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Andre Berto calls out Shane Mosley on Twitter

Twitter is the scene for Andre Berto's trash talk toward Shane Mosley. The world has come to this. (Photo via www.carmafoundation.org)

Twitter is the scene for Andre Berto's trash talk toward Shane Mosley. The world has come to this. (Photo via www.carmafoundation.org)

WBC welterweight titlist Andre Berto has decided to use his Twitter account to stir up talk for a probable/possible/potential/unlikely (who can keep track anymore?) January fight with WBA titlist Shane Mosley, and boy is it...something.

From Berto:

Is Shane_Mosley that desperate talkin all this crazy s**t no knowing he's makin himself look like a dumb ass like he did with floyd

Shane_Mosley Boy I will shread yo ass up. U poppin smack at the wrong one iam not floyd

His ol lady had the pants in the realationship now she's gone so he's startin to speak up like a big boy ha ha I see u Shane_Mosley

U know what I don't even think I want to fight Shane_Mosley u know he's know for takin them steroids prolly got some in his pocket now

It's all pretty, uh...Jesus, I don't even know the word I want to use here. Desperate? Boring? Irrelevant? It's out of character for Berto, who's a pretty nice dude, and it just smacks as a clumsy attempt at getting people to talk about the fight. Mosley-Berto is a good enough fight that it should sell itself, but getting this fight made is apparently like pulling freaking teeth here. Mosley and Golden Boy aren't thrilled having been jerked around with a December date that fell through thanks to HBO moving Kelly Pavlik-Paul Williams into that spot, and now HBO reaps what they sow as Pavlik has pulled out again leaving Paul Williams-TBA with an undecided co-feature for a card that doesn't even have a venue anymore.

Berto and promoter Lou DiBella seem willing to fight, but who knows what they want money-wise? As I've said before, it appears that HBO has created a monster with Berto, as they overpaid him for mismatches, showcases and record-fluffing fights in the past. When it was rumored that there could be a Mosley-Clottey / Berto-Hlatshwayo double-header in December, the rumor was that HBO offered Berto about what they've been paying him, and whether it's actually any bigger or more competitive a fight than his past bouts, Berto-Hlatshwayo would be a unification bout. On paper, that should be worth more.

HBO wanted to create a star in Berto, but the truth is, stars aren't created in boxing. This isn't pro wrestling. Stars make themselves. HBO shoved Jermain Taylor at us, and it never quite took off, even though Taylor did some good things. Berto is only a marginally bigger name now than he was when HBO started regularly featuring his smash fests as he rose up the ranks at 147 pounds. His biggest fight ever is still Luis Collazo this past January, and that was a Boxing After Dark main event. A good fight, yes. A tough fight, yes. But not a particularly big fight. Neither was his summer bout with Juan Urango.

It just feels like this fight is taking way too much effort to make all things considered. Mosley should be dying to get into the ring in January. He'll have been off a year by that point, and he'd still be a favorite against the younger Berto, whose "0" he could take, a pretty nice way to call out Floyd Mayweather were he to win. And for Berto this would be by far his biggest fight, and a win would elevate him to a level, frankly, where he might be able to get a fight with Mayweather himself. He'd be an appealing, dynamic young guy with a spotless record and a huge win over Mosley.

All this delay and negotiation and talk from both sides, and we're talking about a matchup that nearly happened in January 2009 when Antonio Margarito nearly pulled out of his fight with Mosley. From all accounts -- including Shane himself -- Mosley-Berto was good to go if Margarito backed out. Now here we are with both of them at better places than they were then, and it's a long, drawn-out process.

Unless one of them can now get Joshua Clottey in January -- which is a possibility now, I suppose -- there isn't a better fight at 147 for either of them. Cotto and Pacquiao are busy. Floyd's not fighting either of them in January.

I say remain confident that Mosley-Berto comes off, but don't expect any type of formal announcement in the next week or anything.

Twitter. For God's sake.

