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Bad Left Hook's Best of the Decade: Cruiserweight

Toney and Jirov squared off for what was likely the best fight in the history of the weight class.

Toney and Jirov squared off for what was likely the best fight in the history of the weight class.

Now that 2009 is getting close to wrapping up, it means this decade is almost over.  Before the end of the year, I hope to get through all the weight classes, presenting to you some choices for the best fighter in a given weight class in the decade.  I'm not going in any particular order here, but we'll get through all 17 weight classes. 

When voting, please only consider the time that the fighter was in the specified weight class during this decade.

I'm leading off with the cruiserweights.  While the 200 pound limit may not be the most glamorous of weight classes, the 2000's are the strongest decade in its short history (and the only decade in their history when the limit was 200), and there are a lot of legitimate candidates for the best of the decade.  And the candidates are:

Tomasz Adamek - Adamek is the Johnny-come-lately here and has the shortest resume of the bunch, only fighting seven times at the weight and going undefeated.  However, three of those wins are about as good as anyone's on here, including a unification win over Steve Cunningham to become lineal champ, as well as victories over O'Neil Bell and tough prospect Johnathon Banks.  While he does have another fight coming up, that should not affect his standing as it's a heavyweight bout against fellow Pole Andrew Golota.

O'Neil Bell - Jamaican-born Bell has one of the more established resumes of the bunch, partly by virtue of having fought the entire decade in what is often thought of as a tweener weight class.  Bell went 19-2 in the division, with a number of fights over top dogs.  The pinnacle of his career came when he defeated Jean Marc Mormeck to unify the titles and become the lineal champ of the weight class.  Other prominent wins included Dale Brown, Kelvin Davis, Arthur WIlliams (twice), Derrick Harmon, Ezra Sellers and Jason Robinson.  His two losses both came at the tail end of his career, one in the rematch with Mormeck, and the other to Tomasz Adamek.

David Haye - Haye made his professional debut as a cruiserweight within the decade, so while he does sport a 20-1 record, that record can be somewhat deceptive.  Still, even when he was a prospect, he was challenged with tough matches, and sometimes even challenged too much, as evidenced by his loss to former champ Carl Thompson.  Eventually, he would reach the pinnacle, becoming a lineal and unified champ, first by defeating Jean Marc Mormeck, and then by further unifying with Enzo Maccaranelli.  Other good wins include future titlist Giacobbe Fragomeni, Alexander Gurov and Vincenzo Rositto.

Vassily Jirov - Jirov went 11-1 as a cruiserweight in the 200's before attempting to move up to heavyweight.  In that time, he ran off five defenses of his IBF title before losing it in a close fight of the year against James Toney.  Prominent victories include those over Jorge Fernando Castro, Julian Letterlough, Adolpho Washington and Terry McGroom, although most of those fighters were near or at the end of their tether when they faced Jirov.

Jean Marc Mormeck - Mormeck went 11-2 in the weight class, and for much of the latter half of the decade, was at or near the top of the cruiserweight top 10 lists.  Impressive victories include his rematch win over O'Neil Bell, a unification victory over Wayne Braithwaite, a pair of wins over Virgil Hill and victories over Dale Brown and Alexander Gurov.  Of his two losses, one was avenged (Bell) and the other was to another guy on this list, David Haye.

Johnny Nelson -The "Entertainer" whose nickname was about a bad of a misnomer as it comes, was a dominant force in the cruiserweight division all the way to his retirement, going 9-0-1 in the 2000's, all but one of which were title defenses.  Victories included Vincenzo Canatore, Marcelo Fabian Dominguez and Ruediger May, and his draw was over the always tough Guillermo Jones.

James Toney - In Toney's favor, he was undefeated from 2000 - 2003 when he was in the cruiserweight division, going 8-0.  While he didn't exactly fight a murderer's row of boxers, he did manage to culminate his run in the weight class by winning a belt from Vassily Jirov in a fight of the year.  Outside of Jirov, his prominent victories included Jason Robinson and Saul Montana.

Others not included in the poll: Juan Carlos Gomez (only 4 fights in the 2000s at the weight), Virgil Hill, Guillermo Jones, Carl Thompson

Poll
Who was the best cruiserweight of the 2000's?
Tomasz Adamek
499 votes
O'Neil Bell
10 votes
David Haye
55 votes
Vassily Jirov
13 votes
Jean Marc Mormeck
9 votes
Johnny Nelson
3 votes
James Toney
38 votes
Other (please specify in the comments)
6 votes

633 votes | Poll has closed

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Bell
Mormeck

I have to have Haye at #1, as H2H I think he beats anyone else. I loved O’Neil Bell in a way I could never love Haye as a fighter, but I feel a prime Haye beats a prime Bell in an absolutely amazing fight….

