Ted the Bull's Top Boxing Awards for 2009
by Bad Left Hook on Dec 13, 2009 6:06 PM EST
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Our own Ted Sares offers up his choices for some boxing awards after a great year for the sweet science. We'll have more awards-type stuff in the coming weeks, including Scott's picks for many of these same categories.
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1. Fighter of the Year: Manny Pacquiao
An easy choice this year. After retiring Oscar De La Hoya late in 2008, he rendered unconscious Ricky Hatton in two and then stopped Miguel Cotto after he finally chased him down in the 12th round. Manny is THE event fighter in boxing going into 2010.
Runner-up: Chad Dawson for his dominating win over Antonio Tarver and his redemptive UD over Glen Johnson. "Bad Chad" may lack charisma but he does not lack skills.
Others: Hozumi Hasegawa, Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym, and Vitali Klitschko.
2. Fight of the Year: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo "Maestrito" Cordoba.
Dunne was dropped and hurt badly twice in the fifth round while his Panamanian opponent was decked in the third and then three times more in the eleventh round after which the fight was finally stopped in front of a roaring crowd in Dublin.
Runner-up: Ricardo "Mochuelo" Torres vs. Raul Pinzon
Decked in the first, fourth and seventh rounds, Torres was well behind going into the 10th and last round. Needing a stoppage, the Colombian bomber (are there any other kind) did a gut check and floored a gassed Pinzon three times in an amazing final round, The end came at 2 minutes and nine-seconds into the final stanza of this Barranquilla Barnburner.
Honorable mention:
Paul Williams vs. Sergio Martinez; a great bout fought at an uncommonly high skill level.
Paul Samuels vs. Cello Renda in a Brit dust up that featured a crunching double knockdown and brutal back and forth until Samuels stopped Renda in the fourth round of a true closet classic.
Round of the Year: Round twelve, Rogers Mtagwa vs. Juan Manuel Lopez
"Juanma" was almost taken out by "The Tiger" from Philadelphia by way of Tanzania, but fought back to survive the grueling round and win the fight with his title on the line. "The Tiger" is the kind of guy that can make this list in different categories every year
4) Breakthrough Fighter of the Year: Yonnhy Perez
At 20-0, he first stopped Silence Mabuza in South Africa in the 12th round to win the IBF bantamweight title eliminator. Then, in a great fight which featured incredible punch volume, he beat Joseph "King Kong" Agbeko to win the title. Though born in Colombia, he has done all of his work in the U.S and mostly in California. This stylist will be tough to dethrone.
Honorable Mention:
Andre Ward was impressive in his four 2009 wins culminating in his beat down of Mikkel Kessler.
Jean Pascal had 4 wins over tough opposition and, like Ward, is now a force to be reckoned with.
5) Upset of the year: Juan Carlos Salgado over Jorge Linares
Undefeated WBA super featherweight champion Linares is dropped twice in the first round by unknown Salgado and loses his title in Tokyo in a shocker.
Runner-up: Danny Green over Roy Jones Jr.
I distinctly remember where I was when Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson, but I doubt I will for this one. Still, it was shocking to see Jones dispatched in one round and I will not soon forget it.
Honorable mention:
Yuri Foreman's surprisingly punishing win over an ill-prepared Daniel Santos to win the WBA 154-pound belt. Even with a solid lead, the aspiring Rabbi refused to fight defensively. Instead, he dropped Santos in the last round to punctuate his great win.
South African fighter Simphiwe Nongqayi upset Mexican boxing superstar Jorge "Travieso" Arce convincingly in Cancun, Mexico on September 16 to win the IBF World junior bantamweight title.
6) KO of the Year: Pacquiao over Ricky Hatton in round two
It was decisive, scary and chilling. It was the kind that should make the victim think about other career options,
Runner-up: Arthur Abraham's last second concussive waxing of Jermain Taylor sealed the deal and left observers worrying about Taylor's future well being.
Honorable mention: Seconds after ESPN announcer Teddy Atlas said "watch out for the right coming down the pike," Randall Bailey delivered on cue in a one-punch icing of Francisco "El Gato" Figueroa on April 4 that affirmed his nickname of "The Knock-Out King." Meanwhile, "El Gato" was sent to feline dreamland.