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Andre Berto's Twitter

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Careful what you ask for Andre...

You’re talkin’ to a future HOF’er!!! Shane’s got a lot of gas left in the tank, plenty for a still wet behind the ears cat like you!!

by SmittytheCutman on Oct 28, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is all good hype for the fight. Twitter is just another way for shit to get stirred up.
I think Berto will show Mosley that he isn’t as fast as he thinks anymore. The line about his wife running the show, is actually on point by Berto. The fight will be good no matter what.

by Haans Bishop on Oct 28, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Berto will show Mosley that he isn’t as fast as he thinks anymore.

So I’ve heard!

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mosley, Clottey, Berto, Hlatshwayo… pretty soon HBO is going to be able to do their own little tournament at 147.

by ryanwk628 on Oct 28, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That would be nice to see. This way they can truly define this so called P4P claim that was made up by commentators and writers that most of them never touched foot in a room.

by Haans Bishop on Oct 28, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jesus christ

No. That won’t really do it.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 28, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man does Hlatshwayo not even begin to belong in that conversation.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 28, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he looked damn good when I saw him against Delvin Rodruguez. Like a more aggressive Clottey

by ryanwk628 on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course not, Hlatshwayo wouldn’t be in that conversation at all. But I do believe that another tournament would be good for the excitement of the sport and that division.

by Haans Bishop on Oct 28, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not going to happen at 147. These guys can make money without a tournament. The guys in the Super Six are maxing out with the tournament.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that’s true. But you see what’s going on in that tournament already.When those guys Abraham and Froch decide they want to fight in the states on a regular they will be exposed like a Ricky Hatton. That, In the Back Alley, one punch, bar style of fighting won’t fly over here.

by Haans Bishop on Oct 28, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arthur Abraham is a brilliant defensive fighter with world class power. Carl Froch has more guts than anyone in the tournament, probably. And Ricky Hatton is arguably the best 140-pound fighter of the decade.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 28, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Abraham, Froch, and Hatton... Please!

Ricky Hatton has been exposed that’s why he is debating whether or not if he wants to fight anymore. Knocked out two times in a row by fighters with style .. Head movement, foot work, able to counter punch, and box while back peddling, punches in bunches, etc… Style… This is what I’m talking about. And Carl Froch,Please……. We’re not talking guts here ..All the fighters have guts. . I guarantee that again…IF ABRAHAM AND FROCH DECIDE TO FIGHT MORE CONSISTENTLY IN THE STATES, THEY WILL BE EXPOSED.
I don’t think that your understanding what I am saying… In my opinion although it’s a statistical fact …. A BOXER WILL BEAT A BRAWLER ALMOST EVERY TIME. And that’s what those guys are ! Stats and Time will tell!

by Haans Bishop on Oct 28, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Abraham is not a brawler. I don’t know if you’re basing your assertion on nationality or race or what, but it definitely isn’t based on the facts.

by taco pal on Oct 28, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, even setting Abraham aside, the conventional wisdom has always been that brawlers beat boxers if you consider “brawler” to be the same thing as “swarmer”. So you’re wrong on the facts and you’re wrong on theory.

by taco pal on Oct 28, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never noticed a real trend, personally

Styles make fights, and even in the boxer vs brawler debate, there are enough stylistic differences from fighter to fighter that I just don’t think any particular rule holds true.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, well I should clarify that I don’t necessarily agree with those generalizations 100%. I was just trying to make the point that, the fact that the conventional wisdom says there is a style that beats the “boxer” style is at least an indication that the “boxer” style isn’t unbeatable, contrary to what Mr. Bishop seems to believe.

by taco pal on Oct 29, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watch Boxing

Do you look at boxing? Or do you just watch it? There is a difference you know. I’m starting to believe that some people have the assumption that boxing has to do with the amount of punches a fighter can take " Minus " being elusive at the same time. Style my friend… Style!!!! I don"t know what that swarmer stuff you are talking about. IE.. Holyfield, Mayweather, PacMan, Sugar Ray, James Toney ( earlier), Ali… etc.

