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Bad Left Hook Fight Night: Andre Berto v. Luis Collazo

Round-by-round coverage and scoring of Berto-Collazo starts at 9:45, and the fight is televised on HBO. Join us tonight for the first "big" fight of 2009, and one that looks to be pretty interesting on paper.

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ANDRE BERTO
Ring Magazine No. 9 Welterweight
WBC Titleholder
  LUIS COLLAZO
 
 
23-0 Record 29-3-1
19 KO 14
Miami, FL Hometown Brooklyn, NY
25 Age 27
5'8 1/2" Height 5'9"
Steve Forbes (UD-12)
Miki Rodriguez (TKO-7)
David Estrada (TKO-11)
Notable Wins Miguel Angel Gonzalez (TKO-8)
Jose Antonio Rivera (SD-12)
Notable Losses Shane Mosley (UD-12)
Ricky Hatton (UD-12)
Edwin Cassiani (TKO-3)

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Berto UD, but Collazo makes him work

I’ll say that if Berto runs Collazo over — which I can see happening — it’s time for him to challenge an elite welter.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ready for the fight

just got done watching The Verdict on demand (great movie if u haven’t seen it)…now ready for some boxing. I think Berto wins but I hardly have a lot of faith in him…he’s hasn’t overly impressed me anytime I’ve seen him fight.

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nope

This was supposed to have Martinez-Greene but we all know about that one.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and we're live in Biloxi

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Max drilling the alphabet belts

That’s the way, Max.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Williams!

i want to see him fight Margarito again

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

most of us do

It was a good fight that could have easily gone the other way with a slightly different Margarito. Or maybe it couldn’t have. Who knows? Let’s see it again. (We won’t.)

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Williams-Margarito Again

I don’t think that’s happening anytime soon.

by JasonTryp on Jan 17, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shame though, I’d like to see Toni get his own back there…

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Williams - Wright

so after he beats Winky who’s next for Williams?

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

whoever will fight him

I’d kinda like to see him fight Arthur Abraham.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Winky will not roll over for Williams. I wouldn’t "Wright" this fight off. (Sorry, couldn’t resist.)

by Matt Miller on Jan 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he won't roll over

but he’s gotta be rusty and Williams is really talented and busy

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Two years off is not good in any way.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Next

Perhaps Paklik.

by JasonTryp on Jan 17, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that would be interesting

I think Pavlik would have a hard time with him

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pavlik might fight Felix Sturm this summer. I think the Pavlik people are going to be careful who they match him with this year.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pavlik, sorry.

by JasonTryp on Jan 17, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

K. Cintron

I’m hoping Kermit Cintron, who is one of my favorites, beats Martinez next month, the next whoops Alfredo Angulo if Angulo gets by Mayorga.

by JasonTryp on Jan 17, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Angulo

I don’t think he’s ready for someone like Williams…probably not Cintron either

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think this will be a better fight than most seem to think it will be. Remember the Collazo who fought Hatton?

by Matt Miller on Jan 17, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just had some weird posting problems

So someone reply to this so I know I’m showing up.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

sweet, thanks

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

INCLUDING the 12th and final round!

BOB!!!

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lennox what

“They usually have weight PRAH-OOH-BLEMS…”

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

look at Berto hitting Miki Rodriguez while he's down

Miki Rodriguez should be WBC welterweight champ

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol

you never actually mean that…. :)

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RULES ARE RULES

I’m firm but I’m fair.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

is that a response to the link I emailed you about an hour ago??

:)

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm firm but I'm fair!!

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so you got the email??

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

In short, dirty boxing is part of boxing. I think if a referee gets on it, you have to respect his decision to do that (Mayweather-Hatton). But if he doesn’t, live with it.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair shout

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

another note

I’m really psyched that a dude from Brooklyn didn’t come out to “Hello, Brooklyn.”

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto

needs a nickname doesn’t he?

