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PPV or bust: HBO going back-to-back in September?

79778-758722_mediumSource: Dan Rafael's must-read weekend notebook

Will HBO go back-to-back with Saturday pay-per-views in September? Dan Rafael says that even though the network isn't keen on the idea, that just might be the case.

With September 13 housing the Casamayor-Marquez showdown that almost nobody would really think to throw on pay-per-view, we're now looking at another 40-50 bones on our cable or satellite bills the following week, because Roy Jones, Jr., and Joe Calzaghe are insisting on fighting September 20th.

According to Rafael, the light heavyweights want to stay as far away from Hatton-Malignaggi as possible. That junior welterweight championship bout will take place on either November 15 or the following Saturday, with most reports being November 22. The Calzaghe-Jones organizers (Calzaghe and Jones, essentially) don't want to pile on to UK PPV buyers.

What about US PPV buyers? Back-to-back 50 dollar Saturdays? Give us a break.

The HBO feeling is that the shows are directed at different audiences. They're not. They're directed at the boxing audience. The Casa-JMM show will have a higher latino demographic buying, I'd guess, but who is the Calzaghe-Jones show aimed at in America? Jones' fans from way back? Most of them don't actively follow the sport anymore. Roy wasn't exactly pulling in big bucks for those PPVs with Prince Badi Ajamu and Anthony Hanshaw.

And I know this might sound like hatred if you don't read it correctly, so read it correctly. In the mind of most casual American fans -- that's the Roy Jones demographic, really -- Joe Calzaghe is a lot closer to Ajamu or Hanshaw than he is Felix Trinidad. Yes, Jones-Tito sold well. Those are two of the biggest stars of the 90s/early 2000s, carried by the insane Puerto Rican allegiance to Tito, the fact that it was Tito's comeback, and I really don't think Jones was higher than third on the totem pole of reasons that fight sold well.

Calzaghe is not a ratings-grabber in the States. Calzaghe-Kessler did awful ratings and Hopkins-Calzaghe generated buzz only among those of us that really cared in the first place -- though Hopkins has never been a great draw himself.

Can Calzaghe-Jones sell on PPV in the States? We'll see, but I get the feeling that everyone involved is going to come away disappointed on the business side.

There are shows I do not mind paying for. Pavlik-Taylor II was one of them, Pacquiao-Marquez II was one of them, Barrera-Marquez was one, Floyd-Hatton and Floyd-Oscar (even though not great fights, they were great events) were another couple, Cotto-Mosley was one, even Pacquiao-Barrera II, which wound up being a real letdown.

And while the "gotta buy it" PPV schedule this year has been pretty manageable for your budget (Jones-Tito, Pavlik-Taylor, Marquez-Pacquiao, Diaz-Pacquiao), we're now starting to see where it's all going.

Cotto-Margarito, Casamayor-Marquez, Calzaghe-Jones, Oscar's December fight, Pacquiao-Valero -- these fights are all coming. That's roughly $250. And that's assuming you don't pick up a Latin Fury card or anything, or that your PPV buck doesn't occasionally head over to a UFC card or even a WWE show.

So, yeah, I hate the decision. I also hate it because I wish there was some real thought put into whether or not a particular fight needs to be a PPV headliner, because I don't think either of these two fights really fit the bill. Of course, I'm one of the mooks that will dish out $100 in September to see these cards, so the joke's more on me than those that pick one, the other, or neihter.

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Must I say more.

VS had a huge headliner with little money with that Hatton fight. Then you have HBO with extreme amount of millions and making semi-hit fights. This all goes back to a post I posted about free PPV. I already know I wouldn’t mind catching Casamayor-Marquez [yes is does not belong on PPV] but look at it this way it sounds a lot much better than that lucrative Judah-Mosley event on PPV.

But Calzaghe? Hell no! I am about 80% positve that I won’t be paying for this. I’ll probably catch it somewhere else for free. In addition, is anyone aware that the PPV Boxing shows that we pay for here are given for free over seas? Some of these are given on Skysports, Setanta, etc. [not sure if those are free] but it just goes along to signify why the fuck must we cough up 50 bucks for some crap which has a 40% change of being good. Maybe even 30%. And 50 smack that’s beyond crazy. But who am I to suggest pricing? Honestly, what are we paying 50 bucks for a main event that might flop unless it has a decent undercard? Or listen to Jim Lampley throw racial slurs from time to time?

I aways tell the truth. Even when I lie.

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Jul 5, 2008 6:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Both the Calzaghe and Hatton fights coming up are UK PPV. Hatton-Paulie will be on regular HBO here, though.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 5, 2008 6:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just got work

PPV numbers for Pacman’s fight were horrible. I wonder how this is going take action with the up coming events.

Say goodnight to the bad guy.

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Jul 8, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

word* that is not work

Say goodnight to the bad guy.

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Jul 8, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

they will do nothing

But that’s not surprising. Nobody knew who the fuck David Diaz was, the undercard was weak, and a lot of the diehards probably just thought Pacquiao would kill him.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Jul 8, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Part of me is glad Casa is getting this PPV fight, and hopefully he’ll make some bank. The other part of me is not buying this fight because there’s no way this should not be on regular HBO.

by blackpage on Jul 7, 2008 12:55 PM EDT   0 recs

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