Calzaghe picks Roy over Pavlik
Source: BBC Sport
Joe Calzaghe has dismissed the proposal of a fight against middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik, and is looking to go forward with a November date against Roy Jones, Jr.:
[T]he 36-year-old Calzaghe told the South Wales Argus: "A lot of people would love to see it.
"However, at this point, I think it's unlikely. I'm not sure if Pavlik really wants to face me at the moment."
Calzaghe, the world's best at super-middleweight and light-heavyweight, added: "He would have little to gain because I believe I would definitely beat him and, with respect to Gary Lockett, I would be a step-up too far for Pavlik."
However, after the victory over Lockett - his 30th career knockout in 34 victories - the 26-year-old Pavlik said: "Joe Calzaghe would be a great fight for me."
A showdown between power-puncher Pavlik and Calzaghe, boxing's longest-reigning world champion, would excite the sport's fans on both sides of the Atlantic.
"It would be a great fight for Joe," admitted Calzaghe's promoter Frank Warren. "But it's up to Joe, not Kelly Pavlik, whether the fight will happen."
It's quite unfortunate, though not totally unexpected, that we won't see Calzaghe-Pavlik this season, but the fight hasn't been outright shot down. It could happen in 2009.
What is slightly annoying is Calzaghe's choice of words about turning it down, as if he's doing it as a favor to Pavlik. Just say you'd rather fight Jones, a legend, right now, and wait on fighting Kelly. I also dislike his characterization of Pavlik's career as being not ready for a fight like Joe Calzaghe, as if Pavlik has fought only guys like Gary Lockett. It's not so much that Calzaghe would be a step up from Lockett, it's more that Lockett was such a massive step down for Pavlik.
This also brings up another issue, which is who Kelly Pavlik fights next. Top Rank has had a tentative plan for Pavlik to face Marco Antonio Rubio in September, but Arum is also not ruling out a fight against charismatic star and paper tiger Ricardo Mayorga, about whom Don King has called Arum.
A fight with Rubio, a puncher with an inflated record who would be another massive underdog against Pavlik, might be met with a certain amount of backlash. One stay-busy/mandatory fight is one thing, folks will forgive it. But you don't want to start painting Pavlik as a guy who's fighting weak opposition, whether that would be fair or not.
But let's be really fair to Rubio, Pavlik and Arum. No matter how you slice it, Rubio is no easier an opponent than Mayorga would be. It's just that Mayorga is famous and Rubio isn't. Mayorga would be chum, and Pavlik the great white shark.
The date being discussed for Calzaghe-Jones is November 15, and it would be presented by HBO on pay-per-view in the States. I think it promises to be an entertaining fight with a nice build-up and a final shot at major glory for Jones.
But it's no Calzaghe-Pavlik, that's for sure.
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“Mayorga would be chum, and Pavlik the great white shark.” I agree with that. But at this rate, Team Pavlik wants a “name” and, absent Joe, Mayorga is it. There’s no guarantee that Abraham will survive his Miranda bout. And if he falls, Pavlik will be in the unenviable position of having not only already beaten, but totally slaughtered his main unification option. It would be hard to convince anyone that a rematch would go any different.
Option #1 – Goad Mundine into a fight that the seven boxing fans in Australia will see.
Option #2 – Beat up on an exposed, post-St. Patty’s Day. John Duddy.
Option #3 – Cream Mayorga on a ticket co-promoted by King, meaning it has a chance of being seen.
I’m thinking door number three.
by jrok on Jun 13, 2008 11:36 PM EDT 0 recs
Pavlik the great white ghost...
For some reason [well aware of his character] I cannot see or visualize a tormented and excited Mayorga before a Press Conference for a Pavlik-Mayorga fight. Therefore, I would love to see this fight happen. And I am not a big Mayorga fan—I am no Mayorga fan at all, put it that way. To avoid a Lockett headliner, I would also go with that door.
Calzaghe to me seems to be picking words from one of Mayweather’s mouth scrapbooks with those comments. I don’t know if anyone esle feels the same, and why should they if it is my opinion, but after Taylor stunned and knocked Pavlik out and Pavlik came back and dethrone him I am not even sure who can stop him.
I aways tell the truth. Even when I lie.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Jun 14, 2008 10:02 AM EDT
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Winky
There are some young guys out there right now at 160 and 154 who I think could take him in a year or two, if he’s still fighting middleweight then. But of the two lefties, I think Winky poses a greater risk to Pavlik then Joe. Winky keeps swinging from overrated to underrated and back, but Winky fights the sort of fight that would sap a lot of Kelly Pavlik’s natural adavantages.
But then again, if WInky doesn’t knock him out, is there any way the judges would hand it too him on the scorecards? I can actually see Winky winning or drawing that fight, and having it robbed away to preserve future fights that people actually want to see.
by jrok on
Jun 14, 2008 11:43 AM EDT
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I don’t know he seems to have gotten himself in a bit of a lost cause situation. He’s been out for close to a year now. It’s possible though you never know. However, not to long ago there were speculations to see the two emerge in a fight and it seemed like the deal went handicapped and evaporated some way or another. Or rumors were just rumors, obviously. But that’s a good judgement decision if the Mayorga situation does not follow thru. That is if he decides to stop chasing the DLH dream.
I aways tell the truth. Even when I lie.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Jun 14, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
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I agree
Winky would give Pavlik problems because of his style.
But the fight itself wouldn’t be as entertaining as Calzaghe/Pavlik. That’s what most were hoping for.
With the sudden retirement of Floyd Joy, I think boxing needed some sort of “Super Fight” to close the year and I thought that would be it.
I don’t consider De La Hoya/Whomever he fights as a “Super Fight” by the way
by Option27 on
Jun 15, 2008 11:00 AM EDT
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I’m not really sure how much trouble Wink would give Pavlik anymore. Winky does not have the power to back Pavlik down, and Pavlik’s biggest strength is his constant pressure. And while Wright’s defense is still really good, he’s not the damn near artist he used to be. Pavlik is very active, very powerful, much younger than Wright, undoubtedly fresher. I think he’d wear Winky out and hurt him, but I’m not sure even Pavlik can knock out Winky Wright. I think he’d win a fairly wide decision.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on
Jun 15, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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I’ve never liked Calzaghe, and was praying that Hopkins would take care of him. Unfortunately, that didn’t work out. His comments about Pavlik were utter nonsense. I actually think Calzaghe is tailor-made for Pavlik, and that’s probably why Calzaghe is not eager to fight him.
By the way, I loved Lockett’s menacing scowl during the introductions before the fight with Pavlik. He looked very tough until the fight began!!
by JoeLaw on Jun 16, 2008 1:25 PM EDT 0 recs










