Super Six So Far, and What's Ahead
[FanPosted promoted by Brick. While this does present a good recap, there are some opinions involved, but it seems like this should be a great start to some discussions about what could happen from here on out in the tournament.]
Last night's fight between Mikkel Kessler and Andre Ward concluded the first stage of the Super Six World Boxing Classic. Here is a quick rundown:
Points:
- Arthur Abraham: 3
- Carl Froch: 2
- Andre Ward: 2
- Mikkel Kessler: 0
- Andre Dirrell: 0
- Jermain Taylor: 0
In addition, we have a title change as Andre Ward won the WBA Super Middleweight title from Mikkel Kessler.
So far, so good. There have been great performances by Ward and Abaraham, and a healthy bit of boxing controversy surrounding the Froch-Dirrell fight and Jermain Taylor. But all three fights have been entertaining, hard fought, and close (even Taylor wasn't doing that bad). But what have we learned? And remember, lets keep this in the context of the tournament rules and standings. Abraham getting those 3 points were key against the weakest fighter in the draw. Kessler's loss also helps him immensely.
1. Arthur Abraham is now the favorite, Andre Dirrell has a very narrow path through. Part of it is the draw - Abraham won't have to fight Kessler or Ward, and instead got Taylor and then gets Dirrell next. Now Dirrell has the kind of athleticism that could give a plodding fighter like Abraham who doesn't transition from offense to defense very well. Dirrell showed how good he can be against Froch. But Dirrell had a hard time dealing with Carl Froch when he got nasty, when he turned the fight into a slugfest. Whether you think Dirrell won or lost, its clear that he wants to keep the fight outside and moving because once Froch made it about clutching and inside fighitng Dirrell had a hard time. Abraham is a destroyer, much moreso than Froch, and Dirrell will have a lot to deal with. I have a bad feeling that Dirrell might be the guy left out of the final four because he, by far, has the hardest draw of the six (Froch, Abraham, Ward). Kessler's lost hurts because he doesn't fight Kessler and won't get a chance to take control of his future and he doesn't fight Taylor to try and get the 2 or 3 points.
2. Andre Ward is the truth, but don't overlook Taylor. Jermain Taylor hung in there with Arthur Abraham, and was arguably winning the fight halfway through. Against Carl Froch last year, he would have won the fight if he hadn't gotten knocked out. This is not to say I am making excuses for Taylor - he gassed against Froch and couldn't handle Abraham's power. But for all the talk about Taylor quitting the tournament, Andre Ward's win is a gift for this veteran warrior from Arkansas. I can't imagine it has ever happened in boxing that a man coming off of two knockout losses did he get to fight for a part of a world championship. But that is the case here. Ward looked fantastic against Kessler, and will be the favorite against Taylor. But Ward doesn't have the power that Froch and Abraham have, and while he's fast Taylor won't have to worry about the raw power like he did before. Ward got away with a lot of reckless tendencies against a Kessler who clearly wasn't ready for Ward or his southpaw stance. Taylor is a crafty veteran who's fought the best, and just as people talked about his career being over, a title shot drops into his lap. Ward now has to deal with the pressure of defending his title under the bright lights of this tournament. But clearly of all the fighters, Ward has now leaped ahead to co-favorite with Abraham. He should get past Taylor, but he better not overlook him.
3. Carl Froch, everything to lose. Mikkel Kessler, everything to gain. Of all the fights going into this tournament, this is the one I've most been looking forward too, even though its not a a title unifier anymore. Both have a lot to prove. Froch won a dirty war against Dirrell, but still has to answer some questions. He's tough, but he was arguably losing to both Taylor and Dirrell and his hold on the title is not tight right now. Kessler is a better fighter than the fighter that fought Ward. But he needs to figure out how to keep the fight on the outside or how to fight on the inside because if he has problems with Ward's inside punches and clutching, Froch is a dog at that. Froch also has more power than Ward. But Kessler has time still . . . he gets Taylor in the last fight of stage one so he ends easier than the other fighters, and this fight will be in Copenhagen. For a title. It will be a chance at immediate redemption for the Viking Warrior. Froch relishes the bad guy role, but if he had problems with Dirrell, an on-his-game Kessler will be a lot to ask for. Froch needs to make this fight dirty, like he did against Dirrell, because I think Kessler is just a better fighter right now than Froch. If Froch loses, its bad for the tournament too because he gets Abraham in round 3.
Predictions come after the jump.
