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Bad Left Hook Fight Day: Nikolai Valuev v. Evander Holyfield

Yeah, we're gonna be here. The show starts at 3pm ET, and I've got about as much interest in RBRing a Mads Larsen fight as I do putting thumbtacks in my genitals, so I'm not sure when we'll really start for the "main event." All coverage will be in the comments, and if you want to start talking mad trash, get that going any time you want.

This is ridiculous.

Step right up! Come one, come all!

SEE! The world's most GIANT BOXER!

And he will battle...THE ANCIENT RUINS OF HEAVYWEIGHT GLORIES PAST!

A spectacle for the ages...and the AGED! Ha ha ha!

15 cents, children.

Capt

NIKOLAI VALUEV
Ring Magazine No. 4 Heavyweight
WBA Titlist
  EVANDER HOLYFIELD
 
 
49-1 Record 42-9-2
34 KO 27
St. Petersburg, Russia Hometown Atlanta, GA
35 Age 46
7'0" Height 6'2 1/2"
John Ruiz (UD-12, MD-12)
Sergei Liakhovich (UD-12)
Monte Barrett (TKO-11)
Notable Wins Mike Tyson (DQ-3, TKO-11)
Riddick Bowe (MD-12)
George Foreman (UD-12)
Ruslan Chagaev (MD-12) Notable Losses Sultan Ibragimov (UD-12)
Larry Donald (UD-12)
James Toney (TKO-9)

This is the last round-by-round of the year here at Bad Left Hook, and we won't do another one until January 9, 2009. The future...

It's been a great year, and I've enjoyed the opportunity to do my best calling the fights for those that couldn't see this one or that one, and I always love conversing with everyone on fight night. It makes it that much more fun for me. Frankly, without you guys I'm not sure if I could've retained my sanity during the Oscar-Manny undercard or that Calzaghe-Jones sham pay-per-view. So thanks to everyone, and we'll do it again all year next year.

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Thanks to you, SC

Since discovering this site, I don’t have to worry about missing fights or taking a $50 plunge on shaky PPVs. The RBRs are the most enjoyable to read in the ‘net, and the comments are filled with good-natured humor that could carry anyone through the most boring scrap. I’m sure I’m not the only one that has learned a lot about boxing in here.

Here’s hoping BLH stays around for a long time to come.

by keyz on Dec 20, 2008 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

If Pianeta is on the live undercard

Let me know how he looks. Prty plz :-)

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

I'm hoping he is

That’s one I actually wanna see.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It's going to be a hairy of a fight.

Ah hem… Excuse me, It’s going to be a hell of a fight.

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 20, 2008 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for all the fight play by plays over the past year. It is been really enjoyable to become a part of the SBnation.

Anyways… I just hope that it is quick and to the point. Evander needs to be put down like Old Yeller, A quick KO. A fighter his age and diminishing abilities doesn’t need to take a sustained beating over 12 rounds.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Where are you watching this?

I see only TSN2, which isn’t available in the states.

Tim

by ttagaris on Dec 20, 2008 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

$25 PPV

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

dunno if it's on DirecTV

I’ve got digital cable — it’s an Integrated Sports PPV.

Quick Google search makes it appear DirecTV isn’t even offering the show.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's not

Just got off the phone with them. With this clash of heavyweights, I can’t imagine why not!

Looks like it’s on you to paint the picture. Looking forward to it.

Tim

by ttagaris on Dec 20, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Ummm

That clash of heavyweights thing was snark — I included a close-snark tag, but it didn’t show.

by ttagaris on Dec 20, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

my stunning pick

Valuev by wide decision

Shocking, I know.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

For the love of God… I want a 3rd round KO.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

so

OK, with no DirecTV availability, the fact that this starts at 3pm, and their lack of a commercial where Evander throws a dolphin, I have no choice but to assume this will do one buy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8ufwjo20Do

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

AND WE ARE LIVE

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Nick Charles and Al Bernstein on the mics

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

horrible looking video in the studio

I’m paying $25 for what looks like a good internet stream.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Can't find it either on TV or online

Without going to a site where I need to download malware to watch it. Not worth it…

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

try couche_tard_tv2 channel on justintv… I think it is german.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Thx - well there's Pianeta...