Style my friend.. And race is not an option!

by Haans Bishop on Oct 28, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although I am wary of continuing this arguemnt...

It’s a little worrying that someone who claims to know so much about boxing

Do you look at boxing? Or do you just watch it? There is a difference you know

doesn’t even understand the separate styles. You say you don’t know what swarmer means and then list a number of good boxers claiming they have style. This would lead me to believe that you think style is simply synonymous with good. Style simply refers to the way a particular fighter fights.

Anyway my confusion aside, Abraham has one of the best defenses in boxing (and there are some damn good ones around right now) and also has great punching power. He is a very skilled boxer who may not beat every American fighter he faces in the future but won’t do so badly against any I can name to justify saying he is exposed.

I don’t really like Froch or Hatton but denying their accomplishments is foolish. Hatton only lost to 2 fighters, both great, and Froch isn’t…well…actually I really don’’t like Froch!

by Drunken cutman on Oct 29, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Ricky Hatton is arguably the best 140-pound fighter of the decade.

the POLL doesn’t agree with you

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Oct 29, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The poll has arguments for him, as people voted for him.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 29, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tweeter is the new trend

Even ghost are taunting people via tweeter – David Letterman

He can make a fool of himself on tweeter, but Beyonce tweeter is the best in the Universe. That will never get old. Well, maybe it will.

"Penelosa is not human." -Max Kellerman on Gerry Penelosa during the Juan Manuel Lopes-Gerry Penelosa bout.

by Sickle on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets get to Rumble

Can we see a Picture of Mosley when he was on Steroids?

by rgb on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He was never on steroids. He took a blood-doping agent that helps with your endurance.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that legal in boxing? I don’t think so!

by Haans Bishop on Oct 29, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

but it isn’t nearly as serious. Still hardly fair or perhaps forgivable but most people seem to believe that he didn’t know what he was taking. And if he did he should take up acting when he quits boxing!

by Drunken cutman on Oct 29, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No shit it’s not legal in boxing, but it’s not a steroid. People incorrectly use the word “steroid” as a catch-all for every PED. I’m just saying EPO (which raises your red blood cell count) is not a steroid.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 29, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lame...

To much.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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by staylost on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Berto was pretty upset at the interview Shane gave with boxing talk

That’s what he said at least. It seems they have been talking about this fight forever, I want them to agree or move on at this point

by cardscott5 on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m not saying that Andre was right for his stream of trash talk via Twitter but it seems like something Shane said really pissed him off. Here were his earlier tweets before the ones quoted in the blog post:

http://twitter.com/AndreBerto/status/5216035328

http://twitter.com/AndreBerto/status/5216062047

http://twitter.com/AndreBerto/status/5216166554

I can see him using Shane’s interview as a chance to create hype/controversy with “bad blood” but I can also see him just being genuinely angry/hurt by the interview. Maybe it was a knee jerk emotional response to lash out.

by soulrise on Oct 28, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really Berto?

Shouldn’t Berto be better at this? Didn’t he go back and forth with Chad Ochocinco in the preseason (The Ocho took up boxing and wants to fight Berto)? This may be just a guess but I bet Chad talks some serious smack and I’m sure Berto tried to come back with some of his own.

by waldo47 on Oct 28, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Incredibly childish and crass comments from Berto.

I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)

by BrianBrock on Oct 28, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

btw SC

with your ‘Twitter. For God’s sake’ anyone would think BLH wasn’t on it…..thats the only reason I joined it, to ‘follow’?! :)

I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)

by BrianBrock on Oct 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is the definiition of selling wolf tickets

Chiefs 2009 Predictions
Tamba Hali will have Double Digits sacks
The OL will be a strength by years end
Larry Johnson will have 1200+ yards
the team will win 7+ games
a receiver not named Bowe will emerge
.

by teabaggingexper on Oct 28, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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