Juan Manuel Marquez Speaks: Pacquiao, not Hatton, is first choice
by Scott Christ on Nov 19, 2009 1:18 PM EST
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Lightweight world champion Juan Manuel Marquez told a Mexican radio station (link via BoxingScene.com) that his first choice for a return bout would be a trilogy fight with his great rival Manny Pacquiao, and that only if that fight can't be made would he look to fight Ricky Hatton in England. Both fights have been talked about this week, with Hatton indicating he'll come back in 2010 and Top Rank promoter Bob Arum saying that Marquez would Pacquiao's next option if a super fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. isn't possible.
I already made my feelings on Pacquiao-Marquez III pretty clear, and Pacquiao himself seems to have no interest in the fight, feeling the public won't buy it. Thinking about it a bit more, it's a fight I'd surely buy, because both men are fighters that deserve my money and have given me more than "enough" entertainment over the years. But I really don't have any more interest in Pacquiao-Marquez III than I did Pacquiao-Morales III or Pacquiao-Barrera II; the end result was pretty obvious in both of those cases, and I think the same is true for this idea, especially since Freddie Roach wants it at 145 pounds and we know Marquez can't carry the weight and keep his speed or power.
I mean, of course Juan Manuel would prefer Pacquiao to Hatton. It's a bigger fight, meaning a bigger purse, more attention, and massive shockwaves if he pulled the upset or even took Manny to the limit for a third time. The last time Pacquiao met much resistance at all was his 2008 rematch with Marquez, which was four Manny fights and three weight classes ago.
One thing I have to admire is that Marquez seriously refuses to believe he can't beat Pacquiao, though. He's 36, slowing down some (still a marvelous boxer), and we've seen Manny get ferociously dominant in the time we've watched Marquez cool off a little bit. But he thinks he beat Manny twice, and he thinks he can do it now. Even though he didn't carry the weight well against Floyd, he probably legitimately thinks he can beat Manny at 145, too. I don't, but Marquez has never lacked for guts, pride or warrior spirit. How many good or even great fighters might have found themselves mentally broken when knocked down three times by Pacquiao in the opening round, as Marquez was in 2004? Or when it was apparent that Manny was the stronger man in the 2008 rematch? Marquez never stopped trying against Floyd, either, he just couldn't do anything with him. The guy has the heart of a lion.
Oh, crap, I'm talking myself into Pacquiao-Marquez III, aren't I?
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No need for a Trilogy
Juan Manuel vs Hatton would be good comeback fight for both fighters being that they both have one major thing in common… They both lost to Pacman and Mayweather.
talk yourself back out of it SC
you know it makes sense…if they fought at 140 maybe a bit competitive…but otherwise not
I hated every minute of training, but I said, ‘’Don’t quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion.'’ (Bernard Hopkins)
I Agree
140 Sounds Good not 145. I would like to see MP fight FM and JMM fight Hatton the in September Pacquiao vs JMM Trilogy.
If Marquez was competitive
It would take all of two seconds for Floyd Mayweather to begin comparing it to his fight with Marquez, and acting like a Pacquiao fight was now an irrelevance
I had a dream three nights ago where I was sitting having a beer with Marquez and we talked about Pacquiao. I said “if you want us to think you’re better than him maybe you shouldn’t have ended up on your ass so much”. He laughed a lot.
I soemhow doubt he would take such a comment so well in real life!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
TonyThePony
Sorry to say that Marquez has transformed into a Mayweather. Mayweather gave him a lesson (not in boxing) but in taking money. He fought Mayweather for the money and that is no secret, as Nacho Beristain his trainer admitted. They jumped 2 weight classes to meet the real money and not Mayweather. He even allowed May to go 147 and took the penalty of $600K. With challenging Pacquiao, he knows this time he might not wake up from a KD but what the heck he wants $10Million, forget the fans, forget giving a good fight, just pretend and then run home with the money!!!! What a clown. What makes him think he can now lick Pacman. His goping up in weight to 144 made the statue of liberty more alive than him. What a gas this Marquez is. His 2 fights against Pacquiao was eons ago when Manny only had one arm, and yet he got knocked down 4 times and he wasn’t even able to KD Pacman. Now with Pac’s 2 arms and a much more strength, Marquez is doomed. I don’t care if he collects his pee for one week and drink 2 gallons of them before weigh in, it won’t work. His only concern is PEE (Pesos)!
Boiemacho is that you?
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Nov 19, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone that uses the phrase “what a gas” is alright by me.
Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by Scott Christ on Nov 19, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
according to pacquiao you need to eat your poop along with drinking the pee, so if he eats some shit who knows what will happen?!?!??!
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Nov 19, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Marquez just fighting for the money?
Sure, prolly. He sure as shit deserves some paydays though, don’t you think?
hey will you look at that JMM is talking about pacquiao again.
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Nov 19, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions
At 144 this would be a sham...
Yes it’d make quite a bit of money with the right advertising but Marquez at 144 was terrible he was faded, bloated and slow as hell he could barely punch.
Honestly I’ll lose faith in Marquez if he ever fights at that weight again theres nothing wrong with taking the money from the last fight but he doesn’t want to build his career around money fights.
Pac would kill him at 144 as would anybody else for that matter.
Have to see how he does at 140 though a few pounds can make a huge diffrence for some fighters.
Best for Marquez
JMM has ben chasing the Pacman for quite some bouts now.. He thinks he can beat Manny, Manny thinks he’s not worth the money specially after being mauled by Floyd Jr. If he plans to pursue the Pacman, maybe the route to go is Cotto.. If he stops Cotto better than Pacquiao did, then maybe, just maybe, MAnny would give him a 3rd look and a shot at the biggest money fight Marquez could ever imagine…There is no shortcut to the Man so he better get that fight before he gets Juan old has been boxer.
Pacquiao
Do not be surprise if you hear every boxer longing for a fight with Manny Pacquiao. Any boxer that Manny fights nowadays will make a lot of money. Everybody likes money. That is the reason why Juan Manuel Marquez is still making noise regarding another meeting with the pound for pound king Manny Pacquiao. If Marquez will consult his trainer Nacho about another fight with Manny, Nacho might tell him to forget it. Not too long ago this trainer was talking about how good of a boxer and how good of a technician Manny turned out to be.
During his last two fights with the Pacman, Marquez spent too much time on the canvASS (4 times) and Pacquiao then was just fighting him with one hand. Today Pacquiao is a two handed fighter. See what happened to those four big fighters that Manny fought recently. If the Pacman will give Marquez another chance, then it will be suicidal on Marquez part and I don’t think that people would like to be there if it happens.
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