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Cotto-Pacquiao does 1.25 million buys on pay-per-view

Cottopacposterofficial_medium_medium HBO has released the numbers, and the Miguel Cotto-Manny Pacquiao fight last Saturday generated 1.25 million buys on pay-per-view, beating out Mayweather-Marquez as the biggest boxing event of 2009. The fight generated $70 million in pay-per-view revenue to go along with its $8.84 million live gate.

The 1.25 million number equals what Pacquiao did a year ago against Oscar de la Hoya, though it doesn't quite reach the larger numbers that were being bandied about this week. Bob Arum said he thought it was looking like about 1.3 million, and he turned out to be correct. Usually, Bob is one of those going high, but I think this number more than pleases everyone involved.

Hatton-Pacquiao in May was a big success. Mayweather-Marquez was a phenomenal success. And this fight -- bigger than both -- is just more proof that if you put together fights and build guys right, boxing is far, far from dead.

I would have said six months ago that a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight approaching the all-time PPV record set by Oscar and Floyd back in 2007 would have been impossible, but now I think there's a real chance there. Breaking two million buys is damn hard. In fact, Oscar-Floyd is the only fight that has ever done it, with Lewis-Tyson being No. 2 all-time at 1.99 million.

But I think Mayweather-Pacquiao can do it. I don't know if they will, but HBO has already said they'll be putting unheard of backing behind this must-see event should the parties work out a deal, and it seems to just about all of us that a deal not getting worked out is almost unthinkable. Way too much money to be made.

Boxing is on a nice little roll this year, and really has been the last few years or so. Slowly but surely, the mainstream media is starting to get over their "boxing is dead" obsession, and I'm hoping that a Floyd-Manny fight will be the last time I ever have to read articles from basketball writers titled, "The fight to get boxing off the ropes," or what have you.

Congratulations to HBO, Top Rank and of course, the fighters.

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i never heard the bobfather saying the projected buys were gonna be 1.3, i always heard him state they were going to be pushing the 2 million mark …

this is the 2nd pac fight in a row that he has projected huge numbers and when the numbers dont meet those expectations they lose a lot of the luster …

i do not think its a coincidence that roach stated today that they would take a 50/50 split

by boxzilla on Nov 20, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/11/18/1162749/arum-now-confident-that-cotto

“Stating it was only a guess, Arum figured the fight would do around 1.3 million…”

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 20, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

arum post pre presser and in many instances in between was on his high horse saying this could do better then dlh vs. pbf 2.2 million and how well it was tracking …

by boxzilla on Nov 20, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure how much this says about Pac-Man though

you gotta keep in mind the 400k buys that Yuri Foreman is worth.

by tichbou on Nov 20, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Is there a way to tell how many people turned their TV sets off once Foreman-Santos ended? This is info we need.

by taco pal on Nov 20, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol .. i thought that fight was was pretty good actually … the jcc jr fight had me fallin asleep without a lie …

by boxzilla on Nov 20, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Woops, that was actually a poorly executed joke. I was trying to pile on with the whole “people only watched to see Yuri” bit. I didn’t intend to make fun of the fight for sucking.

by taco pal on Nov 20, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha rec’d.

Seriously though, Yuri did his career a real favor in that fight. He outboxed Santos, but he also outpunched him.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Nov 20, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was bored by that fight, but mostly I was bored by overweight Santos looking super old. Yuri did his job.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 20, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m just saying “for a Yuri Foreman fight” it was entertaining. I understand how problematic this statement is, too. Anyway, it was much better than watching JCC’s clearly adopted son duke it out with Whatisface.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Nov 20, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. The fight was non-horrible, and was made positively entertaining by all the humorous commentary. Not just on this site, but even on the telecast. Stuff like:

Emanuel Steward: “This is when you can really hurt a fighter, when he comes rushing in trying to get the knockout. I could even see Foreman getting the knockout here.”