Here are my predictions right now:
Stage 2
- Andre Ward (4 points) d. Jermain Taylor by UD (0 points)
- Arthur Abraham (6 points) d. Andre Dirrell by TKO (0 points)
- Mikkel Kessler (2 points) d. Carl Froch by Split-Decision (2 points)
Stage 3
- Arthur Abraham (8 points) d. Carl Froch by split-decision (2 points)
- Mikkel Kessler (5 points) d. Jermain Taylor by KO (0 points)
- Andre Ward d (6) d. Andre Dirrell by split decision (0 points)
TOURNAMENT
- Arthur Abraham vs. Carl Froch
- Mikkel Kessler vs. Andre Ward
FINALS:
Arthur Abraham vs. Andre Ward
WINNER: A star is born . . . .ANDRE WARD!
So now that I've made my picks, I'll have to revise them in three months because just watch Dirrell shock Abraham and Taylor shock Ward. Who knows . . .
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Nickname
I seen at least a couple of writers refer to Ward as “The Truth.” Personally I really like this nickname and it has a nice ring to it too. Then I could get myself an Andre “The Truth” Ward T-Shirt without the super-religious stuff all over it….
I’m worried about Ward Taylor. Taylor really doesn’t have to worry about the power of Ward and Taylor might still have the speed to keep up with Ward. Hopefully Ward brings the same fire he had tonight. That man was razor sharp focused all week, if he keeps it up, game over thanks for playing!
by waldo47 on Nov 22, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah – way better than SOG
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by lcollins1 on Nov 23, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody I’ve ever met named “Carl” or “Williams” has immediately been nicknamed “The Truth”, if only by me.
by FCF on Nov 23, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff
And I agree with a lot of it. Even after everything that happened in the first round, I still find all the second round matchups tough to pick. The third round is a little more clear to me.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 22, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ward
I’ve thought that for a while now though. When I compared the two about 6 months ago, I said I thought Ward was better right now, but that Dirrell has more talent and long-term potential. I may have underestimated Ward a bit though. He really did look good last night.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 23, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also rated Dirrell as the better prospect as well compared to Ward, but styles makes fights and maybe it was just the best type of fight for Ward to shine.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Nov 23, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's close
Haven’t really seen Ward against top notch speed. Miranda and Kessler aren’t exactly 100m world record holders. It depends on whether Ward is able to counter Dirrell. I have a feeling he is going to grow a lot because of the Froch and Abraham fights.
by waldo47 on Nov 23, 2009 3:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great writeup Mason Beer.
I think you highlighted the greatness of the tournament….
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
by Zocalo on Nov 23, 2009 12:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like most of your picks SC,
but this one stands out:
- Arthur Abraham (8 points) d. Carl Froch by split-decision (2 points)
Not a chance.
Arthur Abraham will knock Carl Froch out cold. Quote me on that. Taylor floored him, Andre troubled him, Abraham will murder him.
Abraham vs Ward final would be something special, I do wonder if Kessler will wake up though – he didn’t look right against Ward at all (that may well have been down to Ward). I wonder if his “defenses” in Denmark against no marks has hurt him.
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by bazzlad on Nov 23, 2009 3:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like most of your picks SC,
Not mine. Byline, people.
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by SC on Nov 23, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m starting to get quite excited by this, I would love to see more of this in other divisions. If only Bute had been involved in this, as opposed to say Taylor.
by MatM on Nov 23, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Super Six
So far, this tournament has exceeded even the fairly high expectations that I had for it. Ward/Dirrell are further along than I imagined, which eliminated my thinking that they would be over their heads in this tourney.
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by Josh Trull on Nov 23, 2009 9:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
For me, the best part is...
…watching Showtime on a lazy Saturday afternoon and getting to see Dirrell, Ward, and Kessler’s fights prior to the Super Six. I haven’t been this excited about boxing (read: not just the next Pacman fight, but boxing as a whole) since, probably Tyson’s meltdown.
by black dragon on Nov 23, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
great writeup
really captures just how interesting and exciting this tournament is
-Brian
by bp on Nov 23, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Picks
I like the write up first and foremost, however I disagree with the point distribution in some of your picks, not necessarily your picks.
First of all I think Ward knocks Taylor out giving him 3 points, it could go to the cards but that’s just my pick. Ward is a better fighter than Froch and busier early than Abraham is despite not having his power. If Taylor can keep his legs and box he still has a shot, but we haven’t seen that Taylor since the first Pavlik fight. Personally I was excited for Taylor as an up and coming star with wins over Winky Wright and Bernard Hopkins and those fights going the distance. Taylor aged quickly so to speak after the Pavlik fights and if he gets knocked out cleanly in the Ward fight he should strongly consider retirement.
