David Tua manhandles Shane Cameron, stops him in two
by SC on Oct 3, 2009 11:51 AM EDT
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Surprise, surprise, surprise: David Tua ripped through New Zealand rival Shane Cameron, scoring a second round knockout to notch the 50th win and 43rd by way of stoppage in his career.
Tua (50-3-1, 43 KO) was expected by most, I think, who were outside of New Zealand to do essentially what he did. Like I said the other day, Tua is a world-traveled former top contender, and Cameron (23-2, 20 KO) had no wins of any real repute. The 31-year old Cameron has fought his entire career in New Zealand against scrubs and also-rans for a very good reason.
But that's not to discredit Tua's power, which was still monstrous in 2007 and likely remains so today. He came in at a fit 237 pounds on the scales, and the 36-year old veteran rocked Cameron in the first round, with likely only the bell saving Cameron from going down any quicker than he did. The next round, Cameron was still on bad legs, and Tua finished him off.
So went "The Fight of the Century" for New Zealand. This bout was a $40 pay-per-view down there.
Tua says he wants a world title shot in 2010, but whatever. Yeah, he's still dangerous with those big left hooks, but he also hasn't beaten anyone of note since 2002, a year in which he knocked out Fres Oquendo in nine and also a washed-up Michael Moorer in 30 seconds. He could rattle Wladimir Klitschko's chin for sure, but he'd have to reach him first, and it's probably not happening. If David Haye beats Nikolai Valuev and then John Ruiz, I'd be up for Haye-Tua given Haye's vulnerability, and a fight between Tua and Chris Arreola sounds like fun, too. Tua still has plenty to offer the heavyweight division, it's just not as a Klitschko challenger.
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God Bless David Tua… provided us with John Ruiz’s best fight…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Oct 3, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my homey from NZ was pumped for this, and it seems as if the nz people are stoked about the tua domination. tua-arreola wouldn’t last very long but it would be one hell of a HW fight
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 3, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree
i think Arreola-Tua would be fun… Make it happen. Also Tua’s got some power but Damn those are some short arms…
by asmiley420 on Oct 3, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shot for single shot, Tua ranks very very highly in the power department among the heavyweights. Not just in the last ten, twenty years or so, but all time, in my opinion. But yes, his reach is kind of sad.
by Areglado on Oct 3, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a massive fight over here in NZ. Everyone was talking about it but everyone that knew anything about boxing knew it would end fast tho the media did a great job at building Cameron’s chances and anyone who just watched in passing thought Shane would win.
"Good, so it can’t go any deeper." - Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
by sigidy on Oct 3, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Brickhaus on Oct 3, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
Still swinging the meathooks.
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by SC on Oct 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he hasn’t lost anything at all. thats the 2nd round. the first round onslaught was even more brutal.
i had the vid posted in fan shots, youtube took it down already.
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by sonofapsycho on Oct 3, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he looks about the same. I wonder where his stamina is at though, since, obviously, we can’t really tell from this fight. I was surprised though how quick his hands were on the inside.
Tua’s always been one of my favorites. Seems like a nice guy too, which is kind of cute… cute like a giant killer Samoan teddy bear. If I could make a David Tua toy, I’d give it the “poke his belly and see him launch a monster-decapitating left hook” feature. Comes with grass skirt and flower lay. Poor opponent with removable head sold separately.
by Areglado on Oct 3, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You reminded me of this clip;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MWBKLclgs&feature=related
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by Chaos100 on Oct 3, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Respectfully, I believe this will be Shane’s last fight. I’m really gonna hurt you (Shane)…you know…and I just appreciate you for allowing me that opportunity.”
- David Tua
Hahahaha
You could tell from this video that David was already rearing to go…
by Areglado on Oct 3, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that could have been ray mercer like if it had been the referee from the smith fight last night
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 3, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just another poor bastard that didn’t know what to do once they discovered that they couldn’t hurt Tua nor take his power…
If Tua was just a couple inches taller I’d give him a shot against a Klitschko. His weight for this fight was the best it’s been in years.
by Areglado on Oct 3, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he looks like he’s in great shape…. he should really avoid the klitsckos. They will toy with him..
by asmiley420 on Oct 3, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of arreola
cristobal should look at tua, and see what getting back into shape can do for a fighte
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 3, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cameron was out when the first left hook landed. After the second KD Cameron took few seconds to respond to the ref and then the ref called time (for no reason) and then before they restarted the bell went to end the round. It should of been a first round KO.