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

here we go

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good round

That berto flurry was 1/2 hit and 1/2 air…great handspeed regardless

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R1

I do worry that Collazo hasn’t fought anyone worth a damn since the Mosley loss two years ago…

Berto showing his hand speed quickly, with Collazo keeping his right hand high. Right to the body by Berto. Collazo is negating Berto’s jab, hoping to make him work off of something else. Berto with a sharp right to the head. LEFT HAND COLLAZO STAGGERS BERTO! Berto ties up and survives. Totally off balance there. Nice shot by Collazo, who’s pressing the action now! Berto is holding onto Collazo’s arms.

Right hand Berto. He doesn’t look hurt. Berto hugs the shit out of Collazo. Berto warned for holding. Maybe he’s more hurt than his face lets on. Big right Berto! And now he’s unloading on Collazo on the ropes, tagging him with combination shots! Well we’ve got a fight.

Collazo with a left, and now he’s walking Berto down for a moment. Collazo tries to take some easy shots during every clinch. Fun first round.

Bob Papa erroneously says that Berto “got dropped.” This first round looked like a higher-skilled version of the Gamboa fight last week.

Berto 10-9, close round

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

green gloves vs yellow gloves

my eyes hurt

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i like it

corn

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

green and gold

My high school colors. We were the Comets. Our HS was once featured in Playboy because our old logo looked like a giant, angry sperm.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R2

Lederman gave the first to Collazo.

They’re both pawing with their lead hands, like a couple of cats sparring. Collazo’s combo looks slow in comparison to Berto’s stuff, but he does land a body left. Collazo with a slick little left to the chin. Berto exhibits his speed again with another combo.

Berto drills Collazo with a left hook at the end of a combo. Collazo is doing a good job defensively, but shots like that are going to find their way in, period. Berto’s just too fast to block everything he does. Another nice couple of shots from Berto, a right and a left. Berto with another right, and he looks to add on. Collazo maybe caught off balance a bit right near the bell. Definitely a Berto round, but Collazo is making him earn it. He’s not GIVING him anything.

Berto 10-9
Berto 20-18

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Collazo

good work on the inside and he’s getting in some body shots. If he’s got the chin he could upset

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R3

Collazo comes out throwing, but Berto defends it all and fires back. Collazo with a couple of stiff shots. Berto might have gotten a little hurt there, too. Berto warned again for holding.

Berto with shots to the body, and now they’re digging in close. Berto and Collazo are both throwing shots with intent. They’re THROWING NOW! The crowd is alive as these two are letting it fly on the ropes! Collazo is really pressing the hell out of Berto. Collazo throwing inside, Berto mixing up with him.

Collazo is throwing great shots to the body and this is really something to behold. Berto is very much a Mosley — he’s so eager to brawl if it starts popping off.

Berto throwing, Collazo throwing almost on his heels. These two came to fight. Collazo is sort of pulling a Nate Campbell against Juan Diaz in there. He’s giving this young man a FIGHT. Collazo eats a right hand after a left of his own, and makes a face to tell Berto to bring it on.

Gents, I am loving this one.

Collazo 10-9, great round for him
Berto 29-28

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

loving it too

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

welterweight division

Best in boxing?

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it's either 147 or 135

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i think

this is the night where berto can TRULY earn his title

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What a round…. :D

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lennox

good advice there

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what!

weak

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

he was warned twice

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

fair call

after the warnings

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

still...

so much holding in boxing in so many other fights…seems odd to see it

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

odd, maybe

But it should be done more often. Maybe then guys would stop holding.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea

understandable, but i guess the ref is drawing that line tonight. berto has to understand thats how the ref is calling it

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R4

Collazo throwing again, and I’ll tell you, Berto is having his mettle tested. Very much so. Collazo is putting some fear into him, walking him down, and making him fight where he doesn’t want to. Berto isn’t doing badly. His speed is obvious, but I think he’s a little thrown off by Collazo’s eagerness to war.

