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De la Hoya’s Golden Exit

            The venerable Ring Magazine, through its Yahoo-overhauled new comprehensive website, has just featured Oscar De la Hoya with a list for his next ideal opponent. It’s been almost a month since his annihilation at the hands (or say, fists) of Manny Pacquiao and we haven’t heard from his camp yet about a plan for his possible golden exit this year.

We all know that De la Hoya didn’t look so golden in his last fight against new superstar and still pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao in their “Dream Match” that many people now think he’s done and he should be done for good. More than a few even believe that the sight of him surrendering on his stool will forever tarnish his legacy.

“The Golden Boy” stopped short of declaring his retirement, but did concede that he has to “be smart”. Does being smart mean he has to retire? Or does being smart mean he has to be even more careful in picking his next opponent?

Yes, De la Hoya looked pretty shot against “PacMan”, and not to take anything away from the brilliant performance and win of the Filipino fighter, I happen to think that the weight drain contributed a lot on the Mexican-American’s poor showing. As one ages, it’s also much more difficult to lose weight than to gain weight, so his 35-year old body didn’t help himself cope up with the weight loss either.

To top it all off, the unprecedented explosion of Pacquiao against De la Hoya exclaimed that De la Hoya’s camp erred in the selection of opponent. So the lesson to be learned would either be that De la Hoya should retire, as experts and many fans in consensus believe, or be even more careful in selecting his next opponent, as I imagine. If the latter may be the case, the accusation of fans that De la Hoya’s opponents throughout his career was handpicked for him to beat finally backfired on him on the surprising outcome of the Dream Match. I most certainly don’t buy that, as I see De la Hoya as a tough fighter who have fought the best competition available to him, and has always put on a gallant performance, in a win or a loss. The current no. 1 pound-for-pound boxer in the world, Pacquiao, is an example of a top opponent, but we all know by now that he is an exemption to my claim.

But again, that’s in part due to De la Hoya’s apparent discomfort in the 147 lb. Weight class, as well as with Pac’s blinding speed above all else.

It was a matchmaking logical error, in addition to the tactical mistake by his team about his weight coming into the fight. Excuses or not, maybe there’s still reason for Oscar De la Hoya to continue. And if they somehow sense that, here’s my idea of what could be sensible: Vernon “the Viper” Forrest.

Selecting his opponents will still be easy for ODLH, and already there’s a pool laid out there for Oscar to pick his opponent even at this point in his career. Boxing fans may not trust him anymore like they did before his match with Pacquiao, but boxers within weight reach still want to get a shot at him, because the money is likely to still be there, and De la Hoya is at his most vulnerable state as a fighter in his career. Right now, he wouldn't be pitted against most young fighters like Pacquiao, but fans would have no problem if he were matched with another veteran. Oscar is good, still good, and he looked to be a fighter who will avoid the bumpy road to the exit until he looked helpless at the ropes in round 7 looking at Pacquiao pummeling him in their bout last month. He has fought the wrong guys, it seems, and now it's time to settle for guys near his age, rather than go southward towards an Ivan Calderon.

Fight the old, because he can't fight the small? One can put it that way.

Why would it make sense to fight Vernon Forrest? Vernon Forrest is one of those few "oldies" who still has "it". Well, the Viper has only defeated his twice-tormentor Shane Mosley also twice, coupled with the fact that Mosley is fighting at welterweight, De la Hoya does not have to fight Mosley anymore. Forrest is also a champion, and rated no. 1 by the Ring Magazine in a weight class De la Hoya is more comfortable with. At his rating, people don’t think of Forrest as a washed-up fighter, unlike Felix Trinidad (De la Hoya would love to have revenge and we do too, so this may count), another boxer lined up in the De la Hoya sweepstakes, or raffle, right now. Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. is another young gun offering intrigue with a match-up with De la Hoya, but the son of the legendary Chavez Sr. is still an unproven commodity with still unfurnished talent and skills. That bout would have stirred a lot of plotlines, but plotlines alone which may not satisfy audiences when it comes to De la Hoya’s fights. Don’t get me wrong but if this were to happen, I think Oscar wins. Decisively. Plus, people criticized De la Hoya for not taking on Antonio Margarito instead when he fought Pacquiao, saying he's a coward or something to that effect by avoiding men his own size. Let's not forget that Oscar showed interest - and consideration - in facing Miguel Cotto, a natural welterweight, but he lost to Margarito. As I remember clearly, De la Hoya refused to fight Mexicans for his last fight, so "The Tijuana Tornado" was cut off. My point? Chavez Jr., with all the rivalries and stories they have between them, is a Mexican.

If De la Hoya could defeat Forrest, he would get both a championship and glory, enough to warrant him a “golden exit” and escape the usual route of aging fighters who leave the sport at the mercy of a younger fighter in destroyed fashion. Forget the money. Anyway, it might still be there (just a smile from Oscar, if nothing else).

It is clear that Oscar De la Hoya does not have a career left for him like his heart wants, but one fight can and will prove that he’s a true champion like those others who still have “one big fight” in him.

The gut here is that he will still fight again, and with smarter decisions in and out of the ring this time, he can still win.