Secondly I think the Abraham-Dirrell fight goes all 12. Abraham didn’t knock out Taylor until late in the last round in Germany. The fight being on American soil makes little difference, but Dirrell is a younger, fresher, and faster fighter than Taylor is. Abraham protecting his head so much is going to open up shots to the body plus in the late rounds he was swinging wide and leaving himself open for counters. If this is the case against Dirrell I expect the quicker counter-puncher to be able to stick and move and score points and maybe put Abraham on the canvas. I’m not calling it, I’m picking Abraham in 12, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it happened, when and if it does, expect a solid zwaa from yours truly.
The last two disputes I have with your predictions are concerning the Froch fights. Albeit Froch is an undefeated fighter, I think both Kessler and Abraham knock him out early. He’s not really a boxer, he wants to fight dirty and inside and trade blows, and if he wants to do that with Abraham and Kessler they’re going to put him on his ass, and probably do it within 8 rounds a piece.
I agree with your final 4, and honestly the finals as well. I’m not going to be so bold as you and pick a winner at this point but I’m much more excited about the rest of these fights than I was after the Froch/Dirrell debacle.
by rmatheny on Nov 23, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with most of this.
To be fair though, I’m still dizzy with shock. Kessler, getting manhandled, a week after Cotto got manhandled? If I had to pick two fighters that this just plain and simple wouldn’t happen to, those two would be near the top of my list. And for Kessler to get beaten by anyone other than Bute seems like a pipe dream to me, even now….
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by Chaos100 on Nov 23, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Power of a Game Plan
Premium examples of what a well executed game plan can do to even a top rank fighter. Both Cotto and Kessler are essentially self-trained and really didn’t need to be multi-dimensional to beat their competition. When someone forced them to change their style, by hook or by crook, they didn’t have the training to do so effectively. The huge difference between good and great is often an elite trainer maximizing the talent of a fighter.
by waldo47 on Nov 23, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Miguel Cotto has beaten Shane Mosley, Zab Judah and Joshua Clottey. Mikkel Kessler has beaten Markus Beyer, Anthony Mundine and Dimitri Sartison. I don’t think it quite compares, with no disrespect intended to Beyer, Mundine and Sartison.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Nov 23, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You could argue that he wasn’t as reliant on himself for training when he beat those people though.
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by Drunken cutman on Nov 23, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Santiago was his trainer for Clottey, which is a better win than anything on Kessler’s record.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Nov 24, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True
But the Clottey fight was damn close, whichever way you scored it, and Kessler has never been in a fight that was remotely close.
Kessler has a lot to prove now in the rest of the super six, and until (if) he does it, he’s not really in the same conversation as Cotto in terms of resume. However, the comparison made by waldo is valid nonetheless. Being a top fighter doesn’t diminish the value of a quality tactician in you’re corner. Cotto might as well have had a cardboard cut-out of Santiago in his corner the last couple of fights for all the good he did
by thirdslip on Nov 24, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kessler has a lot to prove now in the rest of the super six, and until (if) he does it, he’s not really in the same conversation as Cotto in terms of resume.
This is really all I’m saying, but I’m also saying it and truly believe that Kessler just does not compare to Cotto, largely because he hasn’t had as many opportunities against not just top guys in the weight class, but top fighters in the world, pound-for-pound. Until now, 168 hasn’t been that type of division. But it certainly is now, and we’re going to find out a lot about Kessler. It’ll be worth revisiting soon. The Froch fight, obviously, is very pivotal for his standing.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Nov 24, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I should add this: Yes, he’s better than Joe Santiago, probably, but Evangelista Cotto wasn’t exactly Freddie Roach either.
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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes
by SC on Nov 24, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Kessler stops Froch
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by Chaos100 on Nov 24, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Kessler stops Froch!
that guy is so annoying!
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by Drunken cutman on Nov 24, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
support your countryman yo
also i knew that cotto was going to be manhandled, so that wasn’t a shock to me :)
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by battle axe of doom on Nov 24, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so
I almost feel like a gameplan has been laid out for Kessler though, and Froch will try to follow Ward’s roadmap. He won’t be able to switch stances though, which seemed to help Ward a lot. Kessler looked completely clueless when Ward switched to southpaw.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 26, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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