This round is slower than the third, and Collazo is still making Berto fight where he doesn’t want to. And now Berto has a point taken away for holding. He’s been warned twice, it’s fair.

Berto throwing bombs now, and Collazo throwing back. Berto misses a big right.

Collazo 10-9
Berto -1 for holding
Collazo 38-37

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto is getting tested,

and his response doesn’t look good.

by E-ROC on Jan 17, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the body punches

have definately slowed him

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true

but he took a good approach this round

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea

stand outside and avoid those body blows

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berto reminds me so much of Mosley when he just fights instead of box. He makes it harder for himself but it makes for exciting fights.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good comparision

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R5

Collazo’s mouthpiece comes out 17 seconds into the round. Berto, like a gentleman, stopped and let it go.

Berto with a nice little combo, though the three shots brushed instead of landing square. Berto looks a bit confused as to what to do. Collazo has taken his jab from him, he’s making him fire combos in the wrong situations, and when they mix it up, Collazo is beating him. Berto has no rhythm in there. This just isn’t his type of fight. Collazo is deservedly the ‘dog tonight, and he’s fighting about as perfectly as he can.

Luis blocks a combo, then throws a few but misses the big left. Not many punches landing this round (11-7 Berto). Berto with a shot to the body.

Much better round for Andre as he seems to perhaps accept that Luis is going to limit him offensively, so he’d better limit Collazo.

Berto 10-9
47-47

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Another great round…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R6

Collazo has a little blood from his right ear, and Andre has a small cut on his forehead somewhere I think.

Berto comes out firing this round. Collazo is still good defensively, but he has to play defense when Berto lets his hands go like that. Berto throwing big shots, Collazo doing what he can to avoid, but he’s getting hit here and there. Collazo has a small cut outside of his left eye. Collazo with a little left hand. Berto presses him to the ropes, but Collazo is the only one punching there.

Pretty mean fight, really.

Collazo has lured Berto back into a fight inside, and he’s beating on him with his own back against the ropes. Uppercut Berto, but Collazo eats that well. Another uppercut thrown, Collazo backs down that time. Collazo finishes the round with a flurry. Half-and-half round, but I liked what Collazo did a little more. He peppered the body, took Berto out of his game again, and brought him back into a bad area. Berto did out-land him.

Collazo 10-9
Collazo 57-56

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

holding!

Lennox and I are on the same side it seems

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is Collazo doing having his hands low?

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R7

Hurrld has it 58-55 for Luis.

Berto throwing again, and Collazo again is snaking around a lot of it and just staying out of the wheelhouse. Berto with a couple of hard shots.

BOB!!! BERTO DID NOT GET KNOCKED DOWN IN ROUND ONE. WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Max points out Berto’s left eye, which is swelling. Berto is backed down and Collazo is daring him to fight it seems. This sort of posturing makes sense, kinda. But then Berto hits him a few times while Colazo stands there with his arms at his sides. Still, Berto isn’t doing a whole lot with the invitation.

Berto 10-9
66-66

Great crowd tonight, too. Both guys have their fans and they’r vocal.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bob Papa's problems tonight

1. Andre Berto was not knocked down in the first round. Someone needs to tell him.
2. Andre Berto was warned twice for holding, not once.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Harold Lederman, not Merchant

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

berto

taking over.

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great fight… have to say it once more…

Great crowd as well.

I am glad that HBO picked up this fight.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R8

Hurrld gave the last round to Collazo. I guess, man. He’s got it 68-64 for Luis. And now Lennox will regale us with stories of his fights.

Collazo, frankly, might be tired. The first two minutes of this round are Berto like the last round, working against a guy that seems to be taking a breather or fighting really stupidly, one of the two. Collazo has REALLY slowed down. It also has something to do with Berto moving constantly. Berto is all over Collazo near the end of the round, snapping his head back and rocking him!

Yyyyeeaaaah, I think Collazo is running on empty.

