Michael Katsidis to force Juan Manuel Marquez's hand
by SC on Oct 26, 2009 4:03 PM EDT
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BoxingScene.com reports that as you might expect, lightweight contender and interim WBO titlist Michael Katsidis plans to use his status as WBO mandatory to force a fight with divisional champion Juan Manuel Marquez, or at the least get Marquez to give up his WBO title belt.
"S**t or get off the pot. Fight me or give up the title," Katsidis said.
Katsidis’ agent Sampson Lewkowicz told BoxingScene.com that either Marquez agrees to the fight or vacates his title [which in turn makes Katsidis the full champion].
"The champion can not stop the career of Michael Katsidis. If he doesn’t want to fight him, then give up your title and let Michael continue his career. Don’t put a stop on Michael Katsidis’ career. If he doesn’t want to fight, we will fight the proper opponent or challenger who is acceptable to HBO and Golden Boy Promotions," Lewkowicz said.
Katsidis is actually a great idea for a comeback opponent for Marquez, a legit challenger and a tough guy who makes exciting fights. Marquez hasn't said much about a return, so the question is what he's looking to accomplish at age 36. If he's looking simply for the most money and only a couple more fights, he'll likely try to get that 140-pound battle with Ricky Hatton, who also appears to be near the end of a storied career.
But if Marquez is looking to fight on for a few more years, he might take the Katsidis challenge. He'd be a heavy favorite over Katsidis, who has some power and always comes to fight, but is fairly limited and I think would be a heavy underdog against a guy like Marquez, who even at his age and blown up a bit past his best at 135 pounds, is still a far superior boxer. Marquez-Katsidis could be a war, would be a great HBO fight, and is in a position to be made very easily. Katsidis wouldn't be looking to bully his portion of the purse or anything like that, he just wants to prove himself.
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i’ll probably the only one saying this, but i’d take katsidis to KO marquez pretty handily and NOT because of my hatred for JMM
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Katsidis a bunch, but his power against good opponents hasn’t really proven out in any major fashion. He’s not half as strong as Max Kellerman gushes about.
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by SC on Oct 26, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m sure as hell he’s stronger than baby bull, and baby bull nearly KO’d JMM. granted baby bull is the better fighter of the two, but if there is anyone out there with enough power to put away JMM at 135, it’s Katsidis
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 26, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Valero
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by Brickhaus on Oct 26, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Valero, Ali Funeka, maybe Antonio DeMarco. I’d give them all better shots than Katsidis for various reasons.
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by SC on Oct 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and Urbano Antillon
One upset loss aside, he’s still a hell of a promising fighter.
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by SC on Oct 26, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i was mostly talking about katsidis because well he’s the guy in the article, and he’s the guy that JMM has to/more likely to fight than the others you mentioned.
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 26, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JMM is way to good of a fighter…excuse me to GREAT of a fighter to loss to Katisidis. Unless Juan is shot whihc i dont believe i would bet on him. He beat Joel Casamayor which Katsidis lost to, Diaz was winning the opening round but JMM figured him out and put him out. Michael would win rounds and would be a great fight but lets not forget who knocked out both of Katsidis’ oppenents that he lost to it was “el Dinomita”. I do hope the fight happens though! lets hope so
by randyman22 on Oct 26, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baby Bull was winning more than just the opening round. don’t bring that “he beat boxer a who boxer b lost to” that’s irrelevant, just ask mayorga how that logic works out. it’s not that JMM is shot, he’s just fighting at a heavier weight than he should. he’ll get demolished by anyone with real power (like katsidis)
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 26, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t get demolished by Casamayor, and Casamayor knocked the piss out of Katsidis.
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by SC on Oct 26, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
katsidis had that fight in the bag and made a stupid mistake. casamayor isn’t a “bully” style of fighter, but baby bull (no power) & katsidis (power) are “bullies”. we’ve all seen what baby bull did to JMM (though he obv couldn’t finish due to his lack of power), so i have no reason to believe that another bully (albeit a much cruder one) couldn’t do the same thing.
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 27, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
katsidis had that fight in the bag and made a stupid mistake.
He was up, but barely, and you could probably have had it scored for Casamayor. Momentum was on his side, but it was far from “in the bag.” Katsidis got knocked on his ass twice in the first round by Casamayor, who then laid off the gas and kind of let Katsidis back into the fight. JMM isn’t a “lay off the gas” guy. I honestly think JMM routs Katsidis.