7) Most Exciting Fighter of the Year: Manny Pacquiao
Who else? With his speed, in-and-out whirlwind style, and malefic punches coming from every angle, he brings electricity into the ring every time he fights.
8) Comeback Fighter of the Year: Sugar Shane Mosley
After so-so performances against Miguel Cotto in 2007 and Ricardo Mayorga in 2008, Sugar Shane was seen as aging and was not expected to do much against the then imposing (but soon to be disgraced) Antonio Margarito who had demolished the same Cotto. Instead, he fought an almost perfect fight destroying the "Tijuana Tornado" in brutal fashion over 9 furious rounds. SSM is back and good to go.
9) Worse Decision of the Year: Ali Funeka vs. Joan Guzman
American judge Joe Pasquale had it right at 116-112. The two Canadian judges had it wrong at 114-114 for a majority draw. All one had to do was to look at Guzman's face at the end of the fight to know how awful this decision was.
10) Trainer of the Year: Freddie Roach
He trains Manny Pacquiao. Enough said. But for some icing on the cake, he also has done a great job with Amir Khan
11) Ugliest Boxing Moment of the Year
Heavyweight Joey Abell's after-the-bell KO over fellow-Minnesota resident Raphael "The Silencer" Butler (35-8) in the first round on December 4 resulted in Butler being silenced with what looked to be a sucker punch. As Butler lay unconscious, his corner man ran into the ring after Abell upon which Abell's corner joined the fray. What ensued was a mini-riot and a no-contest. As an aside, Abell (25-4). though born in and based out of Minnesota, has a 9-1 record at the legendary Blue Horizon in Philadelphia. As well, he has figured in a number of fights with strange and/or exciting endings.
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Funeka v Guzman was unbelievable, but the worst decision of the year had to be Martinez v Cintron. Martinez beat Cintron at least twice in one fight, and still got robbed! Amazing incompetence on the part of the ref and judges .
by ocelot on Dec 13, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just one quibble, Ted: Fight of the Year HAS to be Froch-Taylor. That fight was back and forth action, drama, and gut wrenching stuff and ends with a shocking KO with 14 seconds left. I still watch it once in a while.
by FrankinDallas on Dec 13, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not even top 5 FOTY
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 13, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But check please the youtubes out on the others imentioned, though I can see a great argument frof Taylor-Froch.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor-Froch just annoyed me
I saw the far more skilled Taylor outclass Froch and then gas. I was genuinely angry at what was happening because it was so clear who the better fighter was.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 14, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The better fighter does not get concussed.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure he does
His boxing is way better than Froch’s. Perhaps you can argue that a good boxer would have trained harder and not gassed and I totally agree with that but it’s hard to say that Froch is more skilled than Taylor.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 16, 2009 5:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“a good boxer would have trained harder and not gassed” My point exactly. Sure JT has greater technical skills, but if he cannot use them to their fullest becuase of an innate flaw (stamina), he is NOT the better all-round boxer in my opinion. Froh has terrible skills, but he makes up for them with intangibles such as ferocity and determination.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 16, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's fair enough
I think it’s valid to see it either way. Personally I love watching great technique and skills above pretty much anything else so I’m definitely biased here!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 16, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Peace
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 16, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
However, I do understnad your point and respect your point of view.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 16, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cordoba-Dunne is a front runner FoTY
There’s no doubt about it. If it’s not at east in your top three, then you didn’t see it
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on Dec 13, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
think its at #5 on my list
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 13, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then you didn't see it!!!
Kidding.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on Dec 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, it really was good Axe.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
top 5 out of a million fights is pretty good, but its not as good as my other four (jmm-baby bull, martinez-williams, agbeko-perez, JMLopez-Mtagwa)
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 14, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No complaints on that list
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Dec 14, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
great write up … only place we really differ was foty i think williams martinez, jmm diaz and agbeko perez were all superior fights to the dunne cordoba. as well my pick for rd of the year would be be ortiz maidana rd 1. but i couldnt argue with ur picks cause they are very solid and this is all just option anyway.
ssm is an excellent candidate for come back of the year, never even thought of him. i had chosen mayweather originally but ssm may be the better choice.
Ugliest Boxing Moment of the Year for me has to be the margo hand wraps … that was a terrible incident for boxing.
by boxzilla on Dec 13, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why thanks, zilla! You make a key oint when you say it’s all opinion anyway.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Post--Here's My Take
1. Fighter of the Year: Manny Pacquiao
A no brainer for sure.
