Tomato Cans: December 17, 2008
One of the best fights being talked about right now is, of course, the lightweight world championship fight in the works pitting Juan Manuel Marquez against challenger Juan Diaz. Latest word is that the fight is close to done, with HBO televising on February 28.
Also, DIaz's manager, Willie Savannah, is saying Marquez has backed off on his earlier opposition to fighting in Houston, which is Diaz's hometown. Savannah indicates that it is for business reasons, since Las Vegas is "a ghost town," and citing the fact that Marquez's September fight with Joel Casamayor didn't do big business at the live gate. I'd also wager that the Casamayor-Marquez buyrate estimate of 100K was rounded up a fair bit -- maybe by 15-20 percent.
Houston really does seem the best home for this fight as far as business goes, and it's not like Marquez has never fought in hostile territory before, or never fought in an arena where the fans just weren't really for him. They could hold this fight in Diaz's parents' backyard and he's going to be the favorite.
I really do love the fight, and outside of Marquez-Pacquiao III or Marquez-Campbell -- neither realistic right now -- it's the best fight for Marquez, and it's definitely the best fight for Diaz.
Robert Guerrero has gotten his split from promoter Dan Goossen after California judges sided with him, and that means Guerrero is likely headed to Golden Boy Promotions to resume a career that has been on the shelf for 10 months. He vacated his featherweight title in June and plans to move up to 130 pounds. Golden Boy had hoped the case would be settled in time to sign Guerrero and put him on the Oscar-Manny undercard, likely in some gross mismatch where he could've creamed some poor sap. I'm happy Guerrero will be back in action soon because he's a good fighter and a good guy. With 130 being a bit of a Death Valley right now, he could easily jump into the upper echelon of the division.
If you were expecting newly-crowned cruiserweight champion Tomasz Adamek to go right into a rematch with Steve Cunningham, I hope you didn't count your chickens. Adamek appears headed for a March 21 bout with IBF mandatory B.J. Flores. If you've never seen Flores fight, you frankly haven't missed a whole lot. His last bout came in February, when he outpointed popular Darnell "Ding-a-Ling Man" Wilson on ESPN2. I thought he clearly won that fight, but he absolutely did so in an unappealing fashion that won't make him popular with the action fans. I think Flores is closer to a "Contender" fighter than he is an actual contender against the division's best, and I'd expect Adamek to have little trouble with him. He was able to avoid Wilson's power because Wilson cannot box. Adamek can box, and he has power. I don't suddenly think Adamek is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he's underrated, has been for years, and I damn sure think he's better than Flores.
As for the fight taking place ahead of Adamek-Cunningham II, it happens. He's getting rid of a mandatory, and I can't fault him.
Don King talked about that dude what threw a shoe at President Bush. Same ol' Don. He also lost a suit.
50 Cent finally spoke out on that reported fight with Floyd Mayweather, Jr.:
"Yeah, we got into a little scrap, a little boxing match," said 50. "Well, it wasn't really much of a boxing match because he hit me in the back of my ear. He's so fast, he's just so fast. The thing about it is, everyone who is around him works for him. And for a second, he tried to talk to me like I was one of the people working for him. He tried to tell me what to do so I grabbed him. I snatched his little ass up then he hit me and was like 'What's wrong with you?' We were mad for a second, but then everything went back to normal."
They should totally fight on PPV.
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For the record
Both Teddy Atlas and I (the former being much more important than the latter) scored Wilson beating Flores. Wilson actually outlanded Flores in the fight, landed the harder punches, and had Flores hurt a few times. Boxing may be the art of “hitting and not getting hit”, and Flores was masterful at making Wilson miss, but he seemingly forgot about step one. And I categorically refuse to give rounds to someone who refuses to punch, no matter how much defensive savvy he shows. Adamek will tear Flores apart — maybe afterwards we’ll see the rematch we actually want.
Tomato Cans long overdue
Quoting from 50 cent. Wow. You were better off setting a grudge between Rudolf the red nose reindeer and Santa Clause.
Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
Back in the day
Jim Brown wanted to fight Ali. Brown was a great athlete who boxed growing up, 2 sport all american (football and lacrosse) and would have won a bball national championship had he not quit the team over a race issue. Brown backed off the idea when he saw Ali’s hand speed in person.
Id pay to watch 50 get picked apart by Mayweather. 50 is no slouch, had a lot of golden gloves fights, and has some size on pretty boy. It would be fun to watch.
Did anyone read some of the comments from the link
it is like bearing witness to the de-evolution of man. Just sad.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 17, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
As dumb as he is
50’ll probably be wearing a Flatjacket for that fight.
Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 17, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
He fought smarter than this in the Ding fight
Which was very boring, but in about 4 other fights of his I’ve seen, Flores always reminded me of a super-sized version of Peter Mandredo. I guess I’m just not all that impressed, and I suspect that Adamek should be able to dominate. Not a weak defense though still.
Marquez should be able to beat Diaz, but frankly he looked like he’s starting to fade in the Casamayor fight, which seemed much more difficult for him than it should have been. When Pac, Marquez and Guzman announced they were moving up, I was of the mind that H2H those became the best three fighters in the division, and I still stand by that.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
50/Money May
I wondered why 50 appeared at Wrestlemania. They would’ve had Snoop and 50 at the same Mania.

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