So I guess his fight isn’t on the US broadcast.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it packed at least?

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

the PPV hasn't even gone to the stadium yet

Just Nick and Al talking in the studio in the States where they’ll call the fight.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saw Abraham in the crowd.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

man fuck this

We’re joining the Pianeta fight in progress.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Francesco Pianeta vs Johann Duhaupas

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Well I am going to get some Chickfila… I will be back…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Bernstein doesn't even know who the fuck they are

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Pianeta wins

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

this is a dynamite presentation

Larsen-Cocco is next.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Woo

Good chance Larsen fights Bute next though

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Coco? serious that is his name?

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

Love the intro music…lol…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

fuck it, let's do it

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Do all Danes have arm tattoos like Kessler?

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Larsen-Cocco R1

10-rounder. This is seriously a good PPV stream quality video feed they’ve got. Horrible.

Larsen with a jab after they flail their arms around a bunch and hit nothing. Swatting right hook from Larsen, more of a slap than anything. Larsen missing shots, but Cocco waiting to counter and failing when he gets the chance. Larsen is flicking his jab but not really hitting it at all. There’s one that lands, and two that do not. Cocco misses a big right.

What a round. “High-octane,” says Nick. Fuck you, Nick.

Larsen 10-9

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Larsen-Cocco R2

This is a supreme mismatch and nothing more than yet another alleged tune-up fight for Mads Larsen, which most of his fights are. He’s 35 and his last five fights have been eight-rounders for God’s sake. Larsen is peppering away with zero trouble against this guy, which you’d probably expect when he’s fighting a 31-year old guy with 11 pro fights. Still, this is more competitive than every fight on the last PPV undercard.

“Brisk second round,” says Nick. Fuck you, Nick.

Larsen 10-9
Larsen 20-18

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

The only guy on his resume that I know of is Ottke.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Haussler ain't a bad fighter

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say he is world class as well.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

neither was Ottke

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Okkte gets some love from me for KO’ing Mundine.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah… Danilo Haussler. The guy who got creamed by Kessler.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Larsen-Cocco R3

This is a snoozer. It’s kind of like the Foreman-Moore fight from last weekend except Cocco isn’t as interested in throwing haymakers as Moore was early on.

“Entertaining to watch,” says Nick. Fuck you, Nick. Seriously, who are you convincing? I already paid.

Cocco does land a couple punches at the end of the round after switching lefty for the second time in the fight. But mostly this is just a yawnfest with Larsen popping him from the outside, or at least being the only guy throwing anything.

Larsen 10-9
Larsen 30-27

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

“Fast-moving,” says Nick. Jesus, Nick, stop it.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

Great Audio…lol.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

Haussler is the highest level?

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

he fought for a title this year

So by that token Holyfield is at the highest level still, too. And Alfonso Gomez is at the highest level.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Larsen-Cocco R4

I can’t get into this at all. It’s a club fighter against a middle-tier guy with no real ambition. It’s a complete waste of my time.

Larsen 10-9
Larsen 40-36

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

I am with you SC… It isn’t helping that Nick and company are just bsing some of the things.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Larsen-Cocco R5

Somebody throw a fuckin’ pie or something.

Cocco throws the longest, laziest, loopiest right ever and it almost lands. Nice left from Larsen. Combo from Larsen. Rest of the round is the same shit over and over. Cocco should go back to kickboxing.

Larsen 10-9
Larsen 50-45

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

Larsen-Cocco R6

Nick and Al are trying to sell me on Larsen being in the discussion at 168. As I watch him spar with Cocco, I struggle to place him in the top 20 at 168 pounds.

Larsen 10-9
Larsen 60-54

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

Not quite HBO quality replays…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

my God, Nick

“Mads Larsen, a guy I’d pay to see against the best again.”

ARE YOU HIGH?

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Larsen-Cocco R7

Left hand, Cocco goes down and they don’t call it. Fantastic. The ropes held him up, so they looked at his gloves and…did nothing. Outstanding.

Larsen is really on the attack now, starting to drill Cocco, and a left sends him into the ropes. The fight is stopped. Not a moment too soon.