It wasn’t good to pay up my $40NZD but i made $20 off my mate that bet against me. It was the easiest $20 i have ever made haha
"Good, so it can’t go any deeper." - Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
by sigidy on Oct 3, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Tua-Sam Peter.
A win there is another step up the ladder for Tua. Good to have him back, and by all accounts, he’s a class act.
by SmittytheCutman on Oct 3, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tua by mid round KO. We’ve already seen Sam Peter get hurt, dropped. The only time I’ve ever seen Tua down is when he was hit while off balance (vs Rahman?). I’ve never seen Tua close to being hurt. Sam doesn’t have the height or reach to keep Tua off of him, neither does he have the boxing skill to keep Tua at the end of a jab. Should be a pretty entertaining short fight though, for those who just want to see a KO.
by Areglado on Oct 3, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was ages and ages ago, but Tua was demolished by Felix Savon
I actually think Peter would outbox Tua though, presuming the pre-McCline Peter shows up. Peter has enough power to keep Tua off of him.
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by Brickhaus on Oct 3, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will never know how good Savon would have been in the pros…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Oct 3, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
provided he kept his motivation
Which has been a problem for Cuban heavyweights, I think he would have been an all-time great. Lewis and prime Bowe would have given him problems, but he would have been elite. People ask what could have been with Ibeabuchi, but Savon is the much greater injustice. Teofilo Stevenson is the other.
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by Brickhaus on Oct 3, 2009 11:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
savon is not even in the same stratosphere as stevenson. he may have equaled his gold medal record but teo was the far better fighter and had much more power.
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by sonofapsycho on Oct 4, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually not much more power but savon, savon had a good right hand as well. but i think teo would have toyed with and ko’ed savon
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by sonofapsycho on Oct 4, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We also don’t know how good their chins would be… we also have to mention that….
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Oct 4, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looked a bit like Man vs Boy though, you know? Savon at 24, Tua at 18, 19. And at the time, Tua looked nothing like the heavyweight he would become. Some guys are “grown” at 19. It didn’t look like Tua was, quite yet.
by Areglado on Oct 4, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup. that was in 91. he knocked him goofy with one right hand tua walked right into and ref stopped it when tua tried to get up.
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by sonofapsycho on Oct 4, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tua-Peter sure would be interesting
But also has the potential to be a borefest. I don’t think Arum is going to let Peter face anyone that dangerous so soon though. It looks like he’s having Peter take the Shannon Briggs route to becoming a contender again.
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by Brickhaus on Oct 3, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Who says Tua cant fight a klitscho? thats pessimistic attitude coming from a PPV watchers! The K bros are great champs sure but no 1 will ever know the results of a Tua/Klitscho fight until they actually square off in the ring. 9 out of 10 times im sure vitali or wladimir can stray clear of tua’s left hook(noting he does have brutal power in his right) but one clean hit its lights out whoever you are, so theres always a chance and someone better then the best. Now tua has that memory of losing to lennox hel be well prepared and realise his true power lies in going inside and brawling not boxing. churr
by theHeadbull on Oct 4, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nobody else has been able to get inside on the Klitschkos in recent years, and I don’t think short David Tua can do it either. But would I watch? Totally. And I’ll say I’d hope he knocks one of them out on a monster hook. Tua’s a cool dude and a lot of fun.
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by SC on Oct 4, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see how Tua could beat Vitali, unless he suddenly becomes a busy body-puncher. Tua is more of a stalking headhunter if you think about it. He slips, counters with the big left to the head and finds opportunities to repeat. He simply doesn’t have the tools to beat Vitali. Pure power isn’t going to be enough as he isn’t going to land with the necessary consistency on the nearly 6’8" (that’s a 10 inch difference in height, dude), iron-chinned elder Klitschko.
He might have a better chance against Wladimir who is far less durable than big bro and seemingly much easier to intimidate. But of course, he’s just the all around better athlete and might just toy with Tua anyway with his superior speed, agility, height and reach.
by Areglado on Oct 4, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah there’s a chance, but that’s what I thought when Tua fought Lennox and that was a beatdown, as you said. I don’t think the memory of getting tuned by Lennox does anything good for Tua.
I would like to see it though. Tua would have to get it done quickly. Really seek and destroy because if it goes past the second round, Tua will get bludgeoned by either Klit.
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by lcollins1 on Oct 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn!!!
The Power Puncher is back. Watch out Boxing DRAGOs
by Haans Bishop on Oct 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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