Marquez also LET Diaz fight that way because he knew — and I assume could feel — that Diaz isn’t much of a puncher, and the only time Diaz had ever lost was when Campbell went toe-to-toe with him and outgutted him. I kind of doubt Marquez fights Katsidis the exact same way he fought Diaz.
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by SC on Oct 27, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
casamayor himself was knocked on his ass outside of the damn ring, and the middle rounds were easily for katsidis. if he had continued what he was doing that wouldve been an easy decision, but alas that didn’t happen so it doesn’t matter anymore.
don’t give me that he “let” diaz war with him malarkey. yeah i’m sure his gameplan on the outset was to let baby bull throw a million punches per round, but after that first round there was no way in hell that you can deny the fact that JMM was getting his ass whupped. hell i’m sure JMM knew how light diaz’s punches were while he was hurt multiple times throughout the first 6 rounds before he wisely changed the plan. come on dawg, don’t pretend as if that fight was a JMM demolishing of the baby bull. he was getting whupped for about 6 rounds, until the obv happened. i’m sorry but JMM ain’t so hot at 135 and a hard punching bully will send him straight into retirement (or a pathetic retirement fight with ricky hatton)
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 27, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t give me that he "let" diaz war with him malarkey. yeah i’m sure his gameplan on the outset was to let baby bull throw a million punches per round, but after that first round there was no way in hell that you can deny the fact that JMM was getting his ass whupped.
Do you think fighters don’t know what they can take, how they want to fight someone, and never lure someone into traps? Because he clearly did just that with Diaz. Yes, Diaz was winning, but he was also tagging Diaz with a lot of very hard counter shots with his back against the ropes, which Lampley didn’t much bother calling because he got a little red dog boner for Diaz and didn’t notice that there was plenty that Marquez was doing well despite losing the rounds. It was — and I hate bringing this fight up — reminiscent of Cotto-Margarito in that regard. Cotto was shutting Margarito out, but Margarito KEPT landing good rallies and putting work in, even in rounds he lost.
i’m sorry but JMM ain’t so hot at 135 and a hard punching bully will send him straight into retirement (or a pathetic retirement fight with ricky hatton)
Well then Casamayor and Diaz stink, because he knocked them out. And my point is mostly that Katsidis probably doesn’t punch as hard as you’re thinking he does. I don’t really think he punches much harder than Casamayor, and he’s certainly not as quick as Casa or Diaz, and even Diaz mixes up his angles better than Katsidis does. Are you buying that Max Kellerman line about him being Rocky Marciano mixed with Gatti or what?
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by SC on Oct 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you buying that Max Kellerman line about him being Rocky Marciano mixed with Gatti or what?
hell no, but i’m just saying that JMM is losing his punch resistance. i see your point about JMM deliberately going to war with diaz, but that doesn’t change the fact that he was HURT by diaz’s punches. now i’m not sure how powerful katsidis’ truly is, but i’m sure he’s stronger than diaz. JMM is too much of a guerrero not to go to war with katsidis, and if he does he’ll get KO’d.
about them both stinking because JMM ain’t so hot, i’m 100% sure that if baby bull had just the slightest bit of power JMM wouldve been out cold by the end of round 1 of that fight. he did fight a great fight against an old casamayor though
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 27, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kellerman quallified that comparison of Katsidis to Marciano and Gatti by saying Katsidis was no where near their skill just that his style was sort of a combination of the two.
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by Manuwar on Oct 27, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s not really much like Gatti at all other than they both cut. Stylistically he’s probably closer to Rocky than Arturo.
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by SC on Oct 27, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be a good three the hard way matchup .. Marquez, Katsidis, and Hatton.
by Haans Bishop on Oct 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really, really, really...
like this fight to happen. Make it happen, JMM. =)
by Fj-3 on Oct 27, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this would make for an awesome fight. JMM has to slow down at some point in his carreer and I think although this would be a good fight in the end JMM would get knocked out.
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by Manuwar on Oct 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kat made Diaz look powerful. I had Houston’s finest working Kat badly. And, Kat’s power never got anywhere with Diaz. I have JMM sniping Kat pretty badly.
I root for Kat because he’s got a great personality, he’s fantastic in the post-fight win or lose. But I think he’s a paper-tiger for someone of JMM’s caliber.
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by lcollins1 on Oct 27, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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