2. Fight of the Year: Marquez vs. Diaz
While exciting, I didn’t think Dunne vs. Cordoba was fought at a high enough skill level to get the nod.
Honorable mention:
Solis vs. Viloria is probably the most underrated, under-discussed fight of the year.
Round of the Year: ?
To tell you the truth, I don’t trust myself on this one. I always remember thinking of rounds in fights that I thought were ROTY contenders at the time, but my memory too often fails me, and I forget to write it down. Your pick is certainly a solid one though.
4) Breakthrough Fighter of the Year: Andre Ward
Perez was impressive, but I think Ward got more and better work done in 2009.
5) Upset of the year: Danny Green over Roy Jones Jr.
This is the only upset this year that I heard random people talking about at bars and even on the subway. Personally, I think it is both more surprising at renowned than Salgado/Linares, so I’m going with this one.
6) KO of the Year: Pacquiao over Ricky Hatton in round two
I’m with you on this one. Lately, this is the KO that I show my friends when they either (a) want to know more about Pacquiao or (b) complain that boxing isn’t what it used to be.
7) Most Exciting Fighter of the Year: Manny Pacquiao
Damn straight.
8) Comeback Fighter of the Year: Sugar Shane Mosley
No arguments here. I would throw in Vic as honorable mention, who both fell and climbed in 2009.
9) Worse Decision of the Year: too many to pick one.
Your pick is solid, as is Martinez vs. Cintron. Let’s not forget Holy v Valuev, either, a fight that Value one by doing nothing.
10) Trainer of the Year: Freddie Roach
No doubt.
11) Ugliest Boxing Moment of the Year
Sure you don’t want to change your pick the Margarito incident? That seems like the most clear no-brainer of all to me.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Dec 13, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
typos suck
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
by Matt Miller on Dec 13, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They do
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holyfield/Valuev was December, 2008, I think.
by Nick_ on Dec 13, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I has an award for worse fight, that might have woin it just as King Pin might have won “worse invidua perfomance by a boxer.” God, he stunk that place out like Swiss Cheese
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"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HHmmm. MARGRITO LOOKS AS A POSSIBLE AFTERTHOUGHT INCLUSION IN A NEW CATEGORY CALLED: Dirties moment of the year>
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh ya kayo honerable mentions imo Brian Viloria vs archie solis (also foty top 10) macca ola and Pitalua’s freight train right hand against reyes
by boxzilla on Dec 13, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
oh ya bute andrade body shot kayo was sweeeeeeeeeeeeet … but i am a bute nuthugger
by boxzilla on Dec 13, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Darchinyan’s KO of Rojas last night deserves consideration too.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by SC on Dec 13, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
missed that fight … but i did hear it was good. just about to watch it now actually.
by boxzilla on Dec 13, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I enjoyed it immensly. I did not submit this piece until the fight were over. Man, that Bradley showed me something. Vic is one of my favorites because he has monster heavy hands. At the right weight, he waxes anyone.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who these dudes?
Aside from “Packy and Mosley,” I know very little about these other guys winning all these awards…….. Things like this happen after a guy like me stops buying KO and Ring magazines………. Mags and papers are rapidly going out the door and into the trash…….
In truth, I’m not even sure who my “New” hot-shot boy on the block is these days / daze…… NO! Its NOT Manolo Pacquiao… M.P. is no longer a new face like he was to me back in ’03…. M.P. is now seasoned goods…..
I thought Kelly Pavlik was gonna be my new boy, but his injury and delays have clouded my thinking about him as a serious fighter……. Who else is there that has a real future??? Hmmmmm….. I don’t know……. OH! I like Danny Green, but he is age 36 and his time is short………..