Mormeck just scrapes into my top 3 ahead of Adamek, whose best wins came against men slightly past their best….

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on Oct 8, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I went with O’Neil Bell. The support for Adamek kind of surprises me, to be honest, given that his two best wins are Steve Cunningham and a past-it Bell, and he had some trouble with Johnathon Banks, who promptly fled to heavyweight.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 8, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m sorry, but I have to call a friendly “bullshit” here. How the hell does a “Bad Left Hook’s Best of the Decade: Cruiserweight” list go up and Juan Carlos Gomez is not on it? JC is not only the best cruiser to fight in this decade, but is a legitimate “All Time Great” in that division.

I don’t sling that ATG stuff around lightly either, but in this young division he is certainly exactly that. Undefeated in his division with ten title defenses against prime opponents with excellent professional and amateur records. Gomez is up there in the same league as Holyfield and Qawi as far as the Cruiserweight class goes. It is simply not credible to include dudes on this poll like Tomasz Adamek and Vassily Jirov and not one of the greatest Cruisers in history.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 8, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JCG fought at cruiser four times this decade.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 8, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So?

Toney fought seven cans/also-rans and Jirov in this decade. If you just went by how much someone fought, Maccaranelli would be in this list. Gomez defended the title 4 times, which equals almost half of his total defenses. These included a defense against a former titlist and two Olympians. He is unquestionably one of the top five cruisers of all time. Excluding him from of a poll of “Greatest Cruisers of the 00’s” is just too weird for words…. you can’t even consider him?

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 8, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can consider him. There’s an “other” option. Pietro Aurino was an also-ran, Jorge Fernando Castro was a blown-up middleweight whose record was largely built in the forgiving rings of Argentina, Imamu Mayfield had gone 1-1-1 in his last three fights prior to JCG, and Mohamed Siluvangi lost basically every fight for the rest of his career after Gomez, and was a light heavy prior to Gomez. JCG’s 2000s record isn’t exactly stellar, either. I’m not telling you how to think, nor did I nominate anyone or not nominate anyone for this post, but I really don’t see Gomez’s exclusion as a grand travesty. Frankly the division has gotten markedly better (IMO) since he stepped up, which is not his doing or any reflection of him, just kind of how it went.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 9, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just say what;s in my heart and in my head, and mostly what’s in my head. Pietro Aurino was an Olympian. Siluvangi was RUINED by Gomez…. did you see that fight? Mayfield was worth about twenty-five “Vincenzo Rosittos” and four-hundred “Wesley Martins”… who Toney was fighting at around the same time. I don’t know if it is a “grand travesty” but it is a silly exclusion. 2000 and 2001 were part of the ’00’s. They were 1/5 of them.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, I don’t know why I’m arguing with you, I didn’t even make the list and I don’t exactly disagree with you. I wouldn’t vote for him, but that’s not the point you’re making.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 9, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right. I’m not saying “he should automatically win.” I’m saying it’s bizarre to not include him in the poll. People can fairly weigh what he did in this “decade”, given that many fighters do their best work while spanning to arbitrary 10 year periods. It just seems ridiculous to exclude him altogether, when most boxing heads would rightly say that he is the mostly talented fighter to have fought in the cruiserweight division from 2000-2009.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"spanning two arbitrary 10 year periods"

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"David Haye" on the list?

But not Gomez. Who did Haye slay at Cruiser? Jean Paul Mormeck and a bunch of clowns. The list is so thin that “Vincenzo Rossitto” gets a mention as a marquis victim. Bananas! Gomez even defended the crown more in the ’00’s than Haye. Not hard when you did it a total of twice.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 8, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Not hard when you did it a total of twice."

Once, I mean.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 8, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Jean Paul Mormeck"

Jean MARC Mormeck. Jeez, I am both drunk and outraged… egads!

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 8, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Extremely difficult call. Toney over Jirov was the most captivating cruiserweight title fight, but the most impressive significant cruiserweight moment of the decade was Bell’s KO over Mormeck in their first fight. That might give the edge to Bell, but

(1) he got, in my view, a gift decision against Dale Brown (who got wrecked every other time he stepped up in class)
(2) he wasted his talent with bizarre behavior outside the ring
(3) he lost the rematch with Mormeck

I voted Mormeck. Haye has more talent and a win over Mormeck, but Mormeck accomplished more over the span of the decade.

