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For Pacquiao, size can't matter

Manny_pacquiao_picture_a4_medium You know all the sayings. Well, they all apply.

If Manny Pacquiao, whose highest-ever fighting weight came in June at 135 pounds, is to defeat Oscar de la Hoya this Saturday, he cannot let the size become an issue.

Some have painted the size as the reason to call this fight a "circus" or a "joke"; others have decided it's a media myth created by those opposed to the fight for whatever reasons they may have.

But facts are facts. Oscar de la Hoya is a bigger man than Manny Pacquiao. He's four inches taller, has a good amount of reach on Pacquiao, and has never weighed less than 130 pounds for any fight, going as high as 160 against Felix Sturm.

Some will point out that Pacquiao was just 17 when he started fighting professionally at 106 pounds. But do you think Oscar was 106 pounds when he was 17? He won a lightweight Gold Medal at the '92 Olympics in Barcelona, when he was 19. So it's doubtful.

The size can matter. It doesn't necessarily have to, and that's probably at the core of a lot of the belief Freddie Roach has in his fighter.

Oscar is a big welterweight, about as big as Antonio Margarito. But he's also 35 years old and really does seem to have trouble "pulling the trigger," as Roach puts it. When holding his own with the faster, more talented Floyd Mayweather, Oscar lost the ability to land an effective jab and lost the fight because of that.

What is Oscar's last truly big win? Vargas? That was over six years ago. Mayorga was a nice comeback win in '06, but we all know the score with Mayorga. The only other wins on his sheet since Vargas are Yori Boy Campas and the debatable middleweight victory against Felix Sturm.

Pacquiao can win this fight, but he's going to have to be at his best defensively. At some point, Oscar will test his chin. And even if he can't knock Manny out, his natural advantages give him the ability to turn this into a toying session if he plays his cards right. He could jab all night. It probably won't back Pacquiao up for long, but it'll win rounds.

How can Pacquiao win? He has to make it about speed. There is no one Oscar could have brought in that truly spars like Pacquiao fights. Manny is a unique boxer. If you watched the most recent "24/7," you saw Bernard Hopkins in Oscar's gym giving his sparring partners advice on how to fight like Pacquiao, and "make Oscar work harder than he wants to work." Though B-Hop meant that to benefit Oscar, he got what Manny needs to do exactly right.

Manny has to move, throw combinations, and light Oscar up with them. I don't think Manny is big enough to be the first guy besides Hopkins to knock Oscar out, but I do think he can discourage him, frustrate him, and make him fight outside of his game. Oscar isn't the quickest guy anymore, his offensive reflexes looked somewhat shot against Steve Forbes in May, and even if he is training to see things before they come, the lightning-fast Pacquiao is going to hit him.

I'm not trying to say that Oscar is slow or flat-footed or anything, but if the Pacquiao camp hasn't watched tape of Roy Jones' win over John Ruiz, then I think they're crazy. Jones was as close to perfect as he needed to be that night. And while these two have an agreed-upon weight limit, Pacquiao will need to be the same. Also in Pacquiao's favor is the fact that Oscar de la Hoya hasn't fought a southpaw since 1997, when he dominated Hector Camacho. Manny can give Oscar a lot of looks he's simply not used to, no matter how smart and savvy Oscar is by now.

This isn't the only way for Manny Pacquiao to win, of course. There are several ways for it to happen. But when I see Pacquiao's hands raised, I see that it came because he was too active, too fast, and too able to box hard for three minutes every round. I see a frustrated and dejected Oscar de la Hoya who has to seriously think about his career. It's not that this is the only outcome I see, either. But if Pacquiao is to win, he has to take the size advantage away. If Oscar's on his game, Pacquiao can't win being tentative.

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This article makes the point of why I think this is a perfect fight for Pac-Man……..If he loses people just say “Ohhh David couldn’t take down Goliath” and he is still number 1 p4p…….If he wins not only does it look great doing it but because of the way he has to fight in order to win the small majority of the people who pay for this and are not Manny fans will have to adore Manny………And that probably makes no sense but it did in my head

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by rjhabeeb on Dec 2, 2008 6:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I get what you're saying

And I agree Manny’s going to come out of this with even more fans than he already has, win or lose. He’ll make a fight of it.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Dec 2, 2008 6:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

great article and points on how pacman can get the W.

the only thing is i think its well know that oscar seems to have trigger issues, but in the article you mention that ‘his offensive reflexes looked somewhat shot against Steve Forbes in May’ i only watched that fight on the night it aired and know stevie didnt really have the size or power to really be effective against oscar. but the way i remembered it was that offensively oscar did look quite good and kept the pressure and activity up for the whole 12 rounds.

i really dont remember seeing flawed offensive reflexes in that fight, but like i already said i only watched the fight once. but i do remember thinking to myself that he didnt fade in that fight.

by 3zilla on Dec 2, 2008 8:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought he looked at times like he was unsure of himself; it wasn’t really a “trigger” issue (though you could see that at times, as well) as much as he just looked like he was just slow on the uptake.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Dec 3, 2008 1:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think if PACMAN stays at 147 after the weigh-in he’s good to go. His last fight was at 135 but as you remember the night of the fight he was at 147 and still as quick as flash. Pacman is going to be all over DLH until DLH cannot have it anymore and cause him to be frustrated as mentioned by SC. Every which way I see it with his tremendous previous fights I really do not see DLH with his hand raised. I don’t want to say it is sucidal to acknowledge that, but after beating Vargas what other impressive win has DLH really had.

"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 2, 2008 10:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think people take for granted how good a chin Oscar really has. He isn’t going to be hurt by Manny. He will be bothered by speed for sure but is Manny that much quicker than Mayweather or a Shane Mosley? I don’t think so.

Manny has been rocked and hurt before in the lower weight classes, and the first round of the fight will basically reflect how the match will be won or lost. I know Mayorga doesn’t have the best chin in the world recently but he was down in the 1st round when he fought Oscar. Oscar will eventually land one or two shots and if he(Manny) gets wobbled I expect it to be a very short fight. Manny isn’t going to be a sitting duck like Mayorga, but in 12 rounds Oscar will manage to land several flush shots.

Manny must not get caught getting in an exchanges like he did with Marquez,Morales, and etc. He needs to pick his spots very carefully and use his speed to land potshots. It isn;t his style but I don’t think he has any chance if he fights the way he has fought vs Marquez or Diaz.

by Zocalo on Dec 3, 2008 2:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

is Manny that much quicker than Mayweather or a Shane Mosley? I don’t think so.

Not really, but he does throw more than Mayweather and the Oscar that fought Shane Mosley in 2000 or 2003 won’t be in the ring on Saturday, either.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Dec 3, 2008 2:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lights out

I like Manny.But i really don’t see Manny making it out of the fourth or fifth round.Oscar hasn’t aged that much.

Larry Smalling

by red-dog on Dec 5, 2008 6:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

long night

I agree that there is a chance Manny can win.But if Oscar boxes and uses his jab there’s no hope for Manny.If Manny frustrates him by getting inside and working the body its gonna be a long night for Oscars.But it all depends on the jab of Oscars.

by red-dog on Dec 6, 2008 7:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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