Mads Larsen TKO-7

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

Good uppercut. Head got snapped back…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

very nice shot

Now Nick tells us that “the Italian was creeping back in, having his moments” — yes, one a round. What a fight, Nick. Shut up, Nick.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly believe a gatekeeper( Miranda) could KO Cocco within 3 rounds.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

it'd be over as soon as Miranda saw an opening for the big right

So anywhere from 20 seconds to the third round.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick: "It was enjoyable!"

YOU’RE ON CRACK

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

got some downtime as Nick fumbles over his lines

And now here’s some women’s boxing.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

40 year old woman fighting? I find that just wrong.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

I'm going to pass on this one

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

19-32-3 fighter on a PPV?

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

that's the record of her opponents until now

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t catch that… and I don’t want to go on boxrec to find out the record of the fighters

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

“Excellent match making”… Sure Nick… compared to the last pityful ppvs undercards.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:02 PM EST reply actions  

Here is a spoiler….

It goes 10 rounds….

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

so I saw

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

for the record

I certainly respect the women who box every bit as much as I do the men. I just don’t care.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

I only know two womens boxers, Ali and Moreno.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

ANN WOLFE, YO!

One of the nastiest KOs you’ll ever see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-hmcnlmrQ

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my goodness… that was just not right.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah… you can’t make the font smaller…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

I guess after the Womens fight…. They said the fight(Main Event) was an hour to go during the Lardsen fight.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

You’d seriously think this is Nick Charles’ first show ever and that he doesn’t know anything with the way he’s fumbling around today.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

well by God...

Here we go with the intros.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

Impressive intro…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

very cool stuff

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn… nice fireworks…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

live band playing Valuev to the ring

Doesn’t actually seem live to me, but still makes it seem big and important.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

what magnificent ridiculousness

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Al: "Interesting moment for boxing right now."

That’s one way to put it.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

Buffer is in the house… honestly… what an awesome big he has.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

time for the anthems

God, looking at Holyfield ponder as the Banner plays, I felt…I don’t know what I felt. Sadness? Pity? Hope that he walks out of here as best he can? Hope that he might win? I’m not sure what it was, but I definitely felt something.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

this honestly might be the biggest production I've ever seen for a boxing card

Sauerland truly went all out.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

I am with you SC… i don’t think this is going to end well like dead spin said…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

“This is all gonna end badly”… Banky Edwards from Chasing Amy….

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

ladies and gentlemen...

LLLLLLLET’S GET READY TO RUMBLEEEE

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

man, Holyfield turned pro 24 years ago

He turned pro when Valuev was 11, and Valuev is no spring chicken.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

also

I wonder if 11-year old Valuev was taller than Holyfield the adult.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my god… they are cheering for Holyfield.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

well it's Switzerland

Valuev isn’t fighting at home, and Evander is a boxing legend.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

crowd is VERY pro-Holyfield

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

I am surprised at that reaction…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

the crowd is really in to this.,..

-Brian

by bp on Dec 20, 2008 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

They are booing Valuev

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

here we go.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev still has a hairy back…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R1

Valuev throwing the jab, Evander tries to get inside early and makes it, but can’t do anything. Evander dancing around away from the jab’s length. Valuev catches him coming in. Holyfield is wandering around the ring, circling, trying to come in, and he lands a hook. Valuev with a combo but comes up mostly empty. Jab flicked out. Holy comes in again, Valuev goes to the body and basically shoves Holyfield away. Holyfield with an overhand right, and he wings a left haymaker that misses. Evander avoids the slow-fisted Valuev’s shots. Left hook by Holyfield as Valuev tries to make something happen.

Hey, well…first round went about as well as it could for Evander.

Holyfield 10-9

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev is so slow…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

zzzzzzz

what a slow round

-Brian

by bp on Dec 20, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

get used to it

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It isn’t exactly Marquez/Vazquez

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Has this even been worth it?

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 20, 2008 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

nah

But there was no hope it would be.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

justin.tv

free…not sure what language tho

-Brian

by bp on Dec 20, 2008 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow not even the undercards?

