Hatton threatening to bail on Pacquiao fight
by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2009 10:00 AM EST
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If Manny Pacquiao thinks there's a better deal for him than a 50-50 split with Ricky Hatton, the Hatton camp might be ready to let him find it.
From the Guardian:
While Bob Arum is in the Philippines, attempting to persuade Manny Pacquiao to sign for a 2 May fight against Ricky Hatton in Las Vegas, Hatton's manager and father, Ray, has said his team are ready to scrap the contest if agreement is not reached early next week.Arum, 77, had agreed a 50–50 split on purse revenue for the contest with Hatton's promoter, Golden Boy, but the deal has been thrown into doubt by Pacquiao changing his demand to 60%.
"We have the offer of another massive fight in the summer, in the British Isles, which would bring a crowd of 80,000 or more," said Ray Hatton. "We are extremely serious in our threat that we will pull the plug on Pacquiao and go for that alternative if that contract is not signed. We will not be messed around."
The 80,000 or more mystery man? It's one of two guys. It's either Floyd Mayweather, who probably wouldn't travel to the U.K. to fight Hatton, or it's Oscar de la Hoya, who would.
If it's Oscar, that means Mayweather -- who is going to come back this year and fight, let's get real -- will be open for Pacquiao right away. What's Manny getting there? 60-40 Mayweather at best?
Bob Arum kind of bent over backward and brilliantly negotiated a nice cut of U.K. revenue for Pacquiao, and now Manny is screwing around with dumb demands. Even Freddie Roach is quoted as on board with 50-50:
"I hope the fight happens, and I think 50–50 is a good deal," he said. "I agree with it because Hatton brings a lot of people from the UK, so I hope I can get Manny on board."
There is no reason this fight won't happen except greed from the Pacquiao people. It's as simple as that. I love Manny, too, but he doesn't get a pass for a situation that a lot of other fighters would get slammed over.
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It doesn't need to be Hoya
Hatton sold out a 50,000 seat stadium fighting Juan Lazcano, he can probably sell out an 80,000 seat stadium fighting Junior Witter or some other JWW on the outer fringes of the top 10.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
So bounce bitch
You’re not the only name at 140!
But here’s an update though:
Pacquiao-Hatton Update!
The Manny Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton fight has been saved by promoter Bob Arum after a disagreement over the purse split put the proposed May 2 bout in jeopardy. "There was a lot of confusion about why we did 50-50 but everyone now understands why this is a good deal," Arum told the Manchester Evening News. "This thing is going to happen. Earlier in the week it was in disarray, now everything is back in order."
January 16th, 2009
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Watching Manny Pacquiao fight live--great...
Watching Manny Pacquiao shadow boxing on the roof of an abandoned building--priceless
that was two days ago
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by Scott Christ on Jan 16, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
good for ricky
but its best for both of them that they fight. even though i dont feel ricky deserves a 50/50 split i like the fact that he’s looking to call mannys bluff and go and make money elsewhere. ricky, like manny, is a super ultra mega star in his own country so there will always be money to be made for him over there. if manny doesnt budge and has to give in to whatever demands floyd makes he is just in a lose lose. manny would figure to be the underdog in a fight against floyd and have to take a (if he’s lucky) 60/40 purse split. on the other hand hed make good money and be the favorite (in my mind) against ricky and still be able to move on to floyd after that, because honestly floyd isnt going anywhere. floyd is just gonna sit and wait for his fight and big pay day because manny and ricky are the only 2 opponents out there for him. Take this money manny and go get the money from floyd after.
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
the 50-50 thing
For the record, I don’t see how anyone thinks Hatton is “undeserving” of a 50-50 split.
1. Hatton is the champion in this fight, not Pacquiao.
2. Hatton is worth a lot more money when all is said and done. A lot more. US PPV money, US gate money, UK PPV money. Hatton is responsible for all three. Pacquiao has part of the US PPV/gate money, too, but that UK PPV money is substantial.
3. I dare say Pacquiao is at best only slightly more popular in the States than Hatton, and that he’s really no bigger of a star than Ricky is.
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
Popularity
i think thats where the difference is with this argument. especially coming off of a big fight that ended up being basically a showcase for him, manny is as popular as ever right now. The popularity of ricky is debatable, as someone pointed out in the comments of an earlier post hatton is coming off of a vs fight and hbo bout. manny is on a string of ppvs and ricky has only done major numbers for a fight with floyd, and you have to believe that was mostly floyd. I understand that ricky is popular, but i think that manny is obviously the bigger star in boxing right now.
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Jan 18, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yet Pacquiao doesn’t actually generate more money for the fight.
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by Scott Christ on Jan 19, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
also
Pacquiao has only done huge numbers with Oscar, which is attributable to Oscar. Even considering Manny having strong PPVs before, particularly the rematch with Marquez, he was nowhere near a mainstream star before the Oscar fight. I think people are either underestimating the huge stardom of Hatton worldwide (in places that generate PPV revenue) or overestimating just how big of a star Pacquiao is because to all of us, he’s a huge star.
"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."
by Scott Christ on Jan 19, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
well put
especially the last sentence.
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
by Eddie Gonzalez on Jan 19, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
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