I've joined the truculentsia.

by Varry Galk on Oct 9, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is a really, really tough call. I strongly considered Mormeck, Toney, and then jrok got me re-thinking Gomez, who I would vote for based purely on talent but personally I’m looking more at resume here.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 9, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tend to think that “Gomez sets the pace” or the decade, and then you have gauge by him. Tha’s why is seems so ridiculous that he isn’t in the poll… At the very least he is the pace car agianst which everyone else is measured.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"for the decade"

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I’ll remember this when I put together the 108 pound list, and be sure to put Finito up there even though he only had 2 fights in the decade.

I went back and forth on whether to put Gomez up there, but his record in the 2000s was just not very good. Next time I’ll err on the side of overinclusion. But I’m pretty likely to miss people here or there, just because I might forget a person or two as we go through this.

I’m surprised at the voting generally, so maybe I’m out of touch. I actually went with Mormeck, but Haye, Toney and Adamek being the leaders tells me that people are voting on a head to head basis a lot more than on a resume basis. That’s fine, and if I knew that would be the case, then I certainly would have included Gomez on the poll. If this was the ’90’s, he’s be at or near the top of the list.

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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Oct 9, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but his record in the 2000s was just not very good

It wasn’t “not very good.” It just wasn’t very long. Gomez had four title defenses. Toney fought four more cruiser fights than Gomez in this decade, but apart from Jirov they were all gimmes and sucker bets. Toney’s cruiser record in this century was “not very good.”

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That said, it is ludicrous that (of the choices available) Tomasz Adamek is rating so high in this poll. 20% of voters in this poll really think that Adamek was the best cruiserweight of the decade? That is utterly insane. Adamek had ONE more crusier fight than All Time Great Gomez in the 00’s, and Gomez was (ridiculously, in my opinion) excluded from the poll. Bananas.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"ONE more crusier fight"

I meant one more cruiser title defense, but I was wrong about that. Adamek had two “less” title defenses than Gomez in this decade, defending the IBF strap against Banks and Bobby Gunn.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you here

But cutting out whether a fight was a defense or not (I don’t necessarily give the fact that a fight is a title defense THAT much credit – either the opponent is good or he isn’t), Adamek does arguably have two better wins at the weight (Bell and Cunningham) than Gomez did in the aughts. Sure, he had four title defenses, but breaking them down:

- Imamu Mayfield was probably the best win of the bunch. He did hold a title at one point, but it’s questionable as to whether he has a single good win on his resume. His best win was probably against 26-12 Uriah Grant, plus he was 1-1-1 leading into the Gomez fight, and he’s 6-6-1 since.

- Castro was a shop worn light heavyweight who fought most of his career at middleweight. He went on a short run at cruiserweight, and it’s a decent win (I did list it for Jirov, who beat Castro about as convincingly as did Gomez), but certainly nothing special.

- Aurino was a Euro level fighter who got whooped every time he stepped up. I guess that’s about the same level as some of the other opponents listed, but I didn’t even bother listing him in Johnny Nelson’s resume, and Nelson beat him at about the same level as Gomez.

- Siluvagni was a mirage. His one “good” win was over a Palle fighter who had built up an impressive looking record beating up cans, a la Brien Nielsen. He fought pretty much his entire career at LHW, and didn’t even make it into the top 10 there. After fighting Gomez, he went 2-12. You may take that as evidence that Gomez “ruined” him, but I take that as evidence that he just plain sucked.

Looking at it again, he probably did enough to warrant being on the poll. No worse than Nelson anyway. Admittedly, Toney’s only on there because of his one big win over Jirov – other than that, his tenure at cruiserweight was very undistinguished. At this point, it’s late to redo the poll, but I’ll take under advisement that I should be more inclusive rather than less inclusive in future polls.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 9, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

- Castro was a shop worn light heavyweight who fought most of his career at middleweight. He went on a short run at cruiserweight, and it’s a decent win (I did list it for Jirov, who beat Castro about as convincingly as did Gomez), but certainly nothing special.

I am glad you are at least trying to see it my way, man. I actually had no argument with you noting Castro as one of Jirov’s biggest wins in the decade. It point of fact, you could argue that is was his “biggest” win. After all, Jirov fought a great fight against “shop-worn, blown-up middleweight” Toney… and he LOST.