Berto 10-9
Berto 76-75

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto

thus far he has impressed, as Max just mentioned, by showing he could adjust and then taking over…I still don’t think he could take the top guys in the division but he’s still developing so that could change

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OT- I love the chick who is sitting on the steps besides some seats seeing the fight…. God it is sexy for some strange reason for me.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why don;t any fighters have female 'cutmen'?

Would make boring fights more watchable to have a couple of nurses about…. ;)

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They told the chick to up and leave now…lol

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no fun....

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i thought you were talking about the asian chick on the stairs

looks like she is wearing clothes like she works there…guess I was looking at the wrong one

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah… just noticed that with her ID but from far it didn’t look like that…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R9

Kellerman compares this to Calzaghe-Kessler. Eh, kinda. Kessler didn’t run out of gas.

Collazo is uhhh…yeah he’s leaning into Berto’s moderate holding now and trying to buy another point deduction. Now they mix it up a bit, Collazo throwing some leather finally. Couple of really nice lefts landed. Collazo with a sneaky combo that shakes Berto up a little. Now they’re tied up inside and scrapping again.

Berto sits in the pocket, and Collazo takes the momentum again. This is one hell of an interesting fight. Berto is looking again like he’s losing the fight. Collazo is throwing like a madman this round, short shots to the body and the head, and he’s wearing Berto down.

Berto with a right, and here they GO! Collazo is tagging Berto with nicely-timed shots, and fuck, this fight is back into gear. Wow.

Collazo 10-9
85-85

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Collazo stepped up…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R10

I can’t tell you how these final three rounds will go. That’s when a fight is really good. Hurrld has it 87-83 for Collazo.

The fight is fast and hard in close quarters again, which means Collazo is winning the fight. Berto is doing OK in there with that stuff, but Collazo is better at that than he is. Collazo is winging shots constantly, and he’s beating on Berto. Stiff right hook from Collazo, and Berto fires back with thumping shots! Jesus this is good stuff.

Berto’s head is getting rocked around because he’s trying like hell to protect his body. Luis’ activity is bedeviling Berto. Still, Collazo has to be worried about tiring himself out for the final two rounds. Collazo has thrown 103 power punches this round.

Berto’s tired, too. He just fell down from a slight push.

Uppercut from Berto. Bell sounds. Collazo threw 112 punches that round.

Collazo 10-9
Collazo 95-94

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Over 100 power punches thrown? Damn…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lou-ie—-Ber-to chant… I love this…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R11

Collazo comes out with a right hook, Berto stands his ground. Berto needs to find some answers and fast. If the judges are closer to Lederman’s card than mine (and you never know either way), he’s in real trouble.

Back-and-forth “Luis!” “Berto!” chants.

Berto is still getting himself into the inside fight. He’s not…I dunno. He’s not all there. Collazo has beaten him tactically without question. Whether or not that’s enough (Berto has outlanded Collazo) is another story.

Berto with hard hooks to the body. Still a round to be decided with 40 seconds left. Berto with a great flurry, including a right that stings Collazo. That’s going to seal the round for him.

Berto 10-9
104-104

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

12th decides it as far as I'm concerned

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Berto's dad tells him he needs a KO to win

Of course he’d be better served shutting up and letting the corner talk to him but hey. The corners are intense as hell. This is great.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah… was going to mention that…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am scared of Berto’s dad…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

me too

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

are you on facebook?

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

can I add you??

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

sure

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

just checked...

Which is you? There are several people with your name…..

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m in the Kalamazoo / Battle Creek, MI network.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

done....

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berto-Collazo R12

Berto with a big shot, Collazo goes back to the body. Berto charging with a BIG right, and he’s throwing HUGE shots. Uppercuts, straight rights, big bombs. Collazo sticks to his plan and fires to the body. Collazo does look tired. If a big shot knocks him down, he’s in serious trouble.