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 20, 2008 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

god no

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

well

The women’s fight was OK.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R2

Holyfield comes in and hugs, slips through Valuev’s arms and turns him around. It means nothing, but he made Valuev actually have to turn around for the restart. Valuev still looking for the jab, Evander still circling around the ring. There is even less action this round. Evander with the hook, clinching and hitting now. Valuev is going to actually have to HIT Holyfield at some point, I wonder if he knows that. Evander could, theoretically, circle for 12 rounds and rack up rounds like this. Holyfield with another hook. There’s no starch on them at all, but they do count. Shot to the body lands. Valuev is doing NOTHING.

Holyfield 10-9
Holyfield 20-18

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Well that was a bucket of suck for Valuev.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

It isn’t like Holyfield is Willie Pep… Valuev needs to let his hands go.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R3

Valuev backs him down with a long shot. He looks like he’s trying to hit Holy some when he comes in now. Valuev with a 1-2 that missesbut keeps Evander consistently hitting the reset button. I don’t know if Nick Charles has ever seen Valuev fight outside of the Monte Barrett highlight. Nick Charles’ stock is dropping like a rock today, in fact. He’s been awful. And now Nick is just insulting him.

Holyfield with a nice right as he bulls inside, and shit, that scores. He’s scoring here and there. In a fight this shitty, that matters. Valuev — and Nick is right about this — HAS to let his hands go. He’s giving rounds away by doing nothing.

They’re talking about this like they expected a good fight. It’s totally bizarre.

Valuev again just hands Holyfield a round on about three punches from Holyfield.

Holyfield 10-9
Holyfield 30-27

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

People are cheering…. I don’t know why. There has not been one meaningful punch landed in my opinion.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think Holyfield is capable of landing a meaningful punch on this guy.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

There is still time for this to be the worst fight of the year. Far too much time.

by Matt Miller on Dec 20, 2008 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

Well I turned off the Wald/Sultan fight… and I am a hardcore fight fan…

At least Valuev/Holyfield has the novelty factor.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the real surprise should be the ticket pricing...

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 20, 2008 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

I got it… Valuev is weight drained.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

Cutting to the lowest weight in his career is costing him.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R4

“Holyfield” chant goes up as he continues to move around the ring. Valuev just sticks his arm out there for his jabs. They’re not landing, there’s nothing on them, and then his follow-up rights are so slow and obvious that a goddamned snow man could get out of the way.

Valuev hits the jab to the chest, but then nothing with his right. Valuev with a jab, and Holyfield hits him twice, including one big left hook. Holyfield working inside now, and he’s got Valuev backed into the corner. Uppercut from Valuev. Most action of the fight. And that little burst probably steals another round for Evander since Valuev was winning it on the basis of one jab to the chest.

This is terrible, but it’s unique.

Holyfield 10-9
Holyfield 40-36

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Wow and its a packed Arena

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 20, 2008 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

it's a great crowd and a huge presentation

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R5

I really don’t have the words for this. It’s just a complete circus show.

Evander playing the stay-away game some more. Nothing has changed. Valuev throws perhaps the worst left hook I have ever seen. Holyfield with a right to the body, then Valuev steps away from Evander’s killer left hook instead of punching him in the head or something. Maybe he should go to the chokeslam.

Holyfield pins Valuev on the ropes with a left hook. This is…he’s going to win. He’s going to win this goddamned fight. Valuev might as well put a bow on this shit and wish Evander a Merry Christmas.

Valuev with a jab that sort of touches Holyfield’s face.

Totally and absoluely stupefying.

Holyfield 10-9
Holyfield 50-45

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t stop watching… am I sick?

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

hahaha

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 20, 2008 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like Valuev has to give Evander some hair power to win this

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 20, 2008 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

This can easily be confused with snuff

Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Dec 20, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

I am changing my pick for crowd of the year… It is the Swiss here. They are hanging in there with every punch.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R6

Al Bernstein rightfully compliments Tommy Brooks’ corner work.

Holyfield with two left hooks to the body. And then we go back to the circle (jerk). Valuev seems to pull off of an attempt at an uppercut. Valuev is just horrible tonight. Absolutely horrible. This is pathetic. Holyfield doesn’t look good at all and he’s winning this with no effort.

