Need some guidance from the Bad Left Hook posters..

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 15, 2008 9:21 PM EST Comment 19 comments

Hey there guys, I am just now getting back into the world of boxing after a 5 year absence... my reasons are mainly for getting out of touch was just due to wasting money on less than stellar PPV's and just a a distaste for how things were revolving around Don King. I got a chance to see the Pacquiao vs De La Hoya and the fire was just lit again. I've watched fights w/ Kelly Pavlik, Bernard Hopkins, Ricky Hatton, Cotto, Cassamayor, the Klitschko's and Margarito over the last week or so.... its just a lot of great action.

Those have all been great fighters to see but I'm sure there has been great advances in the last 5 years and there are fighters that I'm missing here. What are some other fighters out there that you guys feel are making some major waves? I'm seeing that Versus is putting up some great fights on TV, is ESPN still doing anything worth watching?

Any guidance would be much appreciated and if the "noob" comments could be kept to a minimum... that would be great... lol.

Thanx all...

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Be gentle...lol

I’ve gotten very bored with the MMA world…. so I’m just going back to where the interest in combat sports began.

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 15, 2008 9:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You get pushed out

But you get pulled right back in— Al Pacino

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 16, 2008 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao’s big rival, great technician and heart. To me(may take some flack on this), Marquez is like watching a boxing robot, not in any tactical or strategic sense, but technically the guy he’s so clean and sharp it’s almost inhuman

Juan Diaz has a great heart, he’s a Texas fighter so I may be biased. Watch him fight Michael Katsidis if you can. Another Texan, James Kirkland, major flaws but big-league attack dog.

Paul Williams. Many people say the guy is boring but he’s been a welter-weight at over 6’, freakish. And, he showed a way to beat Margarito.

Did you ever see Marco Antonio Barrera v. Erik Morales? Great contest, even though it was more like 8 years ago.

For up and comers see Andre Berto, Yourikis Gamboa, and (((can’t remember his name, just destroyed Texan Victor Lares on the DLH-Pacman card))). Also, David Haye is a really entertaining ’tweener trying to be a heavyweight. Check out David Haye v. Monte Barrett, entertaining but wild.

Others: Alfred Angulo, Lucian Bute. That’s the top of my head, I’m sure I’m missing some big dogs

by lcollins1 on Dec 16, 2008 1:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Daniel Jacobs is the guy that smoked Lares

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by SC on Dec 16, 2008 2:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh I've seen a lot of Erik Morales fights

That was one hell of a fight between him Marrco Antonio Barrera…. were there ever any rematches? I caught wind that Erik Morales started having some “life issues”.

I heard about David Haye calling out the Klitschko’s so I looked up some of his fights and wow, great freakin skill… lol… plus he appears to have that entertainer in him that adds some drama to a fight. Shoot, I remember back when Evander Holyfield and James Toney were my favorite Cruiserweights.. lol

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 16, 2008 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

two rematches

Both great.

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by SC on Dec 16, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank ya kindly, sir

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 16, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ESPN still has some good action fights

It’s too bad they’re down to just Friday Night Fights, but them’s the times.

You absolutely HAVE TO watch the Israel Vazquez-Rafael Marquez trilogy. It has a legitimate argument as the best three fight series you’re ever going to see. I find it hard to judge the stuff I didn’t get to watch live from back in the day, but of the modern trilogies I rank it over Barrera-Morales (which was hard for me to do), Gatti-Ward, and Bowe-Holyfield.

Pavlik-Taylor from last year was blistering.

Chad Dawson is good and can still get better. Jorge Arce is always a hoot, same for Vic Darchinyan — those two fight on February 7. Should be good while it lasts. The recent Carl Froch-Jean Pascal fight was a hell of a cracker, and I guess FOX Sports Net is going to replay that before the end of the month as they pick one fight from overseas every month to air on tape delay (this is the first time they’re doing it, and it’s a great idea).

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by SC on Dec 16, 2008 3:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I saw the Pavlik-Taylor fight

That fight made me a Kelly Pavlik fan, I saw a bunch of highlight reels of Jermaine Taylor and he is an incredible talent.

I read the posting that someone made about Carl Froch, I’m definitely gonna have to check him out too.

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 16, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Juan Manuel Lopez

by boxingstudent on Dec 16, 2008 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

not much to see though

First round KO
First round KO
First round KO

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by SC on Dec 16, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that's true

but he’s must watch in the future.

by boxingstudent on Dec 16, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanx for the great guidance...

Y’all are definitely gonna keep me busy over the next few weeks…. I thank you. My wife thanks ya too since I’ve been bored out of my damn mind since I quit training… lol

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 16, 2008 3:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Track down

All three fights of the Israel Vasquez-Rafael Marquez trilogy. Probably two of the three best fights of the last 5 years were in that trilogy, with the other being Corrales-Castillo I.

Fights to track down (in general order of how good I rank the fights):
Marquez-Vasquez I – III
Corrales-Castillo I
Barrera-Morales III
Toney-Jirov
Morales-Pacquiao I
Gatti-Ward III
Katsidis-Earl
Adamek-Cunningham (hint – there’s a youtube link on this site)
Sithchatchawal-Monshipour
Adamek-Briggs I and II
Pavlik-Taylor II

Fighters who have really established themselves in the last 5 years and are worth watching (i.e. not boring):
Miguel Cotto
Antonio Margarito
Paul Williams
Kelly Pavlik
Chad Dawson
Vic Darchinyan
Juan Diaz
David Haye

Fighters who are on the cusp of stardom and are worth watching (i.e. not boring):
Juan Manuel Lopez
Victor Ortiz
Lucian Bute
Timothy Bradley
Alfredo Angulo
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Jorge Linares

The new generation of warriors not destined for greatness but fun to watch:
Michael Katsidis
James Kirkland
Chris Arreola
Andrey Tsurkan
Chris Henry
Edwin Valero

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 16, 2008 4:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Holy crap man...

This is an awesome list…. it’ll keep me busy for a while. Thanks for taking the time to do this.

I watched the YouTube fight w/ Adamek and Cunningham, great fight… definitely exciting.

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 16, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well there's a rec

Katsidis-Earl is kickass. I’d also recommend Katsidis-Amonsot, which is just brutal. I know Amonsot’s career ended because of the fight and it always seems weird to me to recommend anyone watch it, but I take the line that it’d be shittier to not appreciate how hard he fought. And Casamayor-Katsidis, which I loved.

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by SC on Dec 17, 2008 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Casamayor-Katsidis

That was a good one. Good suggestions all over this thread.

-Brian

by bp on Dec 17, 2008 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the Info, guys

I, like gunslinger, am trying to get back in the loop when it comes to boxing

by kid dynamight on Dec 17, 2008 11:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This is the site to be at man...

I’ve been busy as hell watching all these fights they have suggested and they have all been bad ass fights so far… and I still got a shit load left to watch. Vasquez vs Marquez trilogy was incredible, I’m starting to make a dent in all the action.

Don’t be afraid to ask these guys questions.. they’ve all been awesome to me.

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 18, 2008 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs