Does Jermain Taylor "have it" mentally to beat Arthur Abraham?
Ron Borges of The Sweet Science wrote an intriguing article that pretty well hammers Jermain Taylor for his "constant excuses" for his losses. It's the sort of well-written, well-reasoned and totally cutting article that is fairly rare.
Jermain Taylor loses these kinds of fights because he respects neither his opponent’s skills or his own. At the age of 30, a professional for eight years, he claimed to have not trained properly for Froch. After they woke him up, Taylor said exhaustion and Big Macs got him not the undefeated WBC champion. Sadly, six months later he’s still saying the same thing.
"The only reason I lost to Carl Froch was because I got tired,’’ he said this week.
No, the only reason you lost to Carl Froch was because he’s a professional and you’re not. He comes to the arena physically prepared, mentally prepared and emotionally prepared. Although he is far less gifted an athlete then Taylor (or even than young Dirrell who is so blessed with speed and movement) but he defeated him because he is a master craftsman who shows up to work every day with his tools sharpened, a proper lunch in his pail and a desire to leave the job at the end of the day having given full measure to the people who pay him.
It's pretty scathing.
I do disagree with Borges' assertion that Taylor has short-changed fans; that's about the last thing I'd say of Taylor, and I've also been pretty critical of Jermain since the Winky Wright fight, which now feels like an age ago. If Taylor has really lost fights because of bad conditioning, as he claims, then yes, he's certainly short-changed himself. But not the fans. Taylor shows up to fight every time out. Both fights with Kelly Pavlik and the fight with Froch -- all losses -- were great fights, one of them (the first with Pavlik) an instant classic and the greatest middleweight bout of the decade. I see what Borges is saying, but I don't think I'd phrase it that way, that's all.
This is a fight that Jermain badly needs. If he loses, that's not the end of the world, but it can't be for the same reasons he's had before, and I'm of the opinion, as an observer, that his losses run deeper than just mediocre preparation. It's a question of whether or not he "has it" mentally, whether tired or not, he can find the resolve to stand in there and battle through a tough go of it. So far, he's had trouble doing that.
And at 31, no offense to Jermain, is there really any reason to think he's going to start now?
This is the sort of thinking that has me favoring Abraham more and more, even more than in the preview where I picked Arthur. Taylor, as great a guy as I think he is, hasn't shown the ability to persevere when up against it. In other words, Jermain Taylor is guilty until proven innocent. Maybe on Saturday he proves his innocence. Or maybe, now that he's claimed that his training is finally up to snuff, he's just out of excuses.
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There comes a point...
When he’s run out of excuses and his back is against the wall, that I believe we’ll see that he actually has some dog in him.
If you get tired, then its hard to perservere when its tough, because your body wants to quit. People talk like it’ll be miraculous if he suddenly is well conditioned for this fight. Its not like we’re asking Malignaggi to suddenly develop one punch KO power or Khan to develop an Andrade chin.
Conditioning most conspicuously lost him his last fight, and a fitter JT will also be mentally stronger knowing that he’s Really put the work in. And then AA will have to show he can step up.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
by BrianBrock on Oct 17, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Borges is on target. Jermain is going to get “tired” again here, right around the tenth round.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on Oct 17, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is it for him anyway, so he has to leave it all out there. I thought that article was particularly venomous, and I hope that if he loses its because the other guy was better rather than him not finishing when having the chance/getting tired. I’m like in the minority of one of his conditioning, but it should be a good one.
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
by BrianBrock on Oct 17, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you are right about how venomous it was. That did seem a little weird, as though Taylor is the only guy in history to have a bunch of excuses for his losses. In a lot of ways, the history of Boxing is the history of Excuses. For every guy that says “the better man won tonight” there are fifty with back aches, tennis elbows, cold sores, walking pneumonia, etc. That’s as much a part of the game as gloves, so I don’t see any reason to single Taylor out for it. Maybe Borges is still mad about JT being so oversold by HBO. He should get over it.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on Oct 17, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Borges is a smart observer and writes well, but it’s part of his m.o. to be unfair to boxers as a means of finding grist for his opinions. I remember in a pre-fight to one of Shane Mosley’s fights a few years ago (vs. Collazo? Vargas?), Borges scoffed at Mosley for his “arrogance” in choosing to fight Winky Wright when every other fighter in boxing was smart enough to know how great Winky was and avoided him. Totally ridiculous, but that’s the kind of thing he does, consistently.
by taco pal on Oct 17, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there such a thing...
…as a “good loss?”
I think it applies in football under certain situations, so would it apply in boxing? And in particular for Taylor?
"Gowin on fourth and 14 will punt it away. He hangs it very high, angling it for the near sideline...HAKIM DROPS THE BALL!!! HAKIM DROPS THE BALL!! Brian Milne might've fallen on it at the ten yard line! It's the New Orleans Saints' football! Brian Milne, the most unlikely hero of them all, falls on the fumble, the muff by Hakim! There is a God after all!" -- Jim Henderson
by hakimdropstheball on Oct 17, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is defintely a good loss in boxing. Rogers Mtagwa just had a great loss. Clottey’s loss to Cotto was a good loss. Mosley’s loss to Cotto was a good loss. If Jermain fights a hard 12 and loses a good fight, it’s a good loss for him, though it’ll probably still be treated like he just died.
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Oct 17, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Classic example… Vitali vs Lewis…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Oct 17, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be a great loss
because the reason that cut happened is still debated today… While who was on top in that fight is debated alot less.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 18, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have all said that about him… He just doesn’t have it in him to be the creme of the crop because he is not a natural boxer.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Oct 17, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t share your enthusiasm about this article Scott. It seems to me that he merely repeats the most obvious point possible about Taylor over and over and over again. What? Taylor tends to gas late! Stop the presses!
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Oct 17, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s not about that, I don’t think. It’s more about Abraham-Taylor and what becomes of Jermain if he loses again, because he’s spent the entire build-up saying, “Yeah, I’m in better shape, I did this and that and this and that, and the only reason I lost before was because I got tired.” Well, what does he do if he loses this time?
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Oct 17, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
But I still think this essay is repetitious and that he dwells on some pretty obvious points. I like your coverage better.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Oct 17, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s also talking about Taylor’s state of mind, which is mostly guesswork and has been talked about to death. This is a bigger issue then “gassing late”…. the seventh round isn’t exactly “late”, and I’m not sure why some guys think it is. Not so long ago, it wasn’t even half a championship fight. Pavlik kayoed Taylor not because Taylor was tired, but because he looks like he loses focus a lot. You can tell when someone is focused and determined, and Taylor hasn’t had that look about him since Hopkins I, if ever really.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on Oct 17, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, a bigger actual concern is that JT has a habit of abandoning what seem to be good gameplans, and it’s not an adjustment from the opponent that makes him do it. He just gets lackadaisical.
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Oct 17, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well there is no shame in losing by KO with guys with a 90% and 80% KO rate… You know he just might not be skilled enough to get by on his physical talents…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Oct 17, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well... Did he gas late?
Did he get caught perfect? That shot didn’t look any cleaner or harder than anything before it but it obviously was. Must have been right perfectly on the button while Jermain (or German if you pronounce it in German) stuck his chin out.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 18, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He got him flush on the chin and it was lights out…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Oct 18, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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