Calling Out the Haters: What Joe Proved Last Night
Scott has a real gift for being diplomatic and running a good ship here at Bad Left Hook. It's one of the main reasons this blog has thrived and expanded its reader base (it doesn't hurt that he is also a talented and prolific sports writer). But I'm not going to be so diplomatic here.
In a recent post Scott asked, "did Joe Calzaghe prove anything last night?" I know he meant to ask what Joe proved as a boxer, and I'll get to that shortly. But one thing last night's fight proved convincingly is that no matter what Calzaghe does--no matter who he beats and however convincingly--there is a large and vocal group of fans who will take the occasion to announce that Joe is a chump. A slapper. A fight dodger. Not a real man. A coward. A wimp. A sloppy boxer. A lucky boxer. A sheltered boxer. And above all else, an asshole.
Ignoring the last point (which I sort of agree with), is anyone else but me sick and tired of this kind of talk? And with every win, the chorus just seems to get louder. When a boxer's triumphs result in increasing condemnation of his ability, rather than acknowledgment of his achievement, it's fair to ask if the situation tells us more about the haters than about the boxer. I know Scott and many others, who have judiciously criticized Calzaghe, do not fall into this set. But they exist, and there are a lot of 'em.
Is it because Joe's white? For a few, maybe, but I doubt that's it. Is it because he's not American? Somewhat, I suspect, though not really. It may be more that he's from Wales, which makes him more or less British in many American's eyes, and I do believe that American fans, for whatever reason, have a history of being biased against British fighters. No, I think the real reasons are his showboating, his mouth, and his boxing style. Jones fans, in particular, probably hated seeing Calzaghe out Jonesing Jones at his own game. But I'm going to ignore the showboating thing, which I admit sometimes irritates me too. Joe's mouth has been a subject of much discussion here at BLH, and I've already made my opinions known about that. But what about his style?
Slappy Joe. We've heard it; we've seen it. I'm not arguing that he doesn't use pitter-pat punches. He inarguably does. But when a boxer is as successful as Calzaghe has been, I think it's time to ask if there might not be more going on here than meets the eye. Which brings us to what I think Joe proved last night. I've already argued that Joe's clinches are not a sign of weakness but a powerful tool in his arsenal (the same could be said for Hopkins, though Hopkins abuses it more). His rapid light flurries are an even more powerful tool, and it's a tool more uniquely characteristic of Joe's particular genius as a fighter.
Joe's slappiness, if you will, is at the heart of his greatness. It is not a weakness but a profound strength.
It's not so much that he uses these light flurries to set up the one big blow. Rather, these light punches serve multiple purposes. For one, they are at the core of his defensive style. As we saw last night, you just can't get your thing going with so much leather in your face, even if it doesn't hurt. For one, it impedes your visibility, your ability to get a good look at the holes in your opponent's D. Joe's slappiness, along with his deft head movements, are why he is able to get away with letting his guard down so much. When opponents try to take advantage of the exposure, the flurries come. Eventually, you don't even see these openings as opening any more. You know what's coming when you try. And the commentators are left asking why you're not taking advantage of all the openings Joe is giving you.
They are also at the core of his offense. The cumulative effect of such punches is significant, as we saw most pronouncedly against Lacey. But moreover, I noticed something last night that I hadn't clearly seen before: what starts out as a slap doesn't always end up that way. Hear me out. I'm saying that a big part of Joe's punching style is the punch that is devastating precisely because it starts out light. The slappiness leads Joe's opponents to believe that they can take it all night long, waiting for the big punch. That's what Jones seemed to think, allowing Joe in and just covering up, almost rope-a-dope style at times, in the belief that he will eventually get the big blow in.
But they start to hurt much more quickly than expected. Joe starts his flurries very weak and light in order to encourage such laxity for when he wants to use his energy on the harder blows.
