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Calzaghe continues making himself look bad

Joecalzaghe_802804_medium Remember when Joe Calzaghe said recently that he had offered Kelly Pavlik a fight after Calzaghe defeated Jeff Lacy?

And, see, I thought, "Wow, really? That's amazing that the super middleweight world champion would offer a title fight to a totally untested American middleweight that nobody had ever heard of."

Not that this would be totally out of wack for Joe Cool's career, the fighting competition that anyone would see and think, "Well that's not a very good opponent, is it?"

Plus, there's the fact that he's probably making that up entirely, and that it never happened. Pavlik says it never happened.

While hyping his upcoming fight with 39-year old Roy Jones, Jr., as "the real deal," Calzaghe took a moment to shoot some more B.S. toward Pavlik and crew.

"But let’s take nothing away from this fight. People talk about Kelly Pavlik, but who is he? In 10 years time nobody is going to care about him."

...

"Pavlik is an over-rated fighter, he can punch but he is one-dimensional."

Really nothing new, I know. But let's consider this deeper than just the words.

Remember when Pavlik won the middleweight championship from Jermain Taylor? Right about one year ago, Joe Calzaghe was all kinds of complimentary toward Pavlik, congratulating him on his win and inviting him to Cardiff as his guest for Calzaghe's fight with Mikkel Kessler. What's changed?

Calzaghe later goes on to say that Roy Jones has proven in his last three fights that he's back, and that "you're only as good as your last fight."

In Jones' last three fights, he's beaten Prince Badi Ajamu, Anthony Hanshaw and an old, washed-up, rusty, inflated, flabby Felix Trinidad. Ajamu and Hanshaw don't even get to enter that "10 years from now" argument -- they're more like 10 minutes from now no one will know who they are.

Pavlik has beaten Jermain Taylor in a slugfest, Jermain Taylor in a boxing match, and then he obliterated Gary Lockett to the degree that Calzaghe's father was forced to wave the white flag.

I get selling fights. I get the hype. What annoys me about these things is you can talk trash without making yourself look bad, can't you? Calzaghe struggles with this.

"He sucks, he's no good." So why did you supposedly want to fight him well before ANYONE knew who he was? Before Pavlik beat Miranda or Taylor or anyone except Fulgencio Zuniga, frankly, Calzaghe says he wanted to fight him. He wanted to fight a middleweight with no track record. What a man's man! What a champion!

Then he wanted to fight him a year ago when Pavlik won the middleweight championship, which came to nothing. Again, what a champion. What a credit to the sport.

Calzaghe does nothing but make himself look awful when he talks about Kelly Pavlik. Maybe he should stop, and focus on the Seniors Tour he's currently on. Then perhaps he can go back to talking about retiring, having accomplished all that is possible thanks to a handful of good wins, and I still consider Kessler the best victory of his career (not the biggest, which would be Hopkins, or the most important, which would be the genuinely overrated Jeff Lacy).

I try to like Joe because I think he's a super fighter, the best 168-pounder ever, and that he was too long not given enough credit by the American public and the American media. But he's kind of annoying. "Kind of" is an understatement lately.

He'll mop up the ancient Jones, retire, and come out of retirement to fight Pavlik. Then, win or lose, he'll go, "Ah, he was a tough opponent. He's a great fighter." He'll be great if Calzaghe decides to fight him. If Calzaghe doesn't, he won't be.

At this point, I hope for the fight and openly root for Kelly Pavlik to knock him out, which I'm not saying would be any easy task.

I guess my point is, do your hype RIGHT. Hype Jones on his last three fights. Maybe someone will buy into that. But don't include the far more impressive Kelly Pavlik and try to sell me on Prince Badi Ajamu over Jermain Taylor.

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I really been fed up with Joe. He is a fucking idiot bashing Pavlik. It is even more pathetic that he has nuthuggers and believe every word of his.

by Zocalo on Sep 22, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sloppy fists Sloppy fists Sloppy fists where are you...

I despise youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

"I beat him so bad, he ended up in the Hospital. And I am still pretty." -Cassius Clay

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Sep 22, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i've always hated this prick...

and these continous cheap shots at pavlik only validate my opinion.

by battle axe of doom on Sep 22, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

American Idiots

Joe will beat Pavlik if they fight like he has every other fighter he has fought or have you normally blinked american isiots forgot that !

by TONYEJ on Sep 24, 2008 2:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tremendous insight

You have failed to address anything said, which had nothing to do with me thinking Pavlik would beat Calzaghe, or discrediting Calzaghe’s skill. But I am happy that you like Joe Calzaghe! Good job.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Sep 24, 2008 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re Tremendous Insight

What was the whole point of your article ? You have made no particular point other than saying Joe has been two faced about is comments regarding Kelly Pavlik,when the only reason he has even got to comment on Kelly Pavlik is because he is continually having is name shoved in is face my american jounalists and fans! If that had not happened your article would be pointless so first of all address that issue !

by TONYEJ on Sep 24, 2008 6:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When Pavlik won the middleweight championship last year, Calzaghe expressly brought Pavlik up as a good fighter he’d want to face. He also comically says he wanted to fight Pavlik YEARS ago. There was also talk earlier this year that the camps were discussing a Pavlik-Calzaghe fight, which is a fight between two legitimate champions and thus very interesting. It’s also very interesting because they’re both good.

Don’t confuse legitimate interest as American journalists inventing Kelly Pavlik as a legitimate challenge or idea. Calzaghe himself has brought this up. Now all of a sudden Kelly Pavlik sucks. Forgive many in the world for wishing November 8 was Calzaghe-Pavlik instead of Calzaghe-Old Fart, or that October 18 was Calzaghe-Pavlik instead of Pavlik-Old Fart.

So Calzaghe wanted to fight Pavlik, but also didn’t. Because Pavlik is overrated? But he was an acceptable challenger post-Lacy. And he would have been a good fight a year ago.

I guess if you want my point, it’s that Calzaghe is particularly full of shit in this situation. Also don’t confuse that with me thinking Joe is anything less than a world-class fighter.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Sep 24, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

It does seem like Scott, like many Americans, is holding Calzaghe to a higher standard of conduct than many American shit-talkers. I’m thinking of all the things PBF said that we all ignored because, well, boxers will talk shit, especially ones who are undefeated and near the top of everyone’s P4P list.

But then again, I’m a James Toney fan. I have a high tolerance for utter bullshit.

by Matt Miller on Sep 24, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hold Calzaghe to a slightly higher standard, perhaps, because he’s one of the best. I demand more from my five-star hotel employees than I do my Wal-Mart greeters, I guess.

Mayweather had plenty of moments where he was full of shit, too. Mayweather also had a habit of being funny, as does Toney. I think that probably helps the medicine go down.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Sep 24, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true that

I’ve never found PBF very funny, but you’re certainly right about Toney’s sense of humor excusing a lot of his bullshit. Listening to him shit-talk his own sparring partners prior to the first Rahman fight was some of the funniest shit I’ve heard in boxing.

by Matt Miller on Sep 24, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

let me add this

I would have the same reaction if this was Pavlik saying similar things about Calzaghe.

"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum

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by SC on Sep 24, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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