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Joshua Clottey defends decision to turn down Paul Williams

Welterweight contender Joshua Clottey has turned down a December 5 fight with Paul Williams. He explains himself today.

Welterweight contender Joshua Clottey has turned down a December 5 fight with Paul Williams. He explains himself today.

Former welterweight titlist Joshua Clottey has turned down a $650,000 to fight Paul Williams at 154 pounds on December 5, and now he's defending the decision to do just that. Speaking with Ryan Burton, Clottey had this to say:

"I don't turn down any fights and I want the fight with Paul Williams.  I have been telling you that for a long time. What is fair is fair. I haven't been in the gym for 5 days and I sent my trainer back home to Africa.  If they want to fight me why didn't they call me first?  Why did they negotiate with Sergio Martinez and Sergiy Dzinziruk first? They could have came to me right away and we would have a deal.

"We are only 5 weeks away from that date and they want me to fight for 650k?  Ryan let me tell you something, I made less than that to fight Cotto and Cotto made millions.  The arena was full.  You were there you saw it.  Now for this fight, Paul Williams is going to make a lot more than $1 million and you want to give me 650k to fight on short notice.  That just isn't right.  Either give me more money or move the fight back a few weeks so I can have a full 8 weeks to prepare."

It sounds reasonable enough, but the fact is both of these guys are faced with pretty limited options right now. Williams is basically trying to get anyone that'll fight, and Clottey...well, Clottey's screwed for a name opponent for a while now.

As Clottey says, $650,000 is more than he got to fight Cotto. If that seems low because he's a good fighter, remember that being a good fighter isn't the issue here. Williams-Clottey isn't going to draw a crowd. His reference to the full arena in June against Cotto ignores that that was 97% Cotto's doing. Williams has no fanbase, Clottey doesn't have a fanbase. As good as they both are in the ring, Williams-Clottey sounds like the kind of fight that does 1,200 at the live gate in Vegas or, well, just about anywhere else. Maybe 2,500-3,000 or so if you stick it in an "out-of-the-way" place like Spokane, Wash., and promote like hell in the local market, which is something promoters were trying a while back that seemed to work OK.

$650K for this fight seems more than fair to me as an observer. Williams also does hold an interim title at 154. And Clottey has been training, and he's been training for a southpaw, to boot. His attempt to hold them up for more than $650K just doesn't seem like a smart move, because that already seems fairly generous, and it kind of seems like the combined purses here might lead to Goossen Tutor and HBO taking a bath on this show in the interest of getting a good fight out there.

There is also no chance that the fight will be pushed back "a few weeks," considering HBO scrapped plans for Mosley-Clottey on December 26 when they apparently and suddenly realized that December 26 is close to Christmas.

As for why he went to Martinez and Dzinziruk first -- well, they're 154-pound fighters, and titleholders in the division, too. It's nothing to do with "ignoring" Clottey, who prefers to fight at welterweight and has no "extra incentive." Martinez, Dzinziruk and Clottey are all more than suitable replacement opponents for Williams on December 5. It's not like he's trying to find an easy fight here.

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I suppose you have to respect Williams for still trying to make a tough fight. He would probably beat Clottey on points but it wouldn’t be easy. It’s a real shame that this fight hasn’t been made as both guys are fun to watch and seem like nice people. I really hope they both sort something out soon!

by Drunken cutman on Oct 29, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

According to Dan Rafael, Goosen also wanted a rematch clause. That swings things a bit as well.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 29, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

also according to the same guy, they might switch PW’s dec.5 date with diaz-malignaggi II date which might give clottey that extra week he wants

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by battle axe of doom on Oct 29, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t get it. If Williams is offering more money than he got for the Cotto fight, isn’t that a good thing?

by taco pal on Oct 29, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it is, sort of

Although $650K sounds like great money for Clottey, I completely understand his reasoning for wanting more.

He’s made a lot of new fans since his loss to Cotto. And although the current offer is more than what he made for the Cotto fight, he believes that it is not proportional to his new-found (albeit unrealized) drawing power (especially considering that there are few fights for P. Williams as well).

by steak_knife on Oct 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn’t take it if i was clottys people. not on such short notice anyway. williams was training for a the middleweight title fight, clotty training for welterweight contender match. its too much to ask of him imo.

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by sonofapsycho on Oct 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

'either give me more money or....'

Don’t put yourself at a disadvantage for more money dude. Just stick with ‘I need the full 8 weeks to prepare for the fight’. Sounds so much better. To be as good as Clottey is and fight for what he does is fair given his fanbase, but to take such a fight at that notice isn’t.

I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)

by BrianBrock on Oct 29, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would he take this fight? A nightmare matchup on short notice at a higher weight class? It just makes no sense. Josh has got one more shot here. He loses another fight and his days as 6 figure guy on HBO are through. Fighting Paul Williams would be insane in my opinion.

To even suggest that 3 days in the gym training for the Quintana fight would somehow make it OK for him to this fight is a gigantic stretch even if they are both southpaws.

I continue to think Bob Arum has done a horrible job promoting Clottey. Sticking him on Vs. multiple times stunted the guy’s career. It almost made too much sense for Clottey to be the cofeature of Manny-Cotto. Instead, he bungled that undercard up tremendously and now the only guy in his stable he could put with the winner (longshot) or loser of that fight in with is without a fight for over half a year.

Instead of progressing a talented, top 5 welterweight that HBO loves, Clottey is going to end up fighting Jesus Soto Karass on a Chavez Jr. undercard if he is lucky.

by BabyBull1289 on Oct 30, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would he take this fight?

Because it’s by far the best payday and opponent he’s going to get.

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by SC on Oct 30, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its also a safe fight. No one would blame him for getting beat. No pressure. Tons of opportunity.

by ryanwk628 on Oct 30, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much. Him losing to PW would probably have me going, “Clottey again showed giant balls even taking this fight,” and if he won, well, welcome to the next level, Joshua.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 30, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bobfather does well with some

But with the guys who let him get away with it, he really lets their careers flag to set them up as being opponents for his other name fighters. Clottey, Humberto Soto and Mario Santiago immediately come to mind.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 30, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs


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