Arum will talk, but won't "play games" with Mayweather
Bob Arum, who used to promote Floyd Mayweather Jr. and now promotes Manny Pacquiao, has been one of the suspected roadblocks in the making of a Mayweather-Pacquiao. But the longtime promoter told Yahoo! Sports columnist Kevin Iole he will make the fight against his better judgment...if he can.
"The only reason I want this Mayweather fight is because the public wants it so badly," Arum said. "Boxing is on a real, real roll right now and I don’t want to do anything to get it off that. But if that doesn’t matter to him, OK, it doesn’t matter to him. I have no problem.
"But I would feel I cheated the sport I’ve worked in for so long if I stood in the way of this fight happening. Because of that, I’ll do everything in my power to try to make it happen. Do I really want this happening, though? Other than that, the answer is no."
It's been no secret that Arum and Mayweather haven't been on the best terms since they split for good in 2006. Mayweather long blamed Arum for not advancing his career properly and making him a bigger star, and you cannot argue that since he left Top Rank, Mayweather has definitely become a much bigger star. A lot of that is owed to the fact that a Mayweather fight with Oscar de la Hoya likely wouldn't have happened in 2007 without Mayweather having left Arum. Top Rank and Golden Boy didn't see how important working together was until after that fight.
But Arum has also been adamant that Mayweather frequently turned down opponents, and that he feels Mayweather is terrified of losing his undefeated record. Many in and around boxing feel the same way.
Bob says he won't "play games" with Mayweather at the negotiating table, but will negotiate with Richard Schaefer when Schaefer is given the real go-ahead by Mayweather:
"Once he’s authorized, things will proceed. I’m not going to play Mayweather’s games, though. I’m not going to let my fighter play Mayweather’s games. If Mayweather wants to fight Pacquiao and make a lot of money, he can do so. But God love him, no one is forcing him to fight and if he wants to play games or he doesn’t want the fight, he can do what he wants."
And if the fight can't be made? Arum says he'll look to make a third fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez. I honestly have little-to-no interest in seeing Pacquiao wipe the floor with the aged Marquez, who would have to fight Pacquiao at a weight that works for Manny and likely doesn't for Juan Manuel. I've said since the Oscar fight that I think a third fight between Pacquiao and Marquez, great as their first two fights were, just isn't appealing anymore. I have no doubt how the bout turns out, and it's not pretty for Marquez. I'd much rather see Pacquiao against the Mosley-Berto winner than I would Marquez.
Iole's column also has an interesting bit where Team Mayweather claims Arum wouldn't let them fight Miguel Cotto. Arum has his own feelings on that claim, and they're strong.
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Arum’s vehemence is throwing me off a bit, but before I read that, I would have actually been more inclined to believe Mayweather’s side of that story.
The only difference is, I think Arum would have been entirely correct to hold off on a Cotto-Mayweather fight until Cotto developed. Cotto is younger than Mayweather and it would have made a lot more sense for them to fight after they had both reached their primes instead of jumping the gun and having a green Cotto fight a prime Mayweather.
So even if Mayweather’s story is right, I don’t think that burnishes his credibility very much at all. Whether or not he wanted to fight Cotto when Cotto was green, it sure seemed like he wanted nothing to do with Cotto once Cotto was no longer green. Mayweather is acting like he somehow had an entitlement to fight Cotto only on the terms that were most advantageous to him, instead of on the terms that would have maximized the quality of the fight.
by taco pal on Nov 18, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arum’s vehemence is throwing me off a bit, but before I read that, I would have actually been more inclined to believe Mayweather’s side of that story.
You know, the thing about that for me is that Arum is such a practiced, bald-faced, and sometimes obvious and outrageous liar that no amount of vehemence can really persuade me. I’m not saying Bob is definitely lying, but I am saying that his lips are moving, so there’s no way to be sure. He could swear on a thousand graves about something and I’d be like “Sure, okay, whatever Bob.”