Again, someone throw a pie or something.

Nick: “It’s like Valuev doesn’t wanna fight. He doesn’t know how to fight.”

Valuev misses a combination, then goes back to flicking his jab. Evander rushes in and goes to the body again.

Holyfield 10-9
Holyfield 60-54

A clean sweep for six rounds on my card. I’m serious. This is just atrocious.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

LET YOUR HANDS GO DAMNIT.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

I never want to see Valuev again

He’s a nice guy, but he’s awful. If he can’t beat a washed-out, 46-year old Holyfield, he has no business in big fights.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

How can you not want to see him again…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Cute Swiss chick…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R7

Valuev throws two quick jabs and an uppercut. But they all miss. And also they’re quick on the Valuev Scale of speed. It’s sort of like being the fastest runner in a race between Kevin Millar and Jason Giambi.

Valuev short on his jabs some more. Evander moves around, stays away, does nothing. He’s waiting for his moment of the round where he lands a shot or two and puts another one in the bank. Valuev opens up with a combo, but it’s two counter rights from Holyfield that steal that exchange, and Valuev takes two steps back to pull up his trunks for the fifth time.

Valuev got more active but he still loses because it’s not nearly active enough, and he didn’t land anything.

Holyfield 10-9
Holyfield 70-63

So Valuev needs something special as far as I’m concerned. He looks frustrated with Holyfield’s tactics, but fuck that — what did he expect Evander to do?

Replays show Holyfield using his head as always. He did manage it.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R8

“Al, we all expected more.” Nick Charles is seriously doped up today.

Valuev with a right, and he’s finally throwing at Holyfield now. I’ll be damned. There he is again, jab, jab, right. Holyfield circling again. Valuev throwing, Holyfield throws back and again winds up being the guy backing the other man down. How is that even possible? Is Valuev a giant cookie?

Left hook Holyfield. Jab to the body by Valuev, and then a right up top glances. Jab lands again. Hey, Nikolai wins a round!

Valuev 10-9
Holyfield 79-73

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

That was funny

“I don’t speak Russian, Al, but this guy’s not telling him enough”

by ttagaris on Dec 20, 2008 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

The crowd is booing when the ref separates them…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R9

Valuev with a left hook catches a piece of Holyfield, who stumbles a bit on a slip. Valuev with a hook, and Evander fires back! What a nice combo from Holyfield in there. Valuev warned for something — shit, let them fight. That’s pretty much the reaction of Nick and Al, too.

And then it all quiets down again. Valuev with a right, Holyfield’s counter doesn’t get home. Jab from Valuev seems to affect Holyfield that time. He was caught with that one. Holyfield is looking like he’s tiring from all the circling.

Tough round to score.

Valuev 10-9
Holyfield 88-83

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

This is a dreadful fight….

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

Too many sleeping pills for Valuev…. good analysis.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R10

Nick is really crapping on Evander now, and the fight as a whole.

Holyfield throwing, then sneaking away. And Valuev looks totally reluctant to fight. I cannot really describe this properly. There’s action, but no action, and it’s interesting, but it’s totally not. Evander with a right, and a good one.

Nick: “They take drug tests after these fights, and they better, because Valuev looks like he took too many sleeping pills. He looks TERRIBLE.”

Nick Charles is actually kind of losing it, and I’m lovin’ it. Best part of the fight is now Nick Charles.

Valuev with a sloppy, soft combo in the corner, and again Holyfield fires back with a lot more on his punches, even though there’s nothing on his either.

Holyfield 10-9
Holyfield 98-92

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

What sucks is that Foremans history KO vs Moorer will be erased from the history books when Evander win this fight.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

kind of

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well in paper… in our minds everyone knows that Foreman’s feat is more impressive by far.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Sort of

Who did Moorer ever beat at heavyweight though. It’s not like his resume was that much better than Valuev’s. His only good win was over Holyfield, and that was the fight when he had a heart attack in the middle of the fight.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R11

I cannot believe we’re six minutes away from what is surely the 46-year old Evander Holyfield winning the WBA heavyweight title.

