Bad Left Hook Boxing Awards: Ugliest Story of 2009
When talking about "ugly" stories in boxing, any number of things can apply. For the record, I don't put deaths in this category. Death is a subject a bit heavier than web site boxing awards. I think we had a clear "winner" this year for sure.
WrapGate: Margarito and Capetillo Sully the Sport
When January's welterweight title fight between Mexican monster Antonio Margarito and faded Shane Mosley was signed, many of us felt it was a foregone conclusion, or at least most likely that was the case. Mosley was old, and looked pretty bad in his September 2008 fight against crummy Ricardo Mayorga, a fighter he for all intents and purposes should have crushed. That was the way Mosley's old rival and current business partner Oscar de la Hoya dealt with Mayorga in 2006, and Ricardo certainly hadn't gotten better.
Though weight (154 pounds has never been Shane's strong suit) and out-of-ring distractions played a role in the Mayorga near-debacle, Mosley just didn't look like the Sugar Shane we knew.
Promoter Lou DiBella famously said after Mosley-Mayorga that if Mosley signed to fight Margarito, Shane would be put "in a pine box." DiBella had no interest in either fighter, either; he promotes neither of them. He was just saying what he felt, and many echoed the statement.
Mosley and Margarito showed up in January ready to go. Margarito had some trouble making weight, and Mosley was working with trainer Naazim Richardson for the very first time. He had also recently split with his wife and manager, Jin. Questions swirled around the fight.
And then the big one came.
As Margarito walked to the ring, HBO's Jim Lampley alerted the audience at home that there had been some controversy in the dressing room. Margarito's hand wraps had been called into question by Richardson, and needed to be re-wrapped several times before Mosley's trainer was pleased enough to go on with the fight.
The wraps were confiscated. It was weighing on the mind watching the fight, but once it got cooking, that fell by the wayside. Shane Mosley mauled and pounded on Margarito for nine rounds until both the referee and Margarito's corner came in to stop the onslaught at the same time.
A dazed Margarito could only look up, wondering what had gone wrong. At least, that's how it seemed in the moment.
After the fight, the wraps came back into play. That night, it was only speculation for most. In the coming days, the level of trouble got worse by the day, it seemed. Mosley's attorney said "flecks of substance" were found on the wraps. The California State Athletic Commission temporarily suspended the fighter pending investigation. The Billy Collins-Luis Resto disgrace was back on the minds of the sport.
On February 10, Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo went before the CSAC for their hearing. When all was said and done, the defense seemed mostly to attempt to throw Capetillo under the bus, claiming Margarito did not "knowingly" cheat. But the verdict was clear: Margarito and Capetillo were both indefinitely suspended, their licenses revoked, with the ability to appeal in a year's time.
Margarito's entire career has since been called into question. Whether that's fair or not is another story. The fact is, that's the way it's always going to be. He's got a big, black cloud hanging over everything he's ever done in boxing.
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uy mal y mucho despicado!
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 26, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions
As much as I want to think the good guy won,
and as much as I used to like Sugar Shane, I can’t get over the EPO/BALCO issues. It seems to be something that is swept under the carpet by the boxing media to a certain extent, which I find a bit strange. I also find it strange that DLH has such a close relationship with a man who cheated against him at least once (if you believe Grand Jury transcripts); then again, Oscar hardly comes across as Mr Integrity these days, does he?
Doctoring your wraps is despicable, and all of Margarito’s memorable wins will rightly have an asterisk next to them in our minds; but is what he did any worse than taking EPO? This is a drug that is intended to help you fight at a high intensity for longer: it won’t give you quick KOs if you’re not already a banger; it should, however, let you come on stronger than your non-doped opponent in the championship rounds – a time when significant, permanent damage can be done to dehydrated fighters. I’m sure Shane is a nice guy (he always seemed it – or at least he did until playing the heel after the PBF-JMM fight), but sometimes nice guys cheat, too.
Doctoring your wraps is despicable, and all of Margarito’s memorable wins will rightly have an asterisk next to them in our minds; but is what he did any worse than taking EPO?
