De la Hoya-Pacquiao weigh-in LIVE on ESPN at 6pm ET
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on Dec 5, 2008 5:35 PM EST
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The weigh-in for tomorrow night's showdown between Oscar de la Hoya and Manny Pacquiao will be broadcast live on ESPNews and apparently on SportsCenter on ESPN at 6pm ET, so in about 40 minutes from now. We'll update this post with the weights if you're not near a TV at that time. It's the last bit of speculation left -- will Oscar make it in? (He will.) Where will Pacquiao weigh in? (I'm guessing 142, 143.)
Kieran Mulvaney weighed in -- if you will -- on rumors that Oscar is having trouble with weight:
De La Hoya looks pretty good to me. Some people have commented that they have heard he really isn't eating anything at this point, and that he's struggling to stay on 147. That wouldn't surprise me; it's normally the case with fighters and Oscar had a hard time making 150 for Forbes. I think he'll weigh in bang on 147 (I think the talk of him weighing 143 at times during camp is bogus) and he'll be somewhere around 155 or more on fight night.As for the penalties: I asked Eric Gomez of Golden Boy Promotions if there is any truth to the oft-reported notion that De La Hoya will have to pay a certain amount per pound above 147 that he weighs. Eric insists there is absolutely nothing in the contract to that effect.
UPDATE AND WEIGHTS:
Manny Pacquiao: 142 pounds
Oscar de la Hoya: 145 pounds
Juan Manuel Lopez: 122 pounds
Sergio Medina: 122 pounds
Victor Ortiz: 140 pounds
Jeff Resto: 140 pounds
Daniel Jacobs: 162 pounds
Victor Lares: 165 pounds
Is Oscar coming in two pounds light a bad thing? I don't know. Pacquiao is about where I expected he would be.
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Damn it!
I’m at work stuck with clients I was hoping they’d show it on 360.
Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Dec 5, 2008 5:35 PM EST
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its online
there’s a link right on the espn home page. george lopez in mc’ing and he’s cracking me up. he keeps saying “after this im gonna kick bob arum’s ass” lmao
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 5:58 PM EST
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watching on ESPN.com before it goes live on ESPN
Lopez and Buffer are busting chops. Arum’s taking it in stride.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:05 PM EST
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fighters on the stage
Mosley, B-Hop, Hatton…there’s probably more.
I think maybe this would be better if George Lopez wasn’t so attached to Oscar’s knob.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:06 PM EST
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talking to Hatton about fighting the winner
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:08 PM EST
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here we go
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:08 PM EST
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hatton
has the demanor of a man who knows this can only end good for him
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:09 PM EST
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Pacquiao and Oscar both on the stage now
Lots of love among all the fighters.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:10 PM EST
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kinda kills..
oscars bad blood over “the contract that wasn’t” argument huh?
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:10 PM EST
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no what kinda kills is the poor view ratio at full screen from the espn link
Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Dec 5, 2008 6:12 PM EST
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seriously, right?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:13 PM EST
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you'd think
this kinda thing would be made for fullscreen mode right?
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:13 PM EST
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jesus
ESPN is running a LOT of commercials, making these guys wait around.
Manny looks RIPPED.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:12 PM EST
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Teddy Atlas on ESPN again
He kinda half-crapped on the fight earlier on ESPNews.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:13 PM EST
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crapped on oscar
times like 10… and took manny in the fight
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:14 PM EST
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Manny coming onto the scales
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:14 PM EST
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espn
continuing their boxing coverage in good spots…
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:14 PM EST
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Pacman looks ripped I've never seen him like that
Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Dec 5, 2008 6:14 PM EST
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PACQUIAO: 142
Exactly what I expected.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:15 PM EST
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Oscar going up
He looks a little thin in the biceps, but whatever.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:15 PM EST
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OSCAR: 145
Wow, two under.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:15 PM EST
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the size difference
doesnt look so bad at the “Stare down”
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:16 PM EST
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they gave him hi tops
Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Dec 5, 2008 6:17 PM EST
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he was still noticeably looking up
The thing for me was looking at their arms when they were face-to-face. Pretty similar.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:18 PM EST
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i wish espn
would offer this kinda coverage on all the major boxing cards
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:18 PM EST
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yeah
I mean, what’s it hurt? Brian Kenny is a familiar guy, Teddy is good at being honest, and they’ve got a nice team. Hell, get Rafael on.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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rafel
is one of my favorite writers in the sport
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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He comes off like kind of a tool
in his chats at least, but I like that when I read him, I know I’m getting the most accurate information out there, and that when he’s reporting on it, it’s in an unbiased fashion.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on
Dec 5, 2008 6:20 PM EST
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he's the best resource there is
And his weekly chats are invaluable, I think. Most sportswriters don’t interact like that with fans — Dan takes it to a new level.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:21 PM EST
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Teddy might be good at being honest
But he’s horrible at picking winners. Picking Pacquiao basically seals the fight for DLH. I can’t remember the last time Teddy picked an underdog correctly.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on
Dec 5, 2008 6:20 PM EST
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FWIW
As a commentator, I actually like Teddy Atlas MUCH more than the guys on HBO. They can all die in a plane crash as far as I’m concerned. None of them provides any insight, Lamps is homeristic, Kellerman just says stuff to provoke people, Lennox is about as interesting to listen to as a lamp post, Steward doesn’t share any of his wisdom he’s gained in years as a trainer, Papa comes off like he doesn’t know enough about the sport and Merchant’s faux-drunkenness ceased to be amusing years ago.
