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Pacquiao thinks Mayweather will never fight him

Manny Pacquiao advises fans to not hold their breath waiting for a fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and himself. He doesn't think Floyd will want to fight. (Photo via www.boxnews.com.ua)

Greg Beacham of the AP reports that Manny Pacquiao doesn't see a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. happening, as he believes Floyd "doesn't want to fight."

"I don’t think it’s going to happen," Pacquiao said. "I’m sure he doesn’t want to fight."

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Mayweather’s advisers claim they haven’t ruled out a bout with Pacquiao, likely among the world’s few fighters who could match Money’s speed. But the Filipino champion has surprisingly strong opinions about why it won’t happen.

"Boxing for him is like a business," Pacquiao said. "He doesn’t care about the people around him watching. He doesn’t care if the fight is boring, as long as the fight is finished and he gets (plenty of) money. … I want people to be happy. You have a big responsibility as a boxer."

You can argue -- as Mayweather might -- that Pacquiao's view of his profession is a bit naive, but it's hard not to admire a guy that fights the way he does for the reasons he does. Should Manny get past Miguel Cotto on November 14, there is absolutely no question that Mayweather-Pacquiao is the biggest fight in boxing, and in all of combat sports for that matter. There's nothing UFC or anyone else could do that would top or equal that fight.

And to be honest, it seems like both sides don't really want a lot to do with it. I believe Pacquiao would take it in a heartbeat, but Bob Arum has been making pre-emptive excuses ever since Mayweather's return, and Floyd steadfastly refuses to even really address the Pacquiao challenge. He'll go, "I've never ducked anyone!" but he won't say, "I would fight Manny Pacquiao / Shane Mosley / anyone." Typical Floyd. Typical Arum. Typical boxing politics.

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He’s right and he’s playing it right. I think it will take some serious ‘strategery’ for Pac to get Mayweather into the ring…and probably some less than equitable concessions on Pac’s part.

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by lcollins1 on Oct 30, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Pacman would take that fight in a heartbeat and try and inject some excitement into it.

I’m a die hard Pac fan but I’ve sat for so long wondering why on Earth he would ever fight Cotto. It makes no sense at all since Cotto is little known and hardly a big draw while Pac is. Pac could probably fight a ten year old girl and sell PPV’s.

Fighting Cotto seems like the worst decision. Only his second fight in the division and he’s going up against arguably the man that has fought the best of the best in that division. Say what you will about Cotto but the man isn’t short on balls. He took that Margarito and the Clottey fight when nobody else would.

After thinking about it for a while I came to realise Pac doesn’t put on fights that he knows he will win, he doesn’t pick on smaller men to boost his profile he fights because he loves it and he loves the fans.

This kid has gone out to several different divisions and called out the best fighters in those divisions. At times hes paid for it severely bouncing up to a division he’s never thrown a punch in to take on the best in that weightclass.

He ill advisedly fought guys like Barrera, Morales, Marquez and DLH when he had no business even being in that weight class or challening those fighters in what was pretty much his introduction to that weight class.

But when you watch things like 24/7 and you see Pac pretty much in an open gym where people can come and go or when you see him around his huge entourage made up of his family and friends and you see him goofing around entertaining him you quickly come to realise he’s a very social person.

He wants people to tune in and enjoy watching his fights.

This fight against Cotto on paper is beyond stupid. He may very well get knocked out or get his ass beat. The man doesn’t belong in the same ring as Cotto with just 1 win on his record at that weightclass.

But is that fight likely to be entertaining? Hell yes!

Fact of the matter is Floyd and Pac are two different types of people. If you offered Floyd 30 million dollars to take on Stone Cold Steve Austin in a tables ladders and chairs match at Wrestlemania he’d jump on it because all he would see is the money.

Pac enjoys boxing and he enjoys the reaction he gets from people when people like those fights. The man is rising and rising in popularity yet he is determined to leave boxing next year to get into Philipino politics… that is pretty telling in itself he’d rather help his countrymen than making millions boxing.

I don’t think this fight will ever happen. Pac just wants to put on entertaining fights win or lose but all Floyd cares about is money. He wants to hype up crappy fights or pick on smaller men or those tailor made for his style.