Watch the flurries carefully: slap, slap, slap, (opponent, feeling little pain, relaxes, but with all the leather coming at him, waits and has his offense temporarily spoiled) ... Joe sets his feet a little more and starts to bring his elbows in ... slap, slap ... bam, bam, bam. Then clinch or back off. Rinse and repeat.
Those "bams" may not have one-punch power, but they are deceptive in their ability to deal damage. Last night, this was especially true of Joe's early assault to Jones's midriff, which was brilliantly executed and took Roy's legs completely out of the fight by about round three. It was all downhill from there for Roy.
Some say Joe is an ugly fighter, and with his clinches and slaps, I can see why. But personally, I've come to appreciate and respect his style. It's subtle. It's tactical. It's energetic. And above all else, it is completely unique. For better or worse, there has never been a fighter like Joe Calzaghe. Love him or hate him, for me at least, he is a fascinating study in idiosyncrasy and eccentric ring intelligence.
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Shit he proved me wrong
I always wondered if PPV ever lasted longer than its schedule time. Now, I know they last just over twelve hours. Fell sleep by the 5th round and finally saw the winner on ESPN around 11:AM. That was extremely exciting. Keep up to good work Joe.
"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay
He is a great fighter, and he as a very good case of being called the best UK fighter ever. The thing is that when you are the best, people will always be critical of what he didn’t do in his career.
There's no argument that he's the best UK fighter ever
I can’t think of a reasonable argument where Calzaghe can possibly be rated higher than Bob Fitzsimmons, who won titles at middleweight, light heavyweight and heavyweight back when there were only 7 weight classes and who beat I believe 6 hall of famers. Best of the last 50 years? I can see the argument, although I’d venture that Lennox Lewis was still better.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
For the record
I was agreeing that when you are one of the best, people will always be critical of you. Clearly, if you want to dig back, Fitzsimmons was more accomplished. And British boxers in general dominated the early years.
Fighter?
“For better or worse, there has never been a fighter like Joe Calzaghe.”
We need a new name for the display of unique technical prowess displayed last night. Certainly, we cannot use the metaphor that Calzaghe’s style has anything to do with “fighting”.
That was not fighting. I wouldn’t call it boxing, but that is a more open debate.
If we are to use the words ‘fighting’ and ‘boxing’ inter-changeably Joe Calzaghe cannot be part of the conversation.
I got one word for his style...
…and that’s CHEAP.
If you’re going to flurry, or throw a single punch for that matter, put something behind it. Throw it with some conviction dammit. At a minimum throw the punch like you’re supposed to. Imagine you had a son and you are teaching him to fight. Would you teach him to throw a punch like a Calzaghe flurry? When you get into a fight, are you going to throw a Calzaghe flurry?
Dude has a lame style. The only fight I was ever impressed with was Kessler. I still would have had him winning the fight without the pitter-patter. He’d probably still be a damn good fighter without it. I just don’t see why he does it.
Good stuff
His flurries are effective and are landing for the most part, obviously. If Calzaghe continues to fight, I think the opponent will have to punch while Calzaghe is flurrying. I think that is the most opportune time to punch for the opponent. However, I don’t think this will happen. Calzaghe will retire. I would like for him to fight Chad Dawson or rematch with Benard Hopkins. ’Ol well; moving on.
Taylor vs Lacy will be fun to watch.
More haters come out with every victory? That’s because he wont take the best fights available. I wouldn’t even care if he and his father wouldn’t talk crap on boxers he refuses to fight. To hear Enzo tell it, he’s the best fighter in history, and that’s just annoying. The only real names on his ledger are Jones and Hopkins, each 10 years out of their primes. Ironically, Roy Jones taught him everything he knows about cherry picking fights, he set the model that Money May and many others are sure to follow. That’s fine, just don’t claim to be the best. Money or credibility, pick one.
It's not the size of the dog... It's whats in the fight of Bernard Hopkins! -BHOP
"Money or credibility, pick one."

You can have both.
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by Scott Christ on Nov 10, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hall of Fame Fighter...Your just going to have to deal with it
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