MR.BILL
Raleigh
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
by MRBILL40 on Dec 13, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, i watch scores of fights and score the youtubes on the ones I don’t watch. I also follow Asian fighters as closely as anyone I know, so I have a good fix on what is going on there. Adn since fighters from Africa are my favoriet, I also know what is going on there. All in all, I do a decent job on making sure the unkown guys get their due. You take the Torres-Pinzon. Man, that was a serious drama right till the last few seconds. It has to get its due, Samuels and Renda killed each other in there for 3 furious rounds. Heck, check it out. It was savage. But Cordoba-Dunn was big time back and forth ebb and flow. I think Froch and Tayloy also could well have made this list. Linares was always one of my favorites because of his high skill level. When he got stopped in Toyko (his home base), it was ashoker beyong shock to me. Green beating Jones was not as much as shock as was the way he did it.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But I’m not being defensive here, just explaining my rationale for my picks. I have often stated that serious poster/fans are likely the best experts, because they watch while writers write and miss the action.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KO or Ring doesn’t help all that much with this. This just takes hard research and watching the films. One thing you never want to do with a list like this is post someone or some fight without having seen it (at least the footage).
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i can’t take any FOTY list seriously without JMM-Baby bull in at least the top 2
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 13, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
AArrrggh!
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey man, doom as in metal? lml
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
by Goatsnake on Dec 14, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can answer that for him
Yes! He loves him some metal.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 14, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol yes i do love me some metal, but the handle is mostly an inside joke between my high school pals. starting using it for xbox live, ps3, and other forums and it stuck
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 14, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine
1. Pacquiao
2. Dunne-Cordoba as well (we’re in the minority here)
3. Diaz-Marquez, Rd. 4
4. Timothy Bradley
5. Salgado over Linares as well
6. Pac-Hatton
7. Pac
8. Cristobal Cruz
9. Cintron-Martinez or Gevor-Sturm
10. Roach
11. Billy Dib’s ‘win’ over Kenichi Yamaguchi, where he knocked him out when he was on the ground, and then he went over to Yamaguchi’s corner and started a fight with them
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
by Brickhaus on Dec 13, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We are close. I remeber the Billy Dib’s thing. Very ugly, almost as ugly as the way he fights. BTW, can we post Youtubes on here? Reason I ask is that the one on Abell-Butler is a fun one to watch.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bill, now that you are posting on a mature website, you will be learning about more boxers.
by FrankinDallas on Dec 13, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Indeed. This is more than Pavlik, Pavlik and just Pavlik.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why thank you, Pug. How are thinbgs in Las Vegas?
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait until the kiddies find out about BLH!!!
This site is growing, where as ESB is full blown……. When all the newbie kids / nimrods and young punks find out about Badlefthook, the scum will begin to surface and you’ll see and read all the bizarre and lame posts, along with the nonsensical bickering arise….. Its coming………… Nothing clean and pure can remain that way forever…. At least not on Earth anyway……. Cheers guys……….
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
by MRBILL40 on Dec 13, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we’ve already had some nimrods, and they’ve been banned so no worries about this site eventually going to hell
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 13, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s why I’m here Axe of Doom. BTY , I like that moniker
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah SC doesn't really put up with the idiots and blatant haters here
If they’re just dim then that’s fine but if they are at all corrosive then they usually get told how to shut up :)
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 14, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I’m not so sure about that. BLH has some pretty damn high standards and if the scum (and we both know damn well who those rrealtivel few are) begin to show uop, they just might get cut off at the knees. No, I don’t think they are vthat dumb to even try.
This is for serious boxing fans, not haters or pychos (speling).. Speaking of which, I just watched “Lucas the Drfiter.” Claims he and his bud killed 350, but the law could never confirm that. Now that was seriously sick guy.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There were so many excellent fights this year that it’s hard to pick just one, but I can’t think of a fight that literally kept me on the edge of my seat like Williams v Martinez. What a tremendous way to end the year and what a battle.
by ocelot on Dec 13, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was a great one, no doubt.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rewatching Marciano-Louis at the moment on ESPNCL. Louis didn’t look all that bad, actually, but Rock was slashing him with the overhand right from the first bell.
They also replayed Marciano-Layne, and AGAIN, I see lots of good things to like about Layne. I se all the things Fleisher liked in him and more. Layne would beat up someone like Boytsov or Estrada, but would get mauled by an Arreola or embarrassed by a Povetkin or Chambers. Layne would also beat David Haye, Valuev and Dimentrenko.
"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb
by jrok on Dec 13, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rex Layne was a load. His fighte with Satterfield (which I saw as a youngster) was memorable. It was a closet classic. Bob was hammering him and had him out on his feet when all of a sudden Rex caufgght him and that was that. As for Arreola, maybe yes, maybe no.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 13, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My top ten
1. Fighter of the Year: Manny Pacquiao
This choice is pretty easy
2. Fight of the Year: Marquez vs. Diaz
Just for kicks I got the Cruz-Solis fight as tied for second with PWill-Martinez. Cruz-Solis was insane. So many point deductions and it was still getting out of hand.