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Said it before i think he is done in the ring… But they keep on coming back dont they? Vernon Forrest is not really that special, not no more and that matchup does not give me the horn.
Dig up Felix Trinidad or Apollo Creed , ill watch.

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by dinkman on Jan 5, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

seems like nobody’s having the “horn” from this match-up, but that’s the thing. that’s why I wrote it when I thought of it. if forrest is not that special, then no one is in the middleweight division, for he’s atop it (according to the ring’s ratings).

by Fj-3 on Jan 6, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean, super welterweight…

by Fj-3 on Jan 6, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

can't see Oscar-Vernon

Obviously I’m sure Vernon would love it and as far as 154-pound fighters go, Forrest is the best outside of divisional chameleon Paul Williams, but there’s no snap, crackle or pop to an Oscar-Vernon matchup, and you sure as hell can’t sell it on PPV. And I don’t think I’m insulting Oscar by suggesting he cares 1-236) about money, and 237) about anything else.

Since fighting Yori Boy Campas in ‘03, every fight Oscar’s had has been given some sort of easily sellable gimmick:

Rematch with Mosley is, obviously, a rematch with Sugar Shane Mosley. Their first fight was great and it sold, and Oscar was coming to get revenge.

The fight with Sturm was Oscar stepping up to 160 pounds and looking to become a six-division “champion.” Oscar-Sturm was no great shakes on PPV (sixth-lowest grossing PPV fight of Oscar’s career), and the result of the fight really started bringing out questions about him, since he was, as we all know, fat and was rather outboxed by the unknown Sturm.

So with that fight, Oscar decides to take on The World’s Greatest Middleweight, Bernard Hopkins…just…not at 160 pounds, OK? Righty-o.

Oscar gets knocked out and takes nearly two years off, coming back to face one of the greatest trash talkers of all-time, Ricardo Mayorga. “This time it’s personal!” I don’t know why it was so insanely personal when they signed the deal, prior to Mayorga so outrageously insulting Oscar at press conferences and making Oscar make his ridiculous Serious Face, but hey, it’s another huge PPV success, because Oscar and Ricardo both sell fights.

Floyd was the pound-for-pound best, and that was a license to print money, especially as Mayweather proves he can hang with anyone in terms of charisma.

Even the Stevie Forbes fight had a sales pitch. “Oscar thanks his fans with this ‘free’ fight on subscription HBO! Come on out to the Home Depot Center for ‘affordable’ tickets, at least so long as you want to sit half a mile away from the ring!”

And Pacquiao was the P4P best this time around, plus it really did have a “Dream Match” appeal to it.

What do you do with Vernon Forrest? Vernon hasn’t been a major name since Mayorga beat him twice and the injuries started piling up. Sure he’s won six of seven since the Mayorga losses, but he hasn’t exactly been lighting the world on fire through that stretch either. Vernon’s hard to sell.

Chavez Jr. will sell enoug with the Latino demographic, and unless Oscar is COMPLETELY shot, he should still have the savvy and ability to pretty much embarrass the kid. Which could then lead Oscar to another big name fight. Not only does it fit in with the pattern of his recent career in needing big, bold, neon taglines attached to his boxing events, but it fits in with his career-long practice of following a loss with a fight there’s no way he should lose.

Loss to Trinidad → Derrell Coley (keep in mind I’m not saying Coley or any of these guys are bad fighters, just that they’re certainly guys Oscar should beat)

Loss to Mosley → Arturo Gatti

Loss to Mosley II → Sturm

Loss to Hopkins → Mayorga

Loss to Mayweather → Forbes

Loss to Pacquiao → ???

Chavez makes the most sense. Plus, to be totally honest, I think Arum HAS to have that tick in the back of his brain telling him he better make some real money off this kid at least once, because sooner or later the jig is going to be up. Matt Vanda put the fear of God into Junior’s career, y’know?

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by SC on Jan 6, 2009 5:35 AM EST reply actions  

Hey, thanks for that rather compelling response.

I forgot a few points in that article but your comment, mr. editor (you are something like that, right?) revived them. I’m sorry if its not very professional to do so but next time I’ll do better. I elaborated why Chavez Jr. is still not my choice for De la Hoya, but mostly thanks for the comment. And the rec. It was more like constructive, and I did reconstruct. =)

Back to the article, you said that ODLH has more than enough money past this lifetime, so I think he should not really think of that money for his last fight. With Pac, he was attacked because people said it was all money for him, but he insists it’s the challenge. Well, I think Forrest is a challenge, one that he can overcome though. Many athletes’ motivation is glory, so I think for one last moment, let hm focus on that rather than money. ODLH’s stock also decreased after “the dream match” and one wonders how else people will believe him. It isn’t like no one’s gonna tune in on this one, for many still love De la Hoya and will support him for this moment, if not, just one smile will remind them all.

by Fj-3 on Jan 6, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

mr. editor (you are something like that, right?)

Ehhh, so-so.

I wouldn’t mind Oscar-Vernon at all — as long as I didn’t have to pay to see it. Put that on HBO and I’m all for it.

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by SC on Jan 6, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

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