Bob Arum wants to see Mayweather-Mosley
BoxingScene.com spoke with Top Rank's Bob Arum, and the legendary promoter says he wants to see a fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Shane Mosley, and that 60-40 for Mayweather against Manny Pacquiao will not happen.
"60-40? That’s music to my ears. If I start hearing 60-40, that just tells me to hang up and move on to the next guy."
On Mayweather's guts:
"I think Cotto probably beats Mayweather. I think Manny probably beats Mayweather and I think Mosley beats Mayweather. I think Shane Mosley, because of his style, has the best chance to beat Mayweather. The fight that should be made is Mayweather and Shane Mosley. But Mayweather won’t take that fight. He won’t take any fight where there is any possibility where he might lose. Money is secondary with him. He will not take a chance like a normal fighter. He cares more about his legacy and being able to retire undefeated, so he could say that he never lost a fight."
Arum has long held this belief, and he's hardly alone. Mayweather claims to this day that Arum never allowed him to become the star he felt he could have been, and the star he has actually become since 2007. But Arum has said that Mayweather didn't have the balls to take the biggest fights out there. Like most things, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle. He rematched a Jose Luis Castillo who clearly had a chance at beating him, and many felt Mayweather would lose to Diego Corrales years ago, which of course he did not. Mayweather also went up to junior middleweight to take on Oscar de la Hoya, and there was a genuine chance he'd lose that fight, too.
To be honest, it kind of sounds like Arum is positioning himself to not sacrifice the Cotto-Pacquiao winner to Mayweather. You may well feel that the winner of that fight could or would beat Mayweather, and I think either of them would have a decent enough shot, but frankly I favor Floyd against either man, and pretty heavily. That's just my opinion, but I'm sure there are many who agree.
And unless Cotto-Pacquiao equals the Mayweather-Marquez buys, 60-40 Floyd is the split for Mayweather-Pacquiao, and it's hard to argue that that shouldn't be the split. That's just business, and Mayweather at this point drives a lot more of it in the States than Manny does. They have three common opponents, and Floyd has done better with all of them. Floyd-Oscar did 2.4 million, Oscar-Manny did 1.25. Floyd-Marquez did a million, Marquez-Manny II did about 400K. Floyd-Hatton outdrew Manny-Hatton, though that one was fairly close.
It's just going to be hard for Arum to sell Mayweather on the idea that he shouldn't be getting a bigger piece of the pie, and for some reason it smells fishy to me. Bob has to know that Mayweather is the bigger star and moneymaker. And why is he so keen on Mayweather-Mosley? Perhaps because he really does feel that Mosley has the best shot to beat Floyd, and then he can make a much easier deal with Golden Boy for Mosley against the Cotto-Pacquiao winner.
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Arum is saying Mosley because he knows both of his guys would lose.
And Cotto would lose badly. He’s a plodder who uses his face as defense. Pac has a shot but Floyd would and should be the significant favorite. Arum knows Floyd deserves more and he clearly is avoiding that fact. Floyd has options: he can fight the Berto/Mosley winner, and if the JMM fight is an indicator, he would draw a lot with either (Berto’s profile raises with a marquee win in Mosley). Manny on the other hand has who? Arum was throwing out Khan and Valero, both of whom are nowhere near his level and wouldn’t draw anything in America.
by gunranger on Oct 7, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pac a significant favorite?
Are you serious? Manny “I will punch more than you will and that counts as defense” Pacquiao a favorite against Floyd “I’m so much faster than you its embarrassing” Mayweather. Yeah take a superposition of the JMM and the Ricky Hatton fight, and thats what the Floyd v Pacman will look like. Basically Cotto has a much better chance at beating Pacman than pacman has at beating Floyd. Frankly, Cotto probably has a better chance at beating Floyd, than pac-man (its a styles issue). And that wording is strange but re-reading that post you probably meant that Floyd is a favorite, which means we agree! Huzzah!
by waldo47 on Oct 7, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey i got it eventually…..I could have just posted something completely incomprehensible…
by waldo47 on Oct 8, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cotto drools, pacquiao rules
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 8, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Brickhaus on Oct 8, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then if Pacquiao beats him, big whoop!
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by SC on Oct 8, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mosley-Mayweather is the only money may fight i would GLADLY pay to see any time soon.
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by battle axe of doom on Oct 7, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would probably favor Mayweather over Cotto, but not by a ton. Cotto has some defensive flaws, but it’s not as if Jose Luis Castillo was some sort of defensive genius either, Yet Castillo stayed highly competitive (at the very least) with Mayweather, twice. You have to be very good to beat Mayweather, but you don’t necessarily have to be perfect.
by taco pal on Oct 7, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mayweather plays keepaway from Cotto and wins a UD. He KOs Pacquiao when Manny gets frustrated by his inability to hit Mayweather and opens up too much. Not even Bob Arum believes half the shit Bob Arum says.
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by jsims2 on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
please lads;
1) here i am, back again, week on wed. though its flying for a combo of froh ch/dirrell followed by (hopefully) job interviews. i saw froch in ct/mgm. come on then forest
2) lets fuckin have it
by cloughie on Oct 8, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like most things, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
A Shane Mosley fight simply doesn’t interest Mayweather because he knows that fight will not make as much money as a Pacquiao fight or possible Cotto fight.
Sure Mayweather probably has been picking some of his fights but who (boxer or their handlers) hasn’t picked their fights? After all these guys are not fighter as consistently often like boxing legend Julio Ceasar Chavez.
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by VeeisAnimated on Oct 8, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
60/40 Mayweather
LINE’EM UP and it’s Lights Out. None of those guys can out think him in the ring.
by Haans Bishop on Oct 8, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What are you talijg about???
Valero could smash him in 2!
by Drunken cutman on Oct 8, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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