3) Round of the Year: PWill-Martinez Rd. 1
In that first round you know both that it was on, and that this was going to be an amazing fight!
4) Breakthrough Fighter of the Year: Andre Ward
He’s my boy!
5) Upset of the year: Prospects
Such a bad year for up-and-coming fighters that I’m just going to put all of them here
6) KO of the Year: Pick a Jermain Taylor fight….
Sorry its true
7) Most Exciting Fighter of the Year: Alfredo Angulo
The man doesn’t know how to make an unexciting fight
8) Comeback Fighter of the Year: Sugar Shane Mosley
Yup
9) Worse Decision of the Year: Anyone to watch a Klitschko fight
Man they were involved in some terrible fights…See what I did with the wording there…
10) Trainer of the Year: Freddie Roach
No brainer…
by waldo47 on Dec 14, 2009 4:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
make it top 11
you forgot ugliest moment of the year :p
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 14, 2009 5:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going with
Cruz-Solis fight. Just watch it, its ridiculous. Headbutts, low blows, super-confusing moments, its got it all. Literally a train wreck that you can’t stop watching.
by waldo47 on Dec 14, 2009 5:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i saw it on azteca
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Dec 14, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HHmmmm. Not bad, not bad at all.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 14, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did, Very clever, Waldo. I made one of those decisions Late Saturday night. Ugh.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 14, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ted,
Looks like you did some serious research on this. How much did you actually see?
by dollarbond on Dec 14, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, all of it either live on TV or on youtube. I did it and redid it several times before I was satified. You hvae to detach your personal bias from what you put down. For example, I saw a lot of bad descions, but Funeka-Guzman was beyond bad.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 14, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ted, what fight would you like to see most in 2010?
by pugknows on Dec 14, 2009 11:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rematch of Martinez vs. Margorito.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also like Marquez/Diaz and the Williams/
Martinez fights. Manny as the best and most exciting of the year, yes. Loved watching Perez and am becoming a Bradley fan. Shane was outstanding in his dismantling of Margo, and Roach seems to understand breaking down a fighter’s game as well anyone in the sport. As far a Klit and Safety-Pin: If only Manny weighed in at a lean, hard 225lb. or so.
by Don From Prov on Dec 14, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ted, I knew you were going to pick Pacquiao as the fighter of the year. The rest of the decisions were fun to read too.
by CSMAnderson on Dec 14, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dunne Cordoba
Dunne Cordoba is without doubt The Fight Of The Year! You have the amazing atmosphere, multiple knockdowns, both fighters cut, momentum swings, dramatic and spectaclar knockout in the final second of round 11 resulting in a win for the underdog …what more can you ask for?! And whoever said that this fight was not fought at a high enough skill level needs to rewatch the fight as Dunne and Cordoba are two of the most skilled fighters at 122. The only people complaining about this fight getting the top spot are guys who think it was not high profile enough or those who obviously haven’t watched the fight. Froch Taylor shouldn’t even be in the top 10, Froch was being outclassed for 12 rounds until Taylor ran out of steam, it was hardly an amazing spectacle now was it?
by AndyLee on Dec 14, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I thought as well, lad!
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My Take On Ted's Awards.
1. Manny fighter of the year, yep. 2. I’ll go with Froch and Taylor as my best fight of the year .3. Round of the year Williams v Martinez round one. 4.Andre Ward and Tim Bradley tied for the breakthrough Award. 5. Agreed Ted , Linares getting smashed in a round was my biggest upset of the year as well. 6 .Definitely Mannys destruction of Hatton as Kayo of the year. 7. Ditto Pac as most exciting fighter. 8. Ditto Mosely . 9. The worst two decisions in fights I actually got to watch this year were Cintron v Martinez and Cotto v Clottey. Froch over Dirrell stunk as well . 10. Roach and Nazim Richardsons effort in training Mosely to beat Margarito Ted. Great game plan ! 11. Definitely Margarito and his loaded gloves for mine . Cheers Ted , take it easy blokes.
