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Stealing Iole: Episode 4

This is a blockbuster.

Francisco Lorenzo’s actions at the end of his fight at the Mandalay Bay Events Center with Humberto Soto on Saturday were cowardly, revolting and disgusting.

That means little, though, because he did the one thing he was required to do to claim the interim WBC super featherweight title:

He won.

And, because he won, he should have been presented with the green WBC belt as its champion.

He won by shamefully and terribly wrong disqualification that came at the whim of an increasingly poor referee hitting rock bottom. He did not win this fight in any meaningful way.

The WBC, though, opted to ignore the official verdict, however tainted it may be, and declared the title vacant.

Good. It's one of the few reasonable decisions the WBC has made in years.

Now, it’s easy to understand why the WBC wouldn’t want Lorenzo as its titleholder. The last four men to hold the belt – Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales, are all headed to the Hall of Fame. Previous WBC super featherweight champions like Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Julio Cesar Chavez are locks for the Hall, too. Champions such as Alexis Arguello and Azumah Nelson are already enshrined.

No. Absolutely no a thousand times every single day of the week and two thousand times on Sunday. The reason that Francisco Lorenzo doesn't deserve to hold a title belt owned by the WBC has nothing in the world to do with Pacquiao, Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Mayweather, Chavez, Arguello or Nelson. It has every single thing to do with an obvious acting job by Lorenzo and a terrible call by Cortez. This is a really, really stupid way to fill space in an article. There is nothing of value in this entire paragraph.

"Watch the tape," Soto said repeatedly. "The punch was already gone (when the referee jumped in)."

 

Unfortunately for Soto, that is not even close to being true. For whatever reason, Soto momentarily lost his self control, an action which cost him a significant victory.

Cortez, who was traveling and could not be reached for comment, ruled that Lorenzo was unable to continue. And so, according to the unified rules, that meant the referee’s only option was to disqualify Soto once Lorenzo was given five minutes to recover and was still unable to fight.

This cannot be said enough: there is a difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the rule. The NSAC is now firmly calling this a mistake by Cortez, and saying Joe understands it to be one. So what is the issue now? There is nobody on earth that thinks Lorenzo deserves that win on his record, that Soto deserves that loss, or that Lorenzo should simply be awarded what is essentially a meaningless interim title in the first place, which he didn't deserve to be fighting for in the first place. With all the BS that takes place over sanctioning body titles, this is one of the least offensive notable happenings. I don't get why you'd even bother arguing for Lorenzo. A rare case of justice being served, but don't worry, Francisco, Kevin Iole is on the case!

Lorenzo doesn’t deserve respect, praise or credit, but he does deserve one thing:

The title.

No, he doesn't.

"Are you out of your mind?" Arum bellowed. "Of course they shouldn’t have given him the belt. He didn’t win that fight and it would be a disgrace to give him the belt. It’s ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous, to say otherwise."

That about says it.

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I read this article earlier. I post it a bit on it I could not believe what I was reading. I was laughing through out the whole train ride on my way to work reading that crack. People were looking at me insane.

Even the headline doesn’t make any sense: “Who’s sorry now?”
Maybe is Kevin that’s sorry for even thinking of writing that.

I aways tell the truth. Even when I lie.

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Jul 3, 2008 2:27 PM EDT   0 recs

I disagree with everything Iole wrote in this article, except the main point he was trying to make: Lorenzo deserves the title.

The fight was for the title and he won. It really is that simple. If Soto is desperate for the WBC title, then fight a rematch. More likely, he doesn’t care.

What bothers me is this: this is a dangerous precedent that could affect the sport in the future. If the WBC is going to ignore the referee’s decision in this decision, what is going to stop them from doing it again? If a guy is DQ’d legitimately for a blatant foul, can the alphabet organization change the result? What if they decide they don’t like a judges decision? Could they opt to give a split decision loser the belt?

Yeah, Lorenzo is a bullshit champion. Much like Montell Griffin. Much like Eric Aiken.

But I’d rather give him the belt for a few months than give any new power to the corrupt ABC organizations.

by BabyBull1289 on Jul 3, 2008 3:58 PM EDT   0 recs

See, I think the sanctioning bodies are so corrupt that if they occasionally get something like this right - and I do think they’re right, as Lorenzo hammed his way into a win he did not deserve on a horrible call - then I can’t help but agree. There are worse things that happen all the time. One of them happens to be crap title challengers that are green-lighted, and Lorenzo already fit into that role anyway.

I don’t think the WBC or anyone else are cleansed of their sins thanks to this, but I do think they’ve got a fair point.

On a grander scale, I say to hell with the WBC and the WBA and the WBO and the IBF and the NABF and the IBO and everyone else.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 3, 2008 4:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don’t know if anyone recalls a draw by Camacho Jr. where the dicision was changed because the fight clearly looked like he lost or something like that I vaguely remember. But it is just to state that something was or some action was taking into consideration.

To say to hell with all the alphabets is not unjust, however, you have to think in terms of other fighters just like Lorenzo. They can respect the Ref.’s decision then you’ll probably see those fighters, “Hmm you know what, I am gonna say he did this. Then lay here like I am with some fake extravagant pain and maybe just maybe the other fighter gets DQ and I win.” Honestly I don’t think he deserves the title at all it is not because he is not championship material or nothing like that it is just simply he won it in a WWE cowardly fashion way. Where esle do you see this outside of WWE? Would you respect him as a fighter? I wouldn’t. I’d respect a lucrative Valuev-Ruiz II fight [I can’t believe I just stated that but] before I do Lorenzo.

I aways tell the truth. Even when I lie.

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Jul 3, 2008 10:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what sucks the most for me

is that I had a lot of respect for what Lorenzo was doing in that fight up until the doofy finish. He was overmatched, but damn he came to fight, and he was tough.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 3, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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