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Yeah, Oscar, it's "personal" -- we get it

Delahoya_medium Can I be honest with you guys? Of course I can.

I am sick to death of Oscar de la Hoya.

This isn't going to be your standard Oscar-bashing thing where someone tries to discredit his status as a shoo-in Hall of Famer or anything like that. I respect the hell out of Oscar as a fighter; he fought great opposition, and he usually lost. He could've fought mid-tier guys who were clearly overmatched and won, but he didn't go that route, at least not until this year when he offered up that sham fight against Steve Forbes as a "special gift" to all of his fans, live on HBO, with really terrible tickets for prices as low as still too much!

Oscar is saying that if he does fight Manny Pacquiao, that this will be PERSONAL. First of all, shut up. It will not. Remember on 24/7 when Oscar was trying to be a tough guy toward Mayweather. "You wanna talk trash?" Then he'd make his face and, like, punch a bag?

It was so laughably corny, so obviously fake, so freaking Land of Make Believe that I still can't get the image of it out of my head. It would've been bad acting on any given episode of WWE Raw.

It's always personal for Oscar. Everyone always insults his great name and his wonderful legacy and his status as a demi-God within our ranks. I believed it with Vargas. I believed it with Mayorga, who would test the patience of a saint. But Floyd? Not so much. And Manny? Come on.

Yeah, it's going to be personal, because Oscar and his briefcase full of cash didn't manage to get Manny on the Golden Boy roster, one of the downright shadiest moves of Oscar's pro career.

And going back to pro wrestling, Oscar has a habit of being very, very Hulk Hogan-ish. Hogan to this day will claim that he lifted Andre the Giant over his head in front of 93,000 at the Silverdome for WrestleMania III, and you can feel Hogan wanting to say he slammed him so hard that the earth literally opened up and Andre the Giant fell to the planet's core. If you have a clue of what I'm talking about, you are quite aware that the slam was impressive only because Andre was so big. Hogan certainly didn't get him up over his head.

Oscar says now that the Pacquiao/Roach "calling out" situation that's brewing reminds him of when Bernard Hopkins called him out. To quote de la Hoya: "I remember when Bernard Hopkins was challenging me, and at that time I was a welterweight and he was fighting as a light heavyweight."

Well, sure. Except Hopkins didn't fight as a light heavyweight until 2006, and had been campaigning at middleweight his entire career when Oscar fought him. What good does that lie do him?

It's not that I hate Oscar. Like I said, I've got a great amount of respect for him, and boxing owes him a LOT. Without Oscar, I don't know where the sport is today. He carried it through some very dark times. When the heavyweights crumbled, Oscar was still there doing major business, every fight. He's been a great asset for the sport.

But he's past it. I'll wish him a fond farewell should he actually retire (or whenever he really retires), but it'll also feel sort of past due. It's been a long time since Oscar was anything more than a special attraction fighter, which is really the route he's going to go for his final fight, be it against Pacquiao (the intrigue there is obvious), Sergio Mora (the battle of Los Angeles!), Tito Trinidad (to settle the score!) or Shane Mosley (good friends, better enemies!).

And this time, it'll be personal.

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You forget Scott

Pacman stole DLH’s Mr. Potatoehead. I’d be pissed too! I’d obviously make it personal!

"I'm sure he'll be watching. I'm sure he wants to see who will win the fight and how real fighters fight." -Antonio Margarito on Mayweather

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Jul 29, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...DUH!

Of course it’s not really personal. It’s called promotion, and it’s not something that DLH invented. It’s not even meant for diehard boxing fans, like you and probably all the people who read this blog. It’s meant for Joe Blow, the casual boxing fan who DLH will sucker into buying this PPV. Get over it. It’s not that big of a deal. I mean how many other boxers go into a press conference and start shoving each other? It seems like it happens all the damn time. Before you start listing fights where it didn’t happen, let me just say that I know there are plenty of examples where it hasn’t happened, but I could rattle off an equally large list of times where it has. I think the only people who really really hated each other were Barrera and Morales. I remember when Barrera punched him at the press conference. It was actually pretty funny. But I digress…..they gotta sell the fight man. Boxing just isn’t as popular as it used to be.

by erod on Jul 30, 2008 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Dude, I get promotion. But there are different ways to sell a fight. With de la Hoya in recent years it always starts as “Let’s make history! :)!” and then turns into “Oh, it’s PERSONAL. (mean face)” and then at the end of his fight he hugs the other dude. I’m piss bored with the guy. I couldn’t care less about why he does it (and I do get why he does it), I’m just personally sick of his fake ass acting. And I’m sick of the fake ass shoving matches at the fake ass press conferences with other dudes, too.

Promoters need to figure out some other way to “sell a fight.” I guarantee you there weren’t 20 people that ordered Hopkins-Wright that weren’t going to already. No one saw their pathetic, stupid shoving match and went, “Oh fuck I gotta see THAT!” Everyone realizes that the shoving matches are bullshit—because boxers have done the same tired ass song and dance routine for years now. Really they’re just being laughed at by most people. “Hey, they had another boxing press conference. Guess what? They got into a ‘fight.’”

It’s lame, it’s played out, and it’s a joke.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Jul 30, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one saw their pathetic, stupid shoving match and went, "Oh fuck I gotta see THAT!"

You’d be surprised man. People are stupid and gullible. Really, they are.

I hear you though. It doesn’t really bother me like you. I understand that with boxing declining in popularity recently, they are stooping to new lows to sell fights. It’s sad. Hopefully promoters will start focusing on building name recognition. We need another Oscar De La Hoya in the sport. Hell, we need a few of them. Maybe some free network TV boxing matches (some good ones, not shit ones) could help also.

by erod on Jul 30, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah any sort of exposure for a legit, good fight would be a huge step

HBO is seen by a lot of people, but not THAT many people compared to ESPN or any of the major networks. And PPV just totally limits the audience. I know the promoters and the fighters have to make their money, but the only people that even know about most fights (like 99.9% of them) are the people that already ARE boxing fans.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by Scott Christ on Jul 30, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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