by JC40 on Dec 14, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ward would have to be my breakthrough fighter. The guy outright schooled the second best SMW of the last five years. Ward went from 0 to 60 mph in one fight. Amazing.
by ocelot on Dec 14, 2009 6:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Eh...sort of
Not really a completely unknown fighter. He did put a good bruising on Miranda earlier in the year, so to say he came out of nowhere is a little untrue. I mean he had a better resume than Allan Green coming into the Super Six, and Allan has been a top 10 SMW for a bit of time.
by waldo47 on Dec 14, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh…Nobody’s taken Miranda seriously since before the Pavlik fight, and even then he was at best a promoter’s creation with a big punch. Plus, he was a MW. Ward went from fighting B and C-level fighters, such as Miranda, to destroying the top SMW in the world.
by ocelot on Dec 14, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
manny paquaio
Most covered fighter of they year…most talked about fighter of the year..most ’hyped ’ fighter of the year…Manny Pacquaio…..
We are being greased to line up and pay to see a good…or even real good 144 pound fighter step in with a ‘way past real good fighter’ who will weigh 160 pounds when the bell rings.
To make this ‘fight’ ..we are being led down the hall that tells us just what a superhuman guy this Pacquaio is…and what fantastic talent he has..and what devestatin power and accuracy he has with his combinations….and what a GREAT BATTLE this will be !!!
..at the end of the day ..we will get fucked out of $75 bucks….and see broke damned near rape Pacquiao..and the fight will be stopped early. The warmth and praise to Pacquaio is meant to get us to buy the mismatch
by bikermike on Dec 14, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah or else people actually really like Pacquiao and it’s the only fight in boxing that the public demands. I don’t know, there’s that in addition to your weird fables about “hype” being all Pacquiao brings to the table.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by SC on Dec 14, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this comment a joke?
I mean seriously, what are you smoking?
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 15, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they did kind of say the same thing when he fought Oscar, then Hatton, then Cotto. And he proved “them” wrong. Of course, PBF is not Hatton, Cotto, or Oscar.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
deja vu
Ted….who was that nice clean kid …university student/graduate…..from the fifties..sixties….The Television thing was just happening..and there were as many as six fights on TV every week…
…anyway…the ‘kid’ was getting all kinds of praise and attention…..was out pointing all his opponents….couldn’t say enough about him…..
…and then the put him in with Kid Gavilan
I see the same formula being used to make Pacquiao look like he shits lightning and farts thunder….
can punch a hole in a brick wall…
can snatch flies out of the air with his hand speed and accuracy
is in incredible physical condition…(his trainer says so..!!)
by bikermike on Dec 14, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So now you’re arguing that Pacquiao is not in incredible physical condition?
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by SC on Dec 14, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rage
This comment makes me.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 15, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The fight we want to see in 2010
OK….here’s the thing….Shane Mosley is argueably…the top Welter Weight of the field(s)…mayweather is a WelterWeight..but is blowing smoke up our ass to sell us the pacman vs mayweather …..a clear mismatch.
Once that performance/slaughter has been completed….most folks want to see mayweather vs Mosley.
by bikermike on Dec 14, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why is it a clear mismatch?
Please enlighten us and the rest of the boxing world who are so foolishly labouring under the impression that Pacquiao is a great fighter who will give mayweather easily the biggest challenge of his career. I mean this Bert Sugar guy says that Pacquiao is the greatest left handed fighter of all time and one of the greatest fighters of all time but what does he know? Tell us why he’s wrong oh boxing genius bikermike! Oh and without horribly misusing ellipses (the series of dots) please!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 15, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bert Sugar!!. Pac is truly great. No argument. However, I am clearly inb the PBF camp on this one. No more hesitation and I’ll explian in an article down the road. Suffice to say that PBF is the guy who handled with ease the same gut who gave Pac fits. But it’s premature to get into this war just yet. BTW, I do want Pac to win. My heart sayd Pac; my wallet says PBF at this point, anyway.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But because Bert Sugar says it does not make it any more credible than if you or I or any other solid boxinfg fan says it. Bert is a writer/observer. I like Bert and know him well. But writers write; they are not necessarily experts when it comes to assessing a fighter or handicapping a fight. Just my opinion. Don’t get me wrong , there are a couple out there whose opinion means a whole lot to me when I am about to handicap a fight, but not many.
