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Mike Tyson not welcomed by all in Belfast

Mike Tyson's appearance in Belfast has been met with resistance by women's rights groups in the city. They are very vocal about Tyson's past as a convicted rapist. (Photo via blog.newsok.com)

Mike Tyson's appearance in Belfast has been met with resistance by women's rights groups in the city. They are very vocal about Tyson's past as a convicted rapist. (Photo via blog.newsok.com)

Mike Tyson is currently in Belfast for a personal appearance, and though many across the world have seemed to forgive, forget or just ignore some of the former heavyweight champion's past transgressions, this is a reminder that not everyone is willing to do so.

Women's rights groups are loudly protesting Tyson's appearance as Mike is, as we all know, a convicted rapist.

Eileen Calder of the Rape Crisis Centre in Belfast criticised [Barry] McGuigan for agreeing to take part.

"Barry needs to hang his head in shame," she said. "I have always been a huge fan of his, I even considered naming one of my children after him. He has done so much great work for charities and integrated education. I can’t believe he has agreed to take part in this."

Ms Calder said she felt sick when she heard Tyson would be visiting Belfast.

"Believe me, if this was the other way around, he would not even be allowed into the country. The United States does not allow convicted rapists in, they are interested in protecting their citizens. I would appeal to boxing fans to look beyond his boxing to what he has done — he is a convicted rapist."

Recently, Eric Morel had a planned fight with Hozumi Hasegawa canceled for what Ms. Calder is talking about here. Morel was convicted of statutory rape a few years back and Japanese officials wouldn't grant him entrance to the country for the fight.

Annie Campbell, director of the Women’s Aid Federation, Northern Ireland, added: "We are disgusted that this man who is a rapist and has committed domestic violence has been invited to appear at a flagship venue in Belfast. It raises serious questions of credibility for those who are on the city council."

A council spokeswoman had this to say in response:

"The booking is from a private promoter who is hiring the hall. Belfast City Council does not have a policy that would prevent this event taking place, as this could be construed as a form of censorship."

I found this interesting because of the way Tyson is now treated by most American fans at least, which is like I said, with forgiveness or whatever you might want to call it. But Tyson's past is very real and not everyone is going to be so quick to just say, "Aw, he's changed." I agree that Tyson surely isn't going to Belfast to rape or assault anybody, but he's going to meet resistance like this sometimes. It will never go away.

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Ellen Calder and Annie Campbell

sound like they’re ripe for a hate crime or two.

But seriously, I don’t consider Mike Tyson a rapist. I am not convinced that he’s guilty, even with the conviction. That was a dog-shit defense buy a tax attorney. He may very well have raped her, but I’m not sure ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’, and I don’t think he got a fair shake.

"I swear to God, I'll take this ******* ball and shove it down your ******* throat" - Serena Williams

by lcollins1 on Nov 5, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but he was convicted of rape. It’s about that, not whether or not he had a shitty defense or if the case has its sketchy points. She’s right, other countries wouldn’t even let him in.

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 5, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This language:

“We are disgusted that this man who is a rapist and has committed domestic violence has been invited to appear at a flagship venue in Belfast” does not focus at all on his conviction – it’s a character attack based on what I believe is an unproven conviction. Has she looked into his conviction? What’s her basis for “has committed domestic violence” – that he was convicted of rape, and NOTHING else.

There’s some pretty good evidence that Bill Clinton committed sexual assault more than once, yet he wasn’t convicted. But Belfast rolls out the red carpet for quick finger Bill and tells this guy to fuck off.

I think there’s some racial implications here too.

As I re-read this, I think you’re in the same boat. You’ve convicted him as well without looking into it. Or maybe you have and you do think he got a fair shake. Perhaps it’s not appropriate in every criminal conviction, but the shittiness of this one deserves personal inspection. In my opinion, Tyson’s rape conviction is the anti-OJ. Instead of overwhelming physical evidence, there isn’t shit, yet you and two pudgy hair-pies throw this guy to the wolves. tragic.

"I swear to God, I'll take this ******* ball and shove it down your ******* throat" - Serena Williams

by lcollins1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d modify the tone of that some if I could….

"I swear to God, I'll take this ******* ball and shove it down your ******* throat" - Serena Williams

by lcollins1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s cool — it’s a hot button topic and you’ve been here long enough. (And yes, I do favor regulars over newbies. I can do that!)

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 5, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Clinton is not a convicted rapist. Tyson is. There is the difference. It’s really that simple.

I don’t think Mike Tyson is a person to be admired, no, and it doesn’t offend or even slightly bother me if someone doesn’t want him glorified. Frankly, I don’t think he should be glorified. There’s a reason you’ll never see me write anything particularly pro-Tyson. I’m not a fan; I root for him to live the rest of his life happily, because he’s a human being, did his time, and seems to be settled on some sort of personal peace. I think that’s good. And I also know that that’s a man who worked damn hard to get to where he is on that personal level, too.

But, I am in the same camp as you on his rape trial, and many agree with that. It was handled horribly, there’s a lot to question there, and no, I do not think he got a fair shake.

Why does it surprise anyone that a convicted rapist who has also admitted to domestic violence might be met with some opposition when being put up on a pedestal? Does speaking out against the glorification of Tyson make someone a bad person?

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"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 5, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bottom line: I just pity that dude. When I see a young talented boxer, I just hope he doesn’t end up like Tyson. Ex: James Kirkland

"I swear to God, I'll take this ******* ball and shove it down your ******* throat" - Serena Williams

by lcollins1 on Nov 6, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I hear you. Dougie Fischer said recently he thinks Tyson is going to upset the odds and live a long, healthy life. I think he’s right, and I’m happy for Mike in that regard. Ten years ago, I don’t think a whole lot of us thought we’d be talking about Mike’s personal turnaround in 2009.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 6, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A little racism laced with bullshit...

I wish I could proudly proclaim Britain is without its share of leftist loonies but unfortunately with murder being illegal these people breath the same oxygen as we do.

A lot of these bitches are in groups that use freedom of speech as a pretence for hatred.

When I heard he was going Wales I knew there would be a racial backlash disguised by some other bullshit.

Tyson isn’t exactly a fighter to be glorified but to all my black friends stay out of Wales and Scotland people will find a way to rag on you using double standards they don’t apply to others.

by MannyPacquiao on Nov 6, 2009 5:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah I'm gonna make the decision to close comments on this

I don’t really want to hear entire nations being attacked for being racist. I also don’t want to hear about women who aren’t thrilled that Mike Tyson is coming to town must be “bitches.”

Keep in mind comments such as these will likely result in someone being banned in the future. It’s a news story, it happened, and frankly I don’t want to hear any more about this because I don’t see it going anywhere good.

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Nov 6, 2009 6:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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