Calzaghe hypes "fight of his life" and retirement
Source: The Guardian
This is a good one:
"Pavlik's got the world at his feet at middleweight and will want to build his unbeaten record. Me and Roy Jones wouldn't just be a fight, it would be a spectacular event. It'll be the fight of my life. Fighting the greatest fighter of the 1990s would be the perfect way for me to finish off my career. But he'll be fighting the greatest fighter of the millennium."
It's as if he's inviting criticism.
I'm going to say this, and maybe it sounds diplomatic or even overly so, and maybe you'll disagree: I don't blame Joe Calzaghe for not fighting Kelly Pavlik, and I don't really see it as a ducking. Yes, I'd have loved for that fight to happen and think it could've been absolutely huge, and far bigger than Calzaghe-Jones will be.
Pavlik's a middleweight. Joe is a super middleweight or light heavyweight. Plus, Joe wants to stay on the senior circuit for a little while longer. Whatever. I can live with it. This isn't the first questionable decision Joe and Frank Warren have made over the years. It's nothing new.
He's also right in that Jones is the greatest fighter of the 1990s. I suppose someone would make a case for Joe as greatest fighter of the millennium. But the 1990s...come on, Joe. You're begging for this.
The 1990s ended nearly a decade ago. Roy Jones, Jr., was a great fighter. Was. Was, was, was, was, was, was, was. If anyone thinks Jones tagging an old, overweight Tito Trinidad was a real sign of a rebirth, they're probably stepping a little too far. A prime Jones would've smoked Calzaghe, and I think Calzaghe's a really good fighter. Prime versus prime, though, it's no contest. Jones was obscenely fast and very strong, and he had a sensational killer instinct. Nothing about Calzaghe's style would've deterred him.
Now, Calzaghe will be the heavy favorite, and when he gives Roy fits, don't be surprised. A lot of people are buying into something or other about Jones, as if this isn't still the same guy that was unimpressive beating Anthony Hanshaw, who recently got destroyed by Andre Dirrell. I just can't see Roy landing a whole lot of clean, powerful punches, and that's what he'll need to do.
Calzaghe also says this'll be the last fight of his career. Believe it when he's gone for five years.
In Kelly Pavlik news, he's being called out by Mikkel Kessler, and he's also had inquiries from Richard Schaefer regarding Bernard Hopkins.
Kessler? I like him as a fighter. A lot, in fact. I thought he fought wonderfully against Calzaghe and just didn't win. No shame in that, as has been said a thousand times. But the way they ducked out of a fight with Edison Miranda was shameful, and even though many of Kessler's fans want to place the blame strictly at the doorstep of Mogens Palle and his promotional team, I don't think you can do that.
Kessler also took a lot of guff, don't forget, for being a no-show in promotiong his fight with Calzaghe. It was bush league stuff, and then the Miranda situation was even worse. If you want to live under a rock and pretend Mikkel Kessler didn't flat-out bail on a fight with Miranda that Showtime was excited to have on American TV, then good for you, but the rest of us will go ahead and wait for him to prove himself. He's currently scheduled to face Dmitri Sartison this Saturday in Copenhagen, which is not a bad fight for him. And I'd love to see Pavlik-Kessler at some point, because I think that'd be a hell of a fight. But Kessler acting like he's got any real sway is a little laughable. His fight with Calzaghe did horrible numbers on HBO, he has no marketability in the States, and Pavlik is by far the bigger star of the two. It's not even close.
As far as Pavlik-Hopkins goes, I'd like to take a pass. Hopkins makes everyone look bad and I'd genuinely rather see Pavlik fight Marco Antonio Rubio than fight Hopkins, simply because I know for a fact that Pavlik-Rubio will be a more enjoyable fight to watch. Hopkins holding and complaining for 12 rounds and then claiming victory at the end no matter what doesn't sound thrilling to me. B-Hop's a Hall of Famer, but he's in his mid-40s and from all we've ever heard, has saved his money and is very, very comfortable financially. I'd love to see him at Canastota in five years. Which means he needs to retire right about now. Bottom line, it's just not that intriguing of a fight.
And I thought Hopkins didn't want to fight young guys, anyway? He gassed against Calzaghe. I think Kelly would just wear him out and win a decision because he's got a lot more in his tank than Bernard does. But with someone as cagey and smart as Hopkins, you never know.
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well the retirement talk is dumb
but from Calzaghe’s perspective, he can fight Jones now and Pavlik later. If he fights Pavlik now, it’s possible Jones won’t be a viable opponent by the time of his next fight.
So he gets two money fights instead of one, and I disagree that Calzaghe-Pavlik is a far bigger event than Calzaghe-Jones. I still think Jones sells.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 16, 2008 4:50 PM EDT 0 recs
Jones hasn’t sold in years. His fight with Tito sold because Trinidad is a massive star in the Puerto Rican community, and Latino markets are the most important in the sport as far as American TV/PPV numbers go. Calzaghe-Pavlik is way, way bigger than Calzaghe-Jones, because half the people that see the commercial are going to go, “Roy Jones is still fighting?” A friend of mine remarked in January that he heard “two old dudes” were fighting, meaning Jones-Tito.
I think it’s a good move by Joe, too, although I’m not sure how excited he’s ever going to be to fight Kelly Pavlik. This isn’t the first time he’s been questioned like this. Shit, it’s not the tenth. But I do like Joe. I think he’s a good dude and a hell of a fighter.
