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I'm sure the Koreans hosting the WBC convention have really strong feelings about the affront Shane Mosley provided to the WBC by fighting the best fighter available rather than the cupcake the WBC mandated.  via www.jejuboxing.com

I'm sure the Koreans hosting the WBC convention have really strong feelings about the affront Shane Mosley provided to the WBC by fighting the best fighter available rather than the cupcake the WBC mandated. via www.jejuboxing.com

Since the WBC Convention started, which of the following crazy actions has the WBC NOT taken?

  1. Suspended Cris Arreola for six months for swearing in a post-fight interview
  2. Resolved to ban fathers working as trainers in their son's corners
  3. Refused to sanction Berto-Mosley as a title bout unless Mosley apologizes for dropping the belt to fight Margarito
  4. Named Floyd Mayweather as champion emeritus, forcing Andre Berto to fight him next
  5. Said that the Humberto Gutierrez-Vitali Tajbert winner would become champion after Humberto Soto's next fight, if he moves to lightweight as expected.

On the bright side, they have made a few positive decisions:

  • They did make Andre Dirrell Carl Froch's mandatory, pending the outcome of the Super Six.  It's quite possible that they may meet again in the tournament anyway.
  • Oleg Maskaev and Ray Austin will fight an eliminator to be Vitali Klitschko's next mandatory.  While neither is particularly worthy, it's better than Maskaev automatically being the mandatory, which is what they had decided previously.
  • They have mandated that the Pascal-Diaconu winner and the Dawson-Johnson winner must fight next.  Johnson will face anyone, but if Dawson wins, I'd love to see Dawson-Pascal, even though I think it would be a blowout.
  • Sergio Martinez won't need to give up his 154 pound strap in order to fight Paul Williams at 160.

By the way, the correct answer to the question above is (4). 

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Thanks for handling this, because I was going to wind up rambling on and on about the Berto-Mosley thing. Which actually I might just do anyway.

This is moronic for the following reasons:

First off: An apology? Shut up. Grow up. Do both. Jesus Christ, you babies.

More importantly, Mosley was only interim titleholder and his last fight before Margarito had been at 154 pounds. In fact, I think this might be getting reported wrong; Mosley fought Cotto for the WBA title in 2007 after winning the WBC’s interim title against Collazo, and then fought Mayorga for a chintzy worthless regional 154-pound WBA title, and then fought again for the 147 WBA title against Margarito. But either way it’s idiotic.

So, in short: Mosley was never full WBC welterweight titlist. Well, he was, from 2000-01. Mayweather held the full WBC title when Mosley fought Cotto, if that’s what they mean, and then it was put up for grabs between Berto and Miki goddamned Rodriguez when Mayweather fake retired. The idea that Mosley “abandoned” their (completely unnecessary) interim title and now needs to apologize if he hopes to challenge Berto for the green belt is just beyond stupid. They’ve been OK with Juan Urango, Steve Forbes and Collazo as challengers, and supposedly would be jimmy crack corn dandy with Selcuk Aydin, but Mosley needs to apologize?

These are a lot of fat old men with too much time on their hands stealing money from fighters. A six-year-old can poke holes in this nonsense.

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by SC on Nov 4, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I wouldn't hold their breaths on that Sugar Shane apology thing.

Also, they need Shane a lot more than Shane needs them. I think things like the Super Six go to underscore how little anyone gives a shit about belts anymore. Whoever wins that thing is the best Super Middleweight. Give the belt to whomever you want.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 5, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Resolved to ban fathers working as trainers in their son's corners

How does this even make sense? What’s the line of reasoning here?

by The Lethal Haze on Nov 5, 2009 2:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

They’ve done studies, allegedly, that claim more fighter deaths happen when fathers are working the son’s corner.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 5, 2009 2:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see the details behind such a study

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by Matt Miller on Nov 5, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not the study, but the article...

The World Boxing Council wants to banish once and for all fathers from working their sons’ corners during fights after a study showed it could prove fatal.

Speaking at the WBC’s annual convention, council president Jose Sulaiman said the organization already had a rule banning fathers from their sons’ corners but that it was being flouted.

The WBC must strictly enforce this law to prevent errors in judgment that could lead to tragedy in the ring, Sulaiman added.

Dr. Paul Wallace, chairman of the WBC’s medical advisory board, said that a study in California backed up the WBC’s stance.

“The most common factor out of all the fatalities that had happened, was having fathers in the corner,” he said of the study. “Now, that’s not something that’s a medical issue, but it’s something that’s clearly an association.”

Art Pelullo, president of Banner Promotions, said the emotional link between father and son should preclude them working so closely together during a fight.

“A father is not detached enough to make the right decision, because he’s looking at what he loves and maybe not seeing what’s really going on,” Pelullo said.

WBC governor Rex Walker said there was the added danger to fathers living out their own dreams through their sons’ fists.

“Too many fathers live through their kid in the ring,” Walker said. “They transform from the corner to the kid, and they want to stay in the fight — but they’re not the ones getting hit.”

WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto has his father close at hand during his fights, but not in his corner.

“Most of the breakups between a father and son happen in the corner because so many emotions are involved,” Berto said. “The father tends to step out of his boundary, getting into ‘father mode’ instead of ‘trainer mode.’ You have to be able to separate that.”

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by Brickhaus on Nov 5, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

my problem with this is why not just ban family members from working the corner?

Uncles and cousins and the like could have closer relationships with you than your father. I see where they are coming from, but you could say the same about any relationship with a corner team and the boxer if they got really close.

by cardscott5 on Nov 5, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right, and not even just actual family, but how many “He’s been like a father to me” stories have there been with boxers and trainers? Do you think Ozell Nelson is so much less close to Jermain Taylor? Jack Loew to Kelly Pavlik?

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 5, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised

that fathers don’t make safer cornermen as far as fighter safety is concerned. What man wants to watch his son get seriously hurt?

by Drunken cutman on Nov 5, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The idea is that they push too hard and try to live vicariously through the son. Fathers that involved with their kids’ athletics are often a little weird, even when the kid is now 30 years old.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 5, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah pushy parenting

can be a big problem but I’m still not convinced it causes ring deaths very often. I would really like to see the report as I am quite interested. Hehe maybe I’ll ring Jose Suleiman and ask to see it!

by Drunken cutman on Nov 5, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why...

the law is impractical and this should be the personal decision and responsibility of the family members.

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by Matt Miller on Nov 5, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs


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