- Imamu Mayfield was probably the best win of the bunch. He did hold a title at one point, but it’s questionable as to whether he has a single good win on his resume. His best win was probably against 26-12 Uriah Grant, plus he was 1-1-1 leading into the Gomez fight, and he’s 6-6-1 since.

The way you are trying to dismiss Imamu Mayfield is a little bizarre, given that you listed “Alexander Gurov and Vincenzo Rositto” among Haye’s great scapls. There’s no “probably” about it. He was Gomez’s best win of the decade, and a better win than at least half of the opponents you listed above. All this “he was 1-1-1” before and “6-6-1” after jazz helps my argument, not yours. Gomez ruined a prime former Mayfield in three brutal rounds. A few fights later, Mayfield moved up to heavyweight and tried his hand there… no dice, the true Big Men were slaughtering Mayfield!! Mayfield’s fight against Gomez shook up and short-circuited his cruiser career… and “shopworn” Castro ended it a few years later.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm genuinely shocked that James Toney is #2 in the voting;

And also flabbergasted that O’Neil Bell isn’t in the top 5!!

It makes me question my own recollections of Bell. Was he really the fighter I’ve always thought him to be?

Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)

by Chaos100 on Oct 9, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, seriously

The polling is pretty wacked out. You’re not wrong at all. It’s just plain criminal how low Bell and Mormeck are polling versus Toney and Jirov.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, you have Jonathon Banks listed up there as part of Adamek’s marquis wins. Banks was only a “tough prospect” in the eyes of crooked sanctioners, and was in fact greener than a St. Patrick’s Day Parade when he faced Banks. And how did he rise to that distinction? He retired a badly faded and finished Mayfield, who had just finished his world tour of merciless beatdowns at Heavyweight and tried to launch the most ill-advised “comeback” weight-drop this side of Chris Byrd. Would the prime Mayfield who Gomez crushed 8 years earlier have lost to Banks??? HELL NO!

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"...when he faced Adamek..."

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on the eyeball test

I think Banks is pretty good actually, probably better than prime Mayfield. A hell of a lot better than some of the other prospects these days. But that’s just the eyeball test.

I expect there will be a lot of whacked out voting. Not everyone who reads this blog is hardcore. A lot of people will vote for the names they recognize.

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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Oct 9, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was never sold on Banks

And I’m still not. Cruiserweight has always been a pretty wacky division, full of guys who don’t belong there and guy who DO belong but claim they don’t after a couple of decent wins or discouraging losses. Banks falls into that second category… having lost to Adamek and now transforming into a 220-lb heavyweight. He’s going nowhere in that division.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap! Somebody just pinoy’d this poll for Adamek. Polish boxing website found us???

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep. But polls are all popularity contests. Fuckin’ David Haye was the only one close with Adamek anyway.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 9, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Toney

AND TWINS

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 9, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I now feel foolish for my comparatively minor quibble about leaving Gomez off the poll… there is clearly a much larger problem here. This is the second poll in a row I seen that’s literally been outright busted to the point of being meaningless.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that polls are particularly "meaningful" to begin with

You know what I’m saying.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

It all depends on whether a poll does or doesn’t get linked at someone’s fan page. I’m actually surprised the Haye fans haven’t come out in the same manner.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 9, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe rather then grandiose names like “Bad Left Hook’s Best of the Decade: Cruiserweight” these polls should all read “Click on the Name You Recognize” It’s just sad because I know there are a lot of intelligent fans who frequent this site, and poll numbers like these make us look like a bunch of numbskulls.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll note that, in the future, obvious ballot stuffing leads to disqualification

This is mostly just for fun anyway. It’s not like I’m sending an award to these guys or something.

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Oct 9, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, I'll try making the poll not public

I think that means you have to log in to vote, but I’m not sure of that.

Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Oct 9, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just going to assume from now on that all bizzaro poll results are really just protest votes in favor of, well, whoever I picked. In other words, the correct one.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 9, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"HoGAN!!!!"

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Oct 10, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IT APPEARS AS THOUGH TOMASZ ADAMEK IS JUST FANTASTIC

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Oct 10, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bell
Mormeck
Toney

in that order I like Adamek but his resume doesnt span long enough

Bruce Seldon > Ali

by rjhabeeb on Oct 20, 2009 2:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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