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on Nov 18, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're speaking like Bob Arum has no credibility at all.
Sure he’s prone to hyperbole, and he was once a lawyer, but please…
by Fj-3 on Nov 19, 2009 4:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eyes wide Shut ..
Arum sounds very pessimistic about this fight being made for some reason and negotiations haven’t started yet.
by Haans Bishop on Nov 18, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
to borrow a phrase from jrok...'haw haw haw'
Arum’s outrage is comedy, but I believe him and love his line ’
“But God love him, no one is forcing him to fight and if he wants to play games or he doesn’t want the fight, he can do what he wants.”
There’s going to be a heap of good back and forth…fingers crossed it doesn’t turn into PBF-DLH II…
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
by BrianBrock on Nov 18, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Arum doesn't want to play games, he shouldn't start games
Don’t want to do this? Make a public, take it or leave it offer that’s reasonable for both sides. Like 50/50 split, 147 pounds, standard ring and glove size. He doesn’t do himself any favors be starting the conversations with a 60/40 split. If he wants to play hardball, he has to expect Mayweather to play hardball as well.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 18, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you start at 50-50
and PBF starts at 55-45, Arum’s at the very best going to get 49-51. Starting high seems a normal initial point to me?!
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
by BrianBrock on Nov 18, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, a take it or leave it offer
The rest of the details can get hammered out in negotiations, but that’s where all the major points are going to end up anyway, so if you don’t want to play games, and Schaefer doesn’t want to play games, then just don’t play games.
Arum’s not going to make a formal proposal on anything until official Pac-Cotto numbers come out though.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Nov 18, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The article seems to indicate that there’s some uncertainty as to whether Golden Boy is involved yet. I’m sure it will be, but it doesn’t seem as if Floyd has officially authorized Schaefer to negotiate for him yet.
by taco pal on Nov 18, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
an inital 50/50 split wont work
its like buying a car.. we all know what a fair price is when purchasing a vehicle but we arent going to start with that price at the negotiations. All of this back and forth talk about purse splits between the camps is all part of the game.. they are ALL savy business men who are trying to get the best advantage in the end; pruse split, ring/glove size, weight, etc.. and why not? Everyone wants to have an advantage.. in the end it wont matter who gets what cause the people will only remember the two fighting. You will have your occacional over the top boxing fanatic always bring up `catch weights, ring size, etc..` but the record books will be solified and thats the only thing that really matters.
by jerranamo on Nov 18, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
More I think about it...
the more I feel this fight will happen.
I was thinking about the money that this fight would produce and it dawned upon me that bought Mayweather and Pacquiao will most likely be gone from boxing relatively soon.
Mayweather came out of retirement to raise money to pay off his debts to the IRS. Pacquiao is fighting at 147 because he wants big money making fights to raise money for his presidential campaign.
Neither of them can resist the money this fight offers but this fight is unlikely to happen. When you sit down at a negotiating table everything is up for debate but when your opponent starts off by saying “I want 65-35” that ultimatum brings any negotiating to an end pretty quickly.
If Mayweather doesn’t accept anything other than 50-50 or the biggest split goes to the winner this fight won’t happen Pac will just raise the funds he needs for his political campaign in other ways.
by MannyPacquiao on Nov 18, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There's literally no way this fight doesn't happen
- Both guys are near the end of their careers, so neither should be too worried about how this affects the ability to make future earnings
- Both guys get bigger money for a 50/50 split for this fight than they would for even a 75/25 split for any other fight
- Both guys need it for their legacies
- Floyd is confident he can win without any problems
Even Arum won’t get in the way of this one. And if he does, then Pac’s contract expires in a year and the fight will happen some other way.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Nov 18, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pacquiao is fighting at 147 because he wants big money making fights to raise money for his presidential campaign
I am from the Philippines and I don’t know where you got this idea (or news) that Manny is running for president.
by cozmicfeelings on Nov 19, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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