Big uppercut rips in, but just glances Collazo! Another one misses. Berto is throwing bombs. Period. Collazo is moving forward, throwing as much as he can. Collazo is getting hit and standing up to it. He’s got some chin.

Berto is fighting this round like a champion. Even if you think he’s losing, give him that.

Collazo’s hurt, and falls down tired. He’s out of gas to an insane degree. Uppercut to the body Berto, and he charges again! Collazo’s just trying to stay up. Goddamn this is a great 12th round.

10 seconds to go!

And it’s over. Great fight. Tough to score. We’ll see.

Berto 10-9
Berto 114-113

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

standing applause

And they earned it.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have it going to Collazo… you can’t go wrong picking either fighter.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What a great way to start off the year HBO. Much props to both fighters.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

draw

feels the most fair to me

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

we've got one Mississippi judge here

Who has never scored a title fight before. Welcome to the lion’s den, Mr. Larry Ingle.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

great fight

think berto took it.. won it in the championship rounds

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Jan 17, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No robbery but I feel for Collazo.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me too

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BERTO-COLLAZO OFFICIAL SCORES

116-111
114-113
114-113

ANDRE BERTO VIA UNANIMOUS DECISION

That 116-111 Berto card seems a little…off. The other two are basically exactly what I had.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

judges do give a bit extra for flashy stuff, handspeed etc....

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Luis Collazo is an ANIMAL..." -- Andre Berto

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Didn;t Hatton say something similar?

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe so

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berto says he'd "love" to give Collazo a rematch

“I’m a boxing fan,” he says. I’d love to see a rematch.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

would be a good one

but I’d kinda like to see Berto take on someone atop the division

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well me too

But I don’t think any of those guys are going to be available for him to fight any time soon. Maybe Clottey.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How would you see that one going? I think Clottey would have the beating of him

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Although I haven't yet seen tonight's fight.....

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd take Clottey, I think

He’s really rugged and would try to do a lot of what Collazo did tonight, make Berto fight inside.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Clottey

that would be an interesting matchup…he’d probably take the same approach as Collazo

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair play to him. Not all fighters want rematches that they know will be tough

That said, saying and doing are very different things….

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just became a unbashed Berto fan with that comment.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Collazo not crying at all

But does say “there’s no way in hell” it was 116-111 for Berto. He says it should’ve been 114-113 all the way.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I liked that Max agreed with him…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Collazo was a lot classier than I would have been after undoubtedly feeling like he got screwed again (I think it could have gone either way — but if you’re Collazo you’ve got to be thinking “when is it going to go my way?!?”)

by schraubd on Jan 17, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

great thread tonight, too

Around 150 comments for a one-fight B.A.D. is pretty awesome.

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bed for me... It is now after 4 in the morning....

Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?

Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?

by Chaos100 on Jan 17, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OMG… I love that Max mentioned all the fighters that HBO wants to show. Way to go HBO. It is a great way to sell to everyone that they want to start a new year.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Awesome promo for Margarito/Mosley…

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Shane’s gonna lose

-Brian

by bp on Jan 17, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As a boxing fan, you couldn’t have asked more for a BAD boxing card.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

asked for more*

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

anyone else catch that?

With Juno coming on next (horrible shit movie, and I like movies like that, but it sort of took everything I like about them and threw them recklessly into a blender. anyway…), Bob Papa goes, “Coming up next…Who-knee-oh!”

Bad Left Hook
Camden Chat

"I decided to become a basketball fan this year and it’s not working out so well because the Wizards SUUUCK. So then I shifted to hockey. That’s pretty fun except there are a lot of flashing lights and horns and shit at the game."

by SC on Jan 17, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He is better at calling play by play on the NFL than doing promos for HBO.

by Zocalo on Jan 17, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Fight...

….Bad Math. 116-111 deserves a look at the judges card. Honestly, this was too close a fight to call it a robbery, but funkiness was in effect on that card.

I had Letterman’s card, for the first time in a long time… not that I’m proud of that.

"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko

by jrok on Jan 17, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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