/endrant
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on
Dec 5, 2008 6:24 PM EST
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I like Merchant, but Teddy is so much better than their entire team. So is Al Bernstein. I agree about Kellerman; I always liked him, but he’s trying too hard to be memorable every time out.
I still like Lampley because he calls a big fight like nobody else can, but as far as color commentators I’d rank them:
1. Teddy Atlas
2. Al Bernstein
3. Wally Matthews
4. Steve Farhood
5. Larry Merchant
6. Manny Steward (for his good moments)
7. Max Kellerman
412. Lennox Lewis
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:26 PM EST
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what I really mean about Kellerman
is that he acts like a dick. I guess I’ll just say that straight out. He’s a dick. He was a dick to Rocky Juarez when he fought, asking him why he still fights, and insisting that he looked like “an OLD 28” before he drilled Barrios’ mouth into a fucked up mass of blood and lip skin. He was a dick to Katsidis even though he was sort of right — he just pushed it a little too far. I keep waiting for one of these guys to tell him to screw off.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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lampley
has to be the guy for me. it is a shame though that teddy can’t get a job on hbo or showtime because he is as good as it gets. max hasnt interested me since he hosted pti and lennox’s contract has to be ending soon right?
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:31 PM EST
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I think Rafael said it, but not sure...
Roy Jones has expressed some interest in doing color commentary again. He was never the best speaker, but he was pretty good and really lively. I’d love to see him back, and I think that’s something he could do long-term if he wants to. Roy has been kind of annoying at certain points of his career, but I think he truly loves boxing.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:34 PM EST
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I'd put it
Top dogs, in no particular order:
Teddy Atlas
Al Bernstein
Roy Jones Jr
Quinito Henson
Steve Farhood
Glen Johnson is good in that he says important stuff, but he’s hard to understand with that thick Jamaican accent. He does MSG’s European fights. I thought Shannon Briggs did a decent job when he filled in for Atlas as well.
Never in a million years: Lennox, Steward, Foreman, Bunce
Vogt early, Vogt often.
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Dec 5, 2008 6:34 PM EST
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Foreman was horrible
Shannon Briggs was good, which I didn’t really expect, to be honest. But that’s probably just because I hate watching him fight most of the time. Chris Byrd isn’t bad, either.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:35 PM EST
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as for Wally Matthews
I think I’ll forever love him if because of nothing else than this wonderful exchange during Rahman-Sykes last year:
Nick Charles: “How do you have it, Wally?”
Wally: “I have it boring.”
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:36 PM EST
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atlas:
“overpaid oscar de la hoya”
hhahahahah hilarious
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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oscar playing mind games coming in at 145, just showing the weight isn’t an issue.
any heavier for manny and it would have counted against him. no point bulking up just for the sake of it.
by strike4A on
Dec 5, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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agreed on Manny
They said he’d be about 142 the whole time and he is. Mayweather did 150 when he fought Oscar at 154. He knew the extra weight wasn’t going to do anything but slow him down.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:20 PM EST
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fight weights
i reckon about 145 for manny and probably close to 154 for oscar
by strike4A on
Dec 5, 2008 6:22 PM EST
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I figure Manny comes in 147 or so, Oscar might just pop up even past 154. 145 seems odd to me, really.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:23 PM EST
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manny said
to george lopez that he’d gain anywhere from 5 to 8 pounds
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:25 PM EST
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Are they giving any of the other weigh ins?
Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Dec 5, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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Oscar de la Hoya 145 vs Manny Pacquiao 142
Juan Manuel Lopez 122 vs Sergo Medina 122
(WBO super bantamweight championship)
Victor Ortiz 140 vs Jeffrey Resto 140
Daniel Jacobs 162 vs Victor Lares 165
Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Dec 5, 2008 6:21 PM EST
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does anybody think..
that mannys chin is going to matter? do you really think oscar is going to have one punch power?
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:23 PM EST
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I think it'll matter
It’s not one punch power, but Oscar is going to hit him enough to hurt him at some point. That’s just my gut feeling.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:24 PM EST
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Of course it will
If Manny’s been hurt by Barrera, he can be hurt by a guy whose natural weight is 20 pounds heavier than the biggest guy he’s ever fought before. It’s not like Manny has gone out of his way to face bangers through his career.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on
Dec 5, 2008 6:26 PM EST
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Look at his record.Lots of kos.
Larry Smalling
by red-dog on
Dec 6, 2008 6:59 AM EST
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if its bad
do you think it will damage mannys career? seeing manny out on his feet, or hurt that bad, would be something i cant get over, as a fan
by thebitb on
Dec 5, 2008 6:26 PM EST
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it could, I guess
But I doubt it. Pacquiao will still be Pacquiao, and if Oscar knocks Manny out in the first round I’d still rather see Hatton-Pacquiao than Hatton-Oscar.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Dec 5, 2008 6:27 PM EST
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I am impressed that Oscar didn’t look like death when stepping on the scales…
I am glad that ESPN showed some boxing coverage on sportscenter…
by Zocalo on
Dec 5, 2008 6:42 PM EST
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manny
I just cant see Manny beating Oscar.I don’t see it even going out of the early rounds if Oscar comes out and performs like we all no he can.I like Manny.But not against Oscar.At least hes getting a big pay day.
Larry Smalling
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