Valuev throwing a little, Holyfield covers up and throws back. Valuev hasn’t had one moment of momentum. Valuev paws some more, Holyfield rips at him and nothing really lands. Just a dead fight now. Holyfield’s tired, Valuev never wasn’t, and it’s just horrific. Yet another feather in the cap for the heavyweight division.

One of the worst rounds of the fight, as amazing is that is.

Holyfield 10-9
Holyfield 108-101

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Drago is disappointed in Valuev.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

The Valuev corner tells him he has to knock Holyfield out. Valuev just sits there like he doesn’t give a shit.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

I can't believe how fresh Holyfield's legs still look

He hasn’t shown this much stamina in years…

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

well he's barely been hit, too

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Valuev-Holyfield R12

Nick: “Just go for it, man.”

Holyfield charges and lands some big rights. Valuev takes them like he couldn’t care less about being in there. Holyfield leans back on the ropes, Valuev makes no effort to close the gap, and then Holyfield just escapes and gets back on his bicycle.

Amazing.

Valuev finally throws at him a bit with 30 seconds left, which looks more like he thinks he should be doing it than anything else. Evander throws and staggers around the ring.

I cannot believe what I just saw. And I say that as dry and emotionless as possible.

Valuev 10-9
Holyfield 117-111

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

lol

The crowd boos Valuev

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Still think this isn’t the worst fight of the year?

by Matt Miller on Dec 20, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

I'd still rather watch this again that Klitschko-Ibragimov

Those two had no excuse, and their fight was just as boring.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Heck, I'm not sure it's even the worst fight of the month

Oquendo-Toney was just as bad. We’ll see if the result of this one is just as bad.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Valuev raises his arms for no reason whatsoever

And he’s roundly booed. If he thinks he won this fight, he’s a complete moron.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

OMG… did this really happen?

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

I love the Swiss fans…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

Cheers everywhere…

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Unification for Evander and Wald/Vitali

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

Unfortunately

Probably. Evander really needs the money, and he’ll take a senseless beating. He might take a soft touch defense or two first though. Both Wlad and Vitali are locked up at the moment, unless Wlad pays Povetkin to step aside.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

VALUEV-HOLYFIELD OFFICIAL DECISION

“We have seen two sensational heavyweights in this ring, a round of applause…”

Are you daft, Buffer?

114-114
116-112
115-114

NIKOLAI VALUEV VIA MAJORITY DECISION

Oh. My. God.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

Bute/Andrade wasn't a robbery

Bute was up by 8, and under IBF rules, you just need to be on your feet at the end of the round.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Under a very questionable count...

Eh… I am very disappointed in the result in this fight. This is just as bad as the Santa Cruz/Casamajor scoring.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

He was up by 5 under the questionable count

He was up by 8 under my normal count.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Dec 20, 2008 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s it: worst fight of the year. Argue with me if you will, but this takes the shitty ass, nasty, turd of a cake.

by Matt Miller on Dec 20, 2008 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

I cannot believe this

This is horrible.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

Well, that

is about the worst boxing has to offer … from the introductions to the judges scorecards. The complete package.

by ttagaris on Dec 20, 2008 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

I don't have the words

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

Wow!!

I can’t believe this, boxing is such a joke

by Burt88 on Dec 20, 2008 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

Evander thinks he won

And goddamn it, he’s absolutely right. It wasn’t pretty, but the man won the fight. Nikolai Valuev was atrocious and has no business calling himself a “champion.”

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

"What was lacking tonight?"

“I don’t think anything was lacking.”

Preach it, Evander.

OK, I’m going to try to get the post-fight article up.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Dec 20, 2008 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

Everything about this fight was sad and wrong. Not only the worst fight of the year, but I could easily make a case, all things considered, that this was the worst fight I’ve ever seen.

by Matt Miller on Dec 20, 2008 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Pardon my lang….

But this was complete bullshit. It is fucking disgraceful what the judges did in Switzerland. It wasn’t a good fight for sure but at least give credit where credit is due. Valuev didn’t even show up to fight. Evander at least looked like he was interesting in fighting at his old age.

by Zocalo on Dec 20, 2008 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

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