Larry Merchant: [snorts] “Well, let’s not go overboard, Emanuel.”

by taco pal on Nov 20, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The next step, of course, is the all-important Foreman-Spinks title unification match at 154.

While this could easily turn out to be the very worst boxing match in the whole history of the sport, it might draw the interest of some confused old people who think it’s between the other Foreman and the other Spinks.

by taco pal on Nov 20, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Honestly

it seems inevitable, doesn’t it?

by tichbou on Nov 20, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Cory’s actually been pretty fun the last couple times out. Spinks-Foreman could be a sleeper for “fight everyone groans at and then sort of enjoys of the year”

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 20, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In all seriousness

the question is not how many buys Yuri is worth, it’s how many JCC jr is. Like him or not, he’s something of a draw for some. As much as I love Chris John, JCC jr is a much bigger draw than anyone on the PBF Marquez undercard.

by tichbou on Nov 20, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

He factored in for sure.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 20, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This shoots Mayweather's arguments for anything other than a 50/50 split out of the water.

Hopefully he stops beating that horse.

Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion

by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 20, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not out of the water, but it helps Pac

Mayweather has outdrawn Pac by a pretty long shot with each of their common opponents, and he still got a million buys on a fight most people knew was a mismatch. He probably won’t let it go, but I hope he will. It probably SHOULD end up around 52/48 in Mayweather’s favor.

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by Brickhaus on Nov 20, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree with you 100% brick

by boxzilla on Nov 20, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think those common opponents came at a time in Pac’s career before he went supernova. He was supposed to get seriously hurt against De la Hoya, and that Hatton KO has been replayed about 15 billion times.

You can’t say Pac isn’t a draw. There were some PRicans in that 1.25 million, but it was mostly Pac.

Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion

by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 20, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, he's bigger now than he was then

And his opponents had less luster as well. But it doesn’t change that against common opponents in three fights, Mayweather has about 1.8 million more buys than Pacquiao.

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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."

by Brickhaus on Nov 21, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. We all know the score, but the negotiating table is a different deal.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 21, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You have to remember the Mayweather fight was delayed to coincide with the Mexican holiday.

Aside from that Pacs other big fights were during a recession. 50 dollars is a lot of money that few people in their right mind would pay for a PPV during a recession. It’s pretty damn hard to recommend even for a boxing fan.

I believe the split Mayweather wants is much more outrageous than anything like 52-48. I think Roach was saying something like 60-40 or 65-35 they were demanding.

Either way though the fight should be on a winner takes 60, loser takes 40 split IMO. Put your money where your mouth is.

by MannyPacquiao on Nov 20, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Both fighters deserve their due

I think this fight should be split 50/50 but for those who want to give Pacman credit for the attendance, consider this: It is true that Pac will bring legions of his fans, but PBF will not only bring his fans but those who hate him and/or just want to see him beat. Leading up to the fight, Pac will do his usual nice guy thing and talk about singing and what not. May will be up in his face talking s***, playing the race card and everything else he can to increase the buy. My sister-in-law does not watch boxing but she bought the PBF vs De La Hoya PPV to see Oscar shut him up. My point is, it doesn’t matter how you bring ’em, by hook or by crook, just as long as they come. No matter how you feel about the guy, Floyd is a huge draw.

Now all we need is some GOOD American heavies, some mainstream TV play and a crackdown on crooked judges and boxing will be king.

Every fighter has a game plan until he get's punched in the mouth.

-Mike

by Craigman on Nov 20, 2009 8:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Right on with your closing comments on the mainstream media and boxing!

Even Sports Illustrated, the worst culprit, has finally started to pay attention to the quality happening in the squared circle, and started to get over its pandering to Gen Y with MMA coverage. 4 pages on Pacquiao-Cotto in the current issue, following a full Freddie Roach profile last week — OMG, is it 1985 again? Btw, keep up the great work: Bad Left Hook is almost as good for the sport as the Pacman!

by RAW50 on Nov 21, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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