The morons look at his 0 and think it means something. I know this is going to sound harsh but I’m glad it does. They should shoot morons who think an 0 means something in the real world.

An intelligent boxing figure once said “show me a fighter who has never been defeated and I’ll show you a fighter who has never fought anybody”. Can’t recall the name(maybe Cus).

I think Pac is definitely thinking about hanging up his gloves. He moves to the weight where he couldn’t possibly move up to another division(if he could fight at 154 he’d probably be there already) and takes on guys that would in the real world whoop his ass most likely.

He’s at the very end of his tether stretching his body to the limit at 147 and he wants to take a few exciting fights and then quit. If Floyd is too much of a coward to take the fight then Pac should just take on whoever else he can manage at 147. Or better yet move back down to a weight class he actually belongs at and put on some good fights.

Either way he wants to end his career with big, entertaining clashes from the looks of things and he wants to be remembered as a fighter that put on entertaining fights. When he retires in a year or so(probably) he will be remember as a guy who put his ass on the line in several divisions to entertain fans and then walked away from a multi million dollar making career to enter politics in a third world country(ie he wont be making a fucking penny).

Floyd.. well Floyd won’t be remember. Ali is probably the greatest fighter of all time but people don’t remember him for things like his speed or footwork they remember him for being the man he was.

Floyd.. well Floyd won’t be remember. Ali is probably the greatest fighter of all time but people don’t remember him for things like his speed or footwork they remember him for being the man he was.I’m going to end this with an Ali quote that I believe is fitting:

Floyd.. well Floyd won’t be remember. Ali is probably the greatest fighter of all time but people don’t remember him for things like his speed or footwork they remember him for being the man he was.I’m going to end this with an Ali quote that I believe is fitting:“Friendship… is not something you learn in school. But if you haven’t learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven’t learned anything”.

Floyd.. well Floyd won’t be remember. Ali is probably the greatest fighter of all time but people don’t remember him for things like his speed or footwork they remember him for being the man he was.I’m going to end this with an Ali quote that I believe is fitting:“Friendship… is not something you learn in school. But if you haven’t learned the meaning of friendship, you really haven’t learned anything”.Fighters like Pac and Ali have something men like Floyd will never be able to comprehend. Now I’m going to go read some Ali quotes lol.

by MannyPacquiao on Oct 30, 2009 3:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry about the above repeated paragraphs a bit confused about that really. You guys need an edit button! :P

by MannyPacquiao on Oct 30, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

About the edit button, since it was brought up here: The reason we don’t have it is so that people can’t go back and edit what they said if they’re wrong or whatever, or at least that’s how it’s always been explained to us. I personally don’t see that as a major issue, but that’s why we don’t have it.

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by Scott Christ on Oct 30, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even want to think about Haans Bishop's response

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by Brickhaus on Oct 30, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have to be kidding me

Cotto brings a whole nation to the PPV buys and that’s why Manny’s fighting him. Arum made this fight and it is all because of him that it is occurring. Manny is just doing Arum a favor at this point.

I still think this is great news. Now that Manny has said he doesn’t fight for the money we can finally get the fight done. No complaining who gets the bigger split. Heck just for the fans Manny can get 0% and I’m sure Mayweather won’t pass that up.

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by J Theory on Oct 30, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now that Manny has said he doesn’t fight for the money we can finally get the fight done. No complaining who gets the bigger split.

Or he’ll look like an ass if you reference this statement of his when he starts playing hardball on the split like he did with Ricky Hatton.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Oct 30, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think he was there personally negotiating the deal with lawyers or do you think it was the people representing the business side of things?

Boxers don’t negotiate shit they put on gloves and hit each other.

Not to say it was right though. Hatton was doing the same job as Pac so why would he ever except even 0.0001% less? It would just be insulting to Hatton so I’m not defending it but the point I am making is they probably wanted as much as they could get if they saw it as any type of risk.

by MannyPacquiao on Oct 30, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I’ve not read the PPV figures for Puerto Rico in Cottos fights so I’ll admit I don’t know the situation but Cotto has never done a draw bigger than 300K last time I checked while Pac hit pretty high figures twice within 6 months of each other.

