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Could the Super Six land Chad Dawson to replace Jermain Taylor?

Is light heavyweight titlist Chad Dawson looking to move down in weight? Dawson says he'd love to replace Jermain Taylor in the Super Six World Boxing Classic. (Photo via assets.nydailynews.com)

The word going around boxing today is that if Jermain Taylor drops out of the Super Six World Boxing Classic following his opening stage knockout loss to Arthur Abraham, Showtime may well have a big trick up its sleeve to replace him: Light heavyweight titleholder "Bad" Chad Dawson.

Dawson is saying he'd be thrilled to drop down in weight to take Taylor's spot if it opened up.

"I think it is a great idea. I talked to Gary a few times about getting in if Taylor does drop out. I'd love to take part."

Gary Shaw, Dawson's promoter, seems stoked on the idea, too:

"I know he'd be welcomed into the tourney and would win it convincingly," said Shaw, "even though I have Andre Dirrell."

Shaw also, for what it's worth, said that Dawson is the "most talented fighter out there today, bar none" and that he believes one day Dawson will win a title at heavyweight.

This kind of puts into focus just how big this tournament is to the boxers. Yeah, Dawson would have limited options if he beats Glen Johnson in their November 7 rematch, and though light heavyweight has gotten better and younger gradually, a convincing win over Johnson leaves Dawson with Bernard Hopkins or bust, and Bernard is tied up and about to turn 45. Unless Joe Calzaghe broke his retirement to fight Dawson -- which will not happen -- there's just not much to go after. And there's more money if he can drop down to 168 than there is going up to cruiserweight.

Were Dawson to replace Taylor, not only are you likely really strengthening the field, but that means you have one undefeated titleholder who came up in weight (Arthur Abraham) and you'd have another willing to come down in weight for this tournament.

For those wondering about Dawson's TV rights, HBO only has him on a two-fight deal, and fight number two is the Johnson rematch. If HBO "loses" Chad Dawson back to Showtime, they will have spent a lot of money and received essentially no return. The Antonio Tarver rematch they had to pay for, while bidding against themselves, was a disaster, and while Dawson-Johnson II is a much better fight, I don't think it's a whole lot bigger.

Another note about Dawson-Johnson II: Dawson, who is from Connecticut (where the fight is taking place), will honor slain UConn football player Jasper Howard by wearing Howard's No. 6 on his trunks for the bout.

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Dawson should be looing up and not down

He’s pretty svelte at 175, and (I know I’m in the minority here) but I actually agree that he has the frame to be a force at heavyweight someday if he so desires. At 168, he’d be so weight drained that his endurance and balance and punch resistance would be much worse, and he’d probably end up looking pretty bad. I realize there isn’t a big fight available at 200 other than maybe an Adamek rematch, but long-term, he’d be better off trying to get the Jones-Hopkins winner, stepping up for a few fights at 200, let his weight grow organically, putting on about 5 or 6 pounds of muscle the right way for each fight, and working his way up to about 220 where he could make some serious coin.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 30, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

and (I know I’m in the minority here) but I actually agree that he has the frame to be a force at heavyweight someday if he so desires.

Count me in there, too.

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by Scott Christ on Oct 30, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a naturally bigger guy than:

- Evander Holyfield
- Michael Moorer
- Chris Byrd
- Sultan Ibragimov
- Ruslan Chagaev

My main fear is that if he does it too quickly, he’ll end up with wobbly chicken legs.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 30, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

either way

up or down in weight it makes more sense than staying where he is for much longer. Also a rematch with Adamek would be brilliant for both men at HW as far as making a proper statement in that division is concerned.

by Drunken cutman on Oct 30, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also a rematch with Adamek would be brilliant for both men at HW as far as making a proper statement in that division is concerned.

Good point.

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by Matt Miller on Oct 31, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s about the same size as Byrd and as heavy a puncher. Moorer was a huge puncher at light heavy; Dawson isn’t. The other three guys are much larger. They all competed at 178 or 201 as amateurs. Dawson fought in the ams at 165 and turned pro at 160.

by VirtualBalboa on Oct 30, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

If he does move up, Dawson-Fragomeni or Dawson-Huck would both be fantastic fights, if they could get a US channel to put up rights for it.

At LHW, I’d still like to see Dawson-Pascal or Dawson-Cloud, but neither of those is a big money fight either. If Dawson’s willing to travel a bit and can get HBO to agree to air fights on tape delay, he could still make good money at cruiser.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 30, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

You can see that HBO are trying to build Dawson as a star, but it doesn’t seem to be catching on. If Dawson irons out his strategic flaws against Johnson from the first fight and sticks and moves his way to a decision (which is the smart approach), his profile won’t have moved one bit.

Mind you, if HBO keep throwing money at him, I’m not sure he’ll care.

You’d think that Dawson vs Cloud would be an all-American battle to capture the imagination, though – surely HBO could hype that.

by Falstaff on Oct 30, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Cloud has no name value except for hardcore fans… Both fighter can’t draw flies and it is hard to hype those type of fighters.

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by Zocalo on Oct 31, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Dawson; good fundamentals and athleticism. But he’s not a breakout guy at 175, and its a weight class with no real stars. He went there chasing money from the aging names knowing that he wasn’t gonna get fights at 168, but this would be an opening for that kind of money. Its where he belongs; he doesn’t cut for 175. he turned pro at 160, and his power at light heavy isn’t anywhere near devastating.

I expect it won’t happen just because it would be the best imaginable scenario. I’d like to be wrong, though.

by VirtualBalboa on Oct 30, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

This would be awesome

and I think the only time for Chad to do it is now while he is young. Im biased (from CT) but I think he would add a whole new dimension to this tournament and have a real shot at winning it

by ryanwk628 on Oct 30, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

yo where did my comment go?

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by battle axe of doom on Oct 31, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

dunno, dude

I do most of the comment moderating and I wasn’t here tonight. Mighta got swallowed by the system. If so, sincere apologies.

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by Scott Christ on Oct 31, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

no problem i think its SBNation. the texans blog had a disappearing comments scandal last week too

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by battle axe of doom on Oct 31, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyways… I don’t think DeBella would allow a Shaw fighter to replace his fighter in the tournament.

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by Zocalo on Oct 31, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

It might not have much to do with DiBella. What can Lou do? “Hey I know my first guy was a dud, but here’s the always-reliable Allan Green!”

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by Scott Christ on Oct 31, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. There has to be something in the contract with each promoter that the public is unaware of. But each promoter got to put their “stud” into this race. If one of their fighters drops out then the promoter shouldn’t get a retry.

As for Bad Chad Dawson. I think he deserves a chance to show the world what he is made of. I think this tournament is everything he has been looking for in the past 2 years. He couldn’t call out Hopkins or Calzaghe. If he were to beat Glen Johnson I say stick him in there. I’d rather see an emaciated Dawson at 168 over a full strength Allan Green.

by MatteoFC on Oct 31, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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