I hope you’re right that Jones sells still, though. If they can hype it right and make Calzaghe out to be a truly untouchable kind of fighter, and here’s Roy Jones trying to make magic happen again, this fight can sell. I’d love for it to be successful. I’d love for any fight to be super successful.
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by SC on
Jun 16, 2008 6:03 PM EDT
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"Roy Jones is still fighting?"
I said the same thing when I saw in the funny papers that Tito wanted him. And to be honest being a boxing fan for so damn long it took me a good 5 secs to figure out who Jones was again. That’s how bad it was. I think the only reason Jones can sell is because of King. However, unless they have a good matchup there’s is no way he’ll sell anything. They take the fight overseas, the fight is obviously going to sell because it will be filled with Calzaghe’s fellow country men. Look at the Hatton headliner not too long ago.
But if it’s here, think again. The only thing that will run through your mind is Bob Arum blaming W for the fight not selling well. A lot of people are just gonna be like, “Jones vs. Calzaghe live on HBO PPV. Who the hell is Joe Calzaghe?” Then their most usual answer will probably be, “Probably some Rusian. Old Jones battles some white dude great.” This goes the same with some casual boxing fans. It’s an interesting match up, but think about it what what exactly is Joe going to gain by defeating Jones? And if it is his last one, what kind of farewell is this? I don’t want to say it, but seems more like an asterisk than anything else. The real fight is not Kelly Pavlik. The real fight is finding the proper opponent. And the proper opponet is Kelly Pavlik. Calzaghe-Jones is a beer fight. Meaning, it is a fight that you begin to drink during the undercard and try to not to fall asleep before the headliner. Pavlik-Calzaghe is a goosbumps fight. You can’t wait for that damn main event to arrive to watch the outcome of a tremendous anticipated match-up. But what do we know; we are only fight fans. And according to them the real fight EVERYONE, I can’t stress EVERYONE enough, wants to see is Calzaghe-Jones. Maybe overseas, but here it won’t sell as well. I’ll be watching the fight with a few packs of Coronas, however, I can guarantee that I will probably get the results eaither from here or somewhere else online.
I aways tell the truth. Even when I lie.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on
Jun 16, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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hmmm
maybe I wasn’t thinking as much in PPV numbers, I don’t know those facts about what sells and what doesn’t.
My point more that in terms of the interest of the general sports fan, it could be seen as better to hear “Roy Jones is still fighting?” than “who’s Kelly Pavlik?”
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jun 16, 2008 10:52 PM EDT
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I know what you mean
But this is the chance to sell Pavlik again. Plus, SI has done some features on Pavlik. He’s getting there, and he’s exactly perfect as far as American mainstream goes. Let’s be really honest about this, too, and this is not meant to bother anyone in any way. But if you watch boxing, you know this is true.
He’s white. It’s unfortunate that that’s the way it is, because a great fighter is a great fighter is a great fighter IS A GREAT FIGHTER, but Great White Hopes sell. And beyond his skin - because fuck that jive - Kelly has the goods.
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by SC on
Jun 17, 2008 2:28 AM EDT
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well maybe I'm thinking more in terms of selling Calzaghe first
Calcaghe-Jones keeps Calzaghe’s name in the public eye. If he puts on a great performance (which many think he will, though I don’t think Jones is quite a corpse yet) it’ll boost his profile even more.
Pavlik can keep momentum fighting anyone…..and then a 2009 Pavlik-Calzaghe matchup is huge.
Or am I just greedy?
(like I said initially, if Calzaghe is saying this is his last fight then he should be fighting Pavlik)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on
Jun 17, 2008 9:51 AM EDT
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Roy is done
I believe Roy’s last fight where we was the main draw was his rematch with Tarver back in 2005. But it still wasn’t incredibly impressive from what I remember, and after two consectutive, violent knockouts, you almost gotta think a lot of people were tuning in because they thought it might have been his last fight, and to see if he would get knocked straight out of boxing.
Since then, he’s fought Hanshaw, Prince Whatsisname and a rusted, slow as a mummy Tito who clearly cannot carry his power up with him. And he still couldn’t stop him. Roy is really, truly finished as a fighter. It saddens me that Joe thinks this sort of fight will somehow shore up a career that was abandoned in the wilderness for almost nine years. Joe sold his prime to keep his “O.” If there was any time to go for broke and risk it all, it is now. Guys like Pavlik and Dawson are probably already too much for him now, and if their stars keep rising and he decides he wants them in 2009, he will get badly hurt by them.
by jrok on Jun 16, 2008 8:29 PM EDT 0 recs
I’m sick of Calzaghe. Ever since he beat Kessler he’s been drinking his own bathwater. When clowned Hopkins by pretending to… oh never mind, he totally lost me as a fan. Sure Hopkins was pretty disrespectful to him as well, but in the course of a razor-thin fight where he went life and death for 12 rounds with a senior citizen, hotdogging it seems pretty ridiculous.
I think he’s a good fighter but pound for pound? Give me a break. Fighter of the millenneum? The sheer delusion of that statement is laughable. Uh its only been 8 years, and no, you weren’t the best fighter in them. His 20+ defenses may get him in the HOF but his quality of opposition is still very weak (has he REALLY done enough? I mean Lacy and Kessler??? A quatrogenarian Hopkins 12 years out of his prime??).
If he ever fights Pavlik at super middle, he will start to regain my respect. I think he wants Jones because he thinks it will be an easy fight for him. I for one think a faded Jones just might be able to pull one more out of the fire against an overconfident “prime” slappy.
by blackpage on Jun 17, 2008 12:36 PM EDT 0 recs