Point is I don’t think Pacman is in a situation where he can’t make big money fights. Going up against Cotto though is retarded if its from a money perspective because it’s too much of a risk for too little gain.

A lot of people see this fight as being an extremely close affair. If Pac comes out of this with a war on his hands and gets hurt or beat what do you think it will do to him?

Pac could go fight Marquez at 147 and tear him a new asshole at a weight class he doesn’t belong at and do similar figures to Cotto IMO.

If he’s just after money why doesn’t he use his drawing power to get smaller men to face him at 147? Surely guys like Cotto and Mosley would beat Pac at 147 but guys like Marquez would be a much smaller risk.

by MannyPacquiao on Oct 30, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cotto has never done a draw bigger than 300K last time I checked

Cotto-Margarito did about 450K on PPV which was considered a great success.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Oct 31, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s hilarious how each paragraph grows by one sentence. It’s like the kids’ song “B-I-N-G-O” (although I guess that’s in reverse).

by taco pal on Oct 30, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a surprise...

Before they have an opportunity to do drastically fewer numbers than FMM, and then demand 60-40 split and get turned down the Pacman camp already turns down floyd. Afterward there will be the expected ‘Floyd didn’t want to fight me….blah blah blah.’ Let me spell this out for you. Freddie Roach is scared of FMM. He has no game plan to beat him. Top Rank and Manny have tried to sabotage this fight since FMM beat down JMM. Stop being distracted by Floyd, because you are going to have your hands full with Cotto. You might look bad against Cotto, like really bad, but you still deserve to earn more than Money…..

by Waldo Rastel on Oct 30, 2009 5:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Manny would knock JMM unconcious

at the bloated weight that Floyd wouldn’t even make to fight him. Lol to call Floyd a coward when Money has been exposed as a coward for the entire 2nd half of his career.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 31, 2009 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

to call Manny a coward when Money has

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 31, 2009 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might be silly here

but Manny might just want to concentrate on the guy he’s going to fight in a few weeks.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Oct 30, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

LMAO...

While I don’t doubt that Manny has a desire to please the fans, he and Floyd are not that different. Why wasn’t it Manny Pacquio who was stalling negotiations with Ricky Hatton over MONEY? Yeah I think it was. His desire to please the fans is definitely trumped by his desire to GET PAID just like everybody else.

Floyd is not afraid to fight anybody as long as the money is right.

Fact of the matter is Floyd and Pac are two different types of people. If you offered Floyd 30 million dollars to take on Stone Cold Steve Austin in a tables ladders and chairs match at Wrestlemania he’d jump on it because all he would see is the money.

You could replace the Stone Cold wrestling match with ANY boxer today and Floyd would take that fight for 30 mil. I guarantee it. No smart boxer who is any good will take matches just to please the fans. You know why Shane wants to fight Floyd? MONEY. Why did Mayweather want ODH? MONEY. Why does Pacman want Floyd? MONEY.

Don’t buy into this BS about how some guy is doing shit for the fans. Boxers don’t care about you or legacies, they care about money. And why shouldn’t they? Boxing is a tough sport and if you get hit alot there is a good chance that damage will come back to haunt you when you’re older. Might as well be rich from it.

by erod on Oct 30, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree about the money

Spot on with Manny and his negotiations over money with Ricky. Money is definitely the top motivating factor for boxers, and the reason why they would put their health on the line like you mention. However, it’s not as absolute as you mention, and I’m sure they do care about fans and legacy, just not as much as money. For example, it’s for his legacy that Floyd wants to stay undefeated.

by Polish Rifle on Oct 30, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boxers don’t care about you or legacies, they care about money.

I will agree that they care about money first, as well they should. But let’s not pigeonhole every fighter into this cold businessman figure who cares nothing about his fans or his legacy, because many of them truly aren’t that way.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Oct 30, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shane Mosley is at the tailend of his career. I’d take that fight if I was him too.

There are a lot of factors in fights being made and nobody is so naive to think money isn’t a factor but there is a difference between only caring about money and taking fights to entertain fans.

But you are wrong in saying boxers take fights just for the money. Look at when Mosley fought Vernon. That fight was anything but for money.. in a risk for reward scenario that fight was downright retarded he was risking it all for a guy that was never a draw but a hell of a fighter.

It’s the same with guys that fought Winky Wright. Winky Wright was never a draw and he was a serious pain in the ass for other fighters yet some took him on.

Ali build his entire career around fighting guys that nobody else would take on. He fought anybody that came in his way.

Let me ask you something though.

If you were a boxer wouldn’t you care at all about how people remember you? Do you want people to remember you for the way you were or for the money you made?

Boxing is a big business now but it certainly doesn’t revolve around money completely and I don’t think it ever will. Thats a job somebody would quit after the first paycheck if they could.

by MannyPacquiao on Oct 30, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny doing to much!!

We all know Manny really humble but money getting to everyone including Mayweather!! I am a Mayweather fan to the heart but I do respect Manny for sure! But really I think Mayweather would beat Manny easily but Manny always has a chance cause he does have power! But neither one wants to do 50-50 I would wait until the numbers of the PPV come in and if Manny wins and the numbers are high then 50-50 might happen which is allot of money to both sides! I think they should go 4o-4- and the winner get the 20% extra! I honestly think the only one that could beat Mayweather is Paul WIlliams if he could make the weight! After Floyd fights Manny, Mosley and win he will fight Paul Williams if the Money is right! Trust me Floyd will fight anyone if the Money is right! LOL

by baller4life on Oct 30, 2009 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

On your mark .. Get set...

Now the war talks have officially started . This is what wanted to hear from Pacman himself and not from the promoters and trainers.

2010 it’s going down … The Streets are watching!!

Mayweather vs Pacman

by Haans Bishop on Oct 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I cannot respect Floyd...

I know he’s immensely talented, but when he’s playing dodgeball with guys like Cottp, PacMan and Mosley, it’s hard to say this guy is an “all time great,” you know?

It’d be like it Kelly Pavlik does little else in his career. I think Pavlik’s got a world of talent but it’s been wasted these last few years.

And for the record, I’m not saying Mayweather and Pavlik are on the same plain.

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by hakimdropstheball on Oct 30, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

All time great in talent

Amongst the all-time worst in heart and balls.

That’s how Floyd will be remembered.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 31, 2009 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is a shame

I’ve been thinking that he could have taken some more fights at welter against big names which would have been quite easily winnable. Margarito was/is considered one of the top 5 welters in the world and wouldn’t have been able to land clean on Mayweather. Mayweather would have dominated him like the dominated Corrales.

Cotto would have been harder but not that much harder. Mayweather’s defense, speed and especially, in my opinion, his footwork would have made him very elusive and a real struggle for Cotto. Most probably a points decision win by a rather wide margin.

And there you go, now we wouldn’t be saying Mayweather is very skilled but he ducks people at welter. we would be saying Mayweather is very skilled and look how he owned at welter. I see it as a great shame that he won’t take on sterner opposition because he really is incredibly talented and a great boxer. It is sad to see a legacy so tainted when it could be so impressive.

by Drunken cutman on Oct 31, 2009 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want to see Pacquiao fighting Mayweather

I want to see Pacquiao fighting Mayweather rather than that of Puerto Rican Cotto. I know Cotto is fierce and tough but he is no much to Pacquiao’s superiority in terms of experience, speed, and strength. I heard that the only weakness of Pacquiao is when he is pinned down in the ropes but I see this as not so disturbing considering his footwork. I just love him because he always has something surprising every time he fights. Cotto will just be knocked out I think.

So the great talk is really about the two pound-for-pound boxers: Pacquiao and Mayweather. I think last time Sugar Rey Mosley is provoking Mayweather to fight him but again he is no match with Mayweather. So whatever happen, whether Mayweather accepts the fight versus Mosley, the great battle is still between the two pound-for-pound. I really do not know when this will happen but I am sure that this will be a fight of the century.

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by KayaCamilla on Oct 31, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

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