexico-Puerto Rico, which is always a hoot.

The Molitor-Caballero winner will be out there, though neither present the big money Marquez, at least, seems to be looking for. There's Ponce de Leon. Vic Darchinyan has talked about fighting them, according to Gary Shaw, and screw it, that sounds good to me.

I'd love to see Vazquez recover from his second eye surgery by the first quarter of next year, call Jorge Arce's bluff, and shut his mouth. I like watching Arce scrap, but the guy is obnoxious -- he's Lil' Ricardo Mayorga. And I have zero doubt that Vazquez would beat the crap out of Arce, who was wobbled around badly by Rafael Concepcion.

A Vazquez rematch with Jhonny Gonzalez could be fun, or it could be a blowout this time around. Gerry Penalosa is always looking to fight everyone within three divisions.

Whatever they do, let's hope they come back soon. Both are can't-miss fighters and their returns will be most welcome.

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I wouldn’t count on this fight actually being “dead.” And it’s actually probably a good thing that it’s being postponed. The hype won’t go anywhere, as the first three fights continue to be replayed, and as you suggest, there are several interesting match ups out there for both men.

I’m with you about HBO’s stupidity here though—their bias against the lower weight divisions is a real problem.

by Matt Miller on Nov 21, 2008 6:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The hype could very well go somewhere

If this fight is off, they’ll need to fight other guys eventually, and if they look like shit when doing so (I think there’s a legitimate possibility that the third fight made at least one of them shot), then people aren’t going to want to see a fourth fight that could either be viewed as non-competitive or between shot fighters.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Nov 21, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Vazquez

If I had to bet which one is more likely to be shot of the two, it’s Izzy Vazquez thanks to his second surgery for a detached retina. You only get so many injuries like that.

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by SC on Nov 21, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gerry! Gerry!

I’m rooting for Penalosa to get the shot. Dude has worked hard to get where he is — and I love that there doesn’t seem to be any big fight out there he’s remotely inclined to say no to.

by schraubd on Nov 21, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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