Like I said, just my opinion.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I generally view
Sugar’s observations as far more valuable than most people’s due to his vast experience and considerable knowledge. Obviously everyone is entitled to his own opinion but I was using Sugar as an example of a respected boxing expert to show that the general intelligent consensus in the sport is that Pacquiao is a very, very good boxer.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 16, 2009 5:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the consensus. But I would never rely on Bert as an"expert" when handicapping a fight. Our opininds differ which is why boxing is such a great sport. The subjectivity of it makes it subject to opinion rtaher than quantification
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 16, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Solid stuff Ted
Marquez/Diaz gets my FOTY – tough, tough fight. Skilful, extremely aggressive, clinical finish – nice work. Agbeko/Perez was dynamite too. (haven’t seen Dunne/Cordoba or Williams/Martinez yet). Hon mention to Mosley/Margo, great fight, brutal KO.
PacMan – fighter of the year and the H-bomb he dropped on Hatton was the most impressive, one punch, stone cold knockout this year. Awesome punch, vicious fight too, while it lasted.
Ward – breakout performance vs Kessler, Froch/Dirrell, Cintron/Martinez worst dec.
Trainer..? Freddie for his continued fine tuning of Manny and polishing of Khan. Props to Naazim for breathing life into Mosley. Richardson’s brilliant in the corner also, nobody lays it out better IMO. Ugliest moment….? Margo. Although instant karma being the bitch she is turned that one around. Arreola’s weeping was another low point.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
by Goatsnake on Dec 15, 2009 9:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
One corener I was really impressed by this year was that of Paul Williams
Great calm advice which helped him a lot throughout the fight. Even when Paul came back after being put down they were relaxed and very helpful.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 15, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Calm advice in the midst of battle. That's what I'm looking for.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
by Goatsnake on Dec 16, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cordoba-Dunne is available in good quality on YouTube and well, well worth watching.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by SC on Dec 15, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm on it - cheers Scott!
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
by Goatsnake on Dec 16, 2009 8:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is instant karma who I think she is?
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha - yes she is!
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
by Goatsnake on Dec 16, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahahahaha
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 16, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Davey
Chuck Davey , Biker Mike . Thats the bloke you are thinking of . The first TV fighter . Lost to Gavilan by 10th round kayo in the early 50s. Cheers mate.
by JC40 on Dec 15, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So we’re comparing what Manny Pacquiao has done to Chuck Davey. For God’s sake.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by SC on Dec 15, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But he beat Chico Vejar twice.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck graduated from Michigan State and was a fine technician. He had some great wins in his career and when he fought Chico Vejar, it was white collar vs blue collar. I have each of their photos on my site becuase I saw each of them fight many times back in the 50’s. Chuck was a product of NCAA boxing which I also did. Wisconson had the best teams back then. Some day, I’ll do an article on college boxing which ended in 1959. Not sure the interest level, however.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds cool, never read anything on college boxing before.
However, we did box at high school in the UK as part of our phys ed. But Tyldesley, being the classy place it was, (translation = shithole with no playing field, full of nutters ) only had one pair of old gloves! So we had to argue over who got the left or the right and fight with one glove each, under strict instruction not to belt the head-case in front of you with your bare fist. That all went to shit as soon as the first clean punch landed. Our PE teacher had zero control and spent the entire class breaking up every scrap . Good times.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
by Goatsnake on Dec 16, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I remeber the Gavilan ko like it happened yesterday. That was a shocker becuase everyone had bought into the Davey hype, but the smart money knew how it would play out. “The Keed” had a great night. It was televised.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Email from Famed poster Ray Gordon Reid
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"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 15, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is Ray Gordon Reid allowed to post on BLH?
Ted,
Is RGR allowed to post on Badlefthook, or is he fully banned like he is on ESB? He means well…. In regards to murdering the English language on paper, he’s still a good guy who loves the fight game…. I’ll cut him some slack……. Cheers……
MR.BILL
Bill Petersen
MR.BILL
Raleigh, N.C.
by MRBILL40 on Dec 16, 2009 12:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No, he simply is having trouble logging in.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 16, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ray knows his stuff. He is a very fine historian.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 16, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Manny, started out at 106 lbs…easily one of thhe greatest lbflb warriors of all times.
by AndroidMullen on Dec 17, 2009 4:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
For certain!
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 17, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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