Hatton-Pacquiao runs into trouble; enter "Money"?

by SC on Jan 12, 2009 10:09 PM EST in News Comment 18 comments

The proposed May 2 megafight between junior welterweight champion Ricky Hatton and pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao may be running into a money problem. Hey, who said "Money"?

While the Pacquiao side says they will not accept a 50-50 purse split, the Hatton side is adamant that they will not budge from a 50-50 purse split, and that, my friends, could cause real problems.

One thing to learn from this situation is to always remember -- and I mean ALWAYS remember -- that all fighters, even the admirable action stars like Manny Pacquiao, are out for the most money, and they will be greedy if they feel they're right. I can't class Pacquiao wanting a 60-40 split with Hatton as anything less than greed, either. At 50-50 he's still making a huge amount of money, no doubt the second-biggest payday of his career behind the Oscar fight, and a role in what has a great shot at being the biggest fight of 2009.

I can't help but side with the Hatton folks on this one. Ricky's a big gate star and I think will draw a solid percentage of the PPV revenue not just overseas in Europe, but here in the States, as well. Hatton is a global phenomenon, just like Pacquiao. They have their home bases, of course, and will never lose that, but they're both accepted and beloved pretty much around the world.

With the purse debate ongoing, guess whose name is popping up as an alternative on both sides? "Money" himself, the "Pretty Boy," the "retired" pound-for-pound top dog, Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

Pacquiao's side has mentioned him. So has Hatton's. There's rumor going around that Floyd could use the money.

What's funny about this, to me, is NEITHER OF THEM will get a 50-50 split from Mayweather, and I don't think a Mayweather-Hatton rematch does Hatton-Pacquiao business, and I also don't know that Mayweather-Pacquiao does a whole lot more than Hatton-Pacquiao would. If they're looking to Mayweather as their out, they'd both lose money.

Must be nice to be Floyd.

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There is the thing… Hatton has only one PPV to his resume, Manny on the otherhand has had ten back to back PPVs to his resume.

Manny is the attraction here in the states, and Hatton isn’t. Hatton was on Vs two fights ago and now he wants 50/50 with the P4P best fighter in the world for just his 2nd PPV?

I see no reason why Hatton deserves more money/equal than Manny given that the fight is in the States.

by Zocalo on Jan 13, 2009 1:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

i agree

i also disagree with sc, i think a manny-floyd fight would be bigger than manny-hatton. hatton got on ppv BECAUSE of floyd and after and before that was never a ppv attraction. manny proved he could do 300,000 buys with an opponent that isn’t even mainstream with the diaz fight he deserves AT LEAST 60/40 and it isnt greed its the business. hes boxing’s new star with the win over oscar in front of 1 million plus people, give him the money.

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by thebitb on Jan 13, 2009 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Manny-Floyd is bigger than Manny-Hatton. I said I don’t think it would be so much bigger that the money Manny makes from a, what, 60-40 Mayweather split (at best) is going to equal a 50-50 split with Hatton. A fight with Floyd results in either Hatton or Manny making less money than they would to go 50-50 with each other.

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by SC on Jan 13, 2009 2:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ok

that makes sense, sorry i read wrong, and thanks for clearing it up for me. but i still feel manny is deserving of at least a 60/40 split with hatton.

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 13, 2009 5:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Facts?!

There is the thing… Hatton has only one PPV to his resume, Manny on the otherhand has had ten back to back PPVs to his resume.

I’d get your facts straight if I were you, in the UK Hatton has been PPV since the Tsyzu fight (if not earlier) so that would be:

Kosta Tszyu
Carlos Maussa
Luis Collazo
Juan Urango
Jose Luis Castillo
Floyd Mayweather
Juan Lazcano
Paul Malignaggi

Remember, the same works backwards – that was Mayweather’s first PPV in the UK, and to my knowledge Pacman’s had one here too – and that was only due to De la Hoya.

by bazzlad on Jan 13, 2009 3:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Last I remember… I don’t live in the UK. Hatton has been in only one PPV in the states.

I feel sorry for you guys that you actually have to pay to see a Urango fight.

by Zocalo on Jan 13, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

WHAT!!!!

one PPV?? dont be dellusional, all 5 of his fights in the usa have been PPV sellouts!! he brings a army of fans in every fight. everyone knows it, even a tight cunt like like arum admits this so shut your mouth if you dont know what you talkin about. If anyone deserves the lower cut its manny. most of the money will be coming in from UK PPV & GATES (HATTON FANS). SHUT YOUR PIE-HOLE!

by aza on Jan 13, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Aw… someone it butthurt?

Manny is the attraction here in the states, and Hatton isn’t.

Perhaps you should actually think about what you say, before replying to me.

I hate nuthuggers.

by Zocalo on Jan 13, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

WHAT!!!!

one PPV?? dont be dellusional, all 5 of his fights in the usa have been PPV sellouts!! he brings a army of fans in every fight. everyone knows it, even a tight cunt like like arum admits this so shut your mouth if you dont know what you talkin about. If anyone deserves the lower cut its manny. most of the money will be coming in from UK PPV & GATES (HATTON FANS). SHUT YOUR PIE-HOLE!

by aza on Jan 13, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Correction… not back to back… but ten PPVs by my count.

by Zocalo on Jan 13, 2009 1:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

hatton would have his share in PPV in his hometown as manny would earn from the tv right in the phil.

but in the US, it should be 60-40 pac

by asero on Jan 13, 2009 1:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Exactly…

by Zocalo on Jan 13, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hatton - Pacquiao

I hope they are able to work something out. I’m with the crowd that thinks Pac deserves the bigger split assuming the US market brings in more money than the UK market on PPV buys. Manny is the bigger draw here obviously.

-Brian

by bp on Jan 13, 2009 7:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Never count your chickens till they hatched

I had a feeling that problems would occur getting these two together. I just got a gut feeling we will see Pacman-Mayweather instead of Pacman-Hatton. Hope they find some agreement.

Manny-Floyd is the bigger fight /Manny-Ricky the better fight. I know what i want to see.

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by dinkman on Jan 13, 2009 7:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

This is annoying

Someone needs to talk some sense into Manny. Hatton is probably the bigger draw (once you take international box office into account) AND is the beltholder in this case. I know Manny’s a big draw himself, but I think Hatton offering a 50/50 split was magnanimous on his part, and I could easily see it if it was his camp insisting on a 60/40 split. The problem is that Manny at least has the illusion of having other big fights available, while Hatton really doesn’t have any big name fights left outside of Pacquiao. Pac’s camp has been in this situation before, and last time it happened, JMM was left fighting Chris John for peanuts. That won’t happen here, but unless Floyd throws his hat into the ring QUICKLY, this fight makes too much sense for Hatton to not back off and take 45/55.

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by Brickhaus on Jan 13, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think the fight will still happen.

Can’t imagine Mayweather will want to go straight into a fight with Manny after so long out. He will need a tune-up fight beforehand. This should play into Hatton’s hands. Even with the credit crunch I can see 30,000+ travelling over from England for it.

by strike4A on Jan 13, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs