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ESPN Sunday Conversation: Oscar de la Hoya

Nothing terribly interesting, but it's nice that ESPN is bothering to talk boxing, and another feather in Oscar's cap, as he's apparently the only guy that can actually get himself on the network for more than a 10-second blip.

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Boxing vs UFC: I’m not going to open that can of worms.

Why even reprint their comments?

by Matt Miller on Dec 1, 2008 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

kicks

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 1, 2008 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

why here?

I agree with Miller. No point in having those comments on the front of this page. ESPN still posts pre-fight coverage of Pavlik-Hopkins, that’s why I’m here and not there. Let’s get that off the front of this page.

by lcollins1 on Dec 1, 2008 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

ok, removed

But here’s the thing: those two comments are still the ONLY two comments on that page. No one — not a single boxing fan — has said, “Great! It’s about time ESPN talked boxing,” or anything like that. We get the non-fans that think boxing is dead and nothing more. Public perception IS that boxing is dead. Where are the boxing fans? We know they exist.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 1, 2008 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

Where are all the boxing fans?

Right here at Bad Left Hook, that’s where…

by Matt Miller on Dec 1, 2008 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s just Dana’s parrotheads.

If it’ll make any of you guys feel better, Der Spiegel just did a damning piece on UFC.

by RoyalB on Dec 1, 2008 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Didn't elite or whatever it is called just went out of business?

"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 1, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Elite XC.

And yes, technecally they’ve been out of business for a month. They’re holding contracts hostage right now.

by RoyalB on Dec 1, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Regardless of what the comments were:

"He’s [Oscar] damaging the sport of boxing – Juanma Lopez

"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 1, 2008 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

i dont think he damages the sport

he is the one boxer (besides “retired” floyd) that is mainstream in the sport. Even though the last 2 years have been great in terms of boxing quality the money made and popularity is a disappointment. oscar is the only boxer with the popularity to be on a “sunday conversation” and that helps the sport no matter how you put it. i am not a fan of oscar but i respect the fact that he fought everybody he could and that he helps the boxing landscape with his promotion of the sport, even if it is a fake and contrived personality that he puts on for the cameras. espn also did a piece on manny on their show e60 and they post the entire episodes of 24/7 on their boxing page. also dan rafel is one of the best boxing writers around, so credit espn for their coverage of boxing. remember they covered hopkins-pavlik and jones-calzage and last week they even ran the results of the lacy-taylor fight on their ticker.

by Eddie Gonzalez on Dec 1, 2008 8:20 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

+1

They did run Hatton over Paulie on the ticker, too.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 1, 2008 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Post

Personally, Oscar really rubs me the wrong way, but what you say makes sense. I also rec’d you.

by Matt Miller on Dec 1, 2008 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

same

Oscar irks me with his personality, whatever it is, but I’ve always said we’ll miss him when he’s gone. He’s the guy that makes a big fight.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 2, 2008 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

i hate

listening to him talk too, but i love to see boxing get attention. and he is the guy who brings the most attention to the sport so its just something we have to deal with. my hope is that manny, one of the best talents boxing has to offer, can become a big draw because of this fight, and thats why i want him to win. manny learned english to appeal to americans and the big market here so he could be a superstar (here in america) and i think this is a huge step towards that.

by Eddie Gonzalez on Dec 2, 2008 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

What is scary is to think how boxing would be without him. Let say he never fought Mayorga… What does that make Mayweather? Is he even relevant? Nope… Do we have 24/7? Does HBO get out of boxing with all the disappointing PPV numbers it gets?

by Zocalo on Dec 2, 2008 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

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