I feel it is considerably worse, to be honest. PEDs don’t generally work the way most people think they do. They don’t turn you into Superman, is what I mean — I’m also not saying YOU think this way.
But there’s no doubt what doctored handwraps do, and they raise the risk of seriously injuring or even killing a man, which is something every boxer puts on the line in every fight anyway.
Not that I’m saying Shane is a saint, either.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 26, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Fair comment
I was asking the question, that’s all, and I’m no expert on PEDs; however, something that gave me an edge late in a tough fight could prove extremely hazardous to the health of my opponent. Doctoring wraps is very, very bad: I’m not saying it isn’t, and I’m not trying to make Margarito out to be anything less than a villain. What I am trying to say is that although Margarito’s crime evokes a visceral, immediate reaction from people (me included), there’s more than one way to unfairly put the hurt on somebody. You don’t have to be Superman to maim or kill in the ring: unfortunately, sometimes, it’s enough just to be slightly better than your opponent on the night, especially in those late rounds.
absolutely
I’m not defending Shane, just saying I don’t want there to be any softening on the Margarito stance simply because Shane Mosley is — in the opinions of many — also a dick (to put it bluntly). One doesn’t make the other better or worse, is all.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 26, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
The Line
Here is the difference between these two infractions. One was a man trying to gain an edge, trying to improve his own boxing skills. The other was trying to give himself unnatural power and quite literally open the possibility of killing another boxer in the ring. There is a slight line between athletic advantage and attempted murder in boxing but I think these two incidents illustrate it perfectly.
by Waldo Rastel on Dec 27, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Think about this how many paydays have Martinez and Cintron lost because Margarito might have used loaded gloves…
There is no reason to have faith in Margarito…
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
probably none, honestly
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 26, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Lets say they kept their 0s on their record… they were both knocked out. Right or wrong losing that 0 is detrimental to a fighters career when he is trying to break into the limelight.
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
It's a fair comment....
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
That’s true, but I’m talking specifically Martinez and Kermit. Sergio’s career has been handled oddly overall, and I really don’t think Kermit has lost any paydays from the Margarito losses. Those appeared to be “style” losses to most, and Cintron’s rep never REALLY sagged from either of them. He got accused of being a quitter somewhat, but I think his status would be the same with or without the two losses to Margs.
I could also be horribly wrong and you could be 100% right, so there’s that.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 26, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd, because this is how you're supposed to disagree.
With reason and an open mind.
"I'm not God - but I am something similar", Roberto Duran
Martinez has said that he doesn't think Margarito used the wraps in his lose.
He said he simple wasn’t experienced enough for a fighter like Margo. Also not to many paydays to be had in Spain.
Cintron might of lost a payday against someone like Cotto or Mosley but I think he would have lost either of those fights so he loses 1 payday.
Margarito vs Martinez 2
I read that SM Said he want’s to figh Margarito Again, if he gets his License Back and the Check him. I wouldn’t mind seeing that Fight. it’s hard to know if his gloves were Loaded in those fights as well. We will have to wait and see what happens in March.
Yeah, Sergio sounds totally willing to fight Margarito again. If he gets his license back, I guess why not? I think I’ve decided that I’ll go ahead and not harp on the one night forever and just let his career play out as it plays out (Margarito’s).
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 26, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think Martinez, in retrospect, is one of the best wins on Margarito's record.
I also think he’ll destroy him in a rematch.
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
Sorry, I mean;
I think Martinez will destroy Margarito in a rematch…..
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
I’d agree on both counts. I’m not crazy about Margarito as a 154-pound fighter. A lot of what made him so great at 147 (can of worms) was size and strength, which he loses at 154.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 26, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Also....
The blueprint for how to beat Toni has been laid out by Mosley.
Punch round corners, hit him in the temple. I’ve said a few times on here that there is a big difference between “chin” and “punch resistance”, and Toni is the personification of the difference.
Cotto punched straight as a die, hit him on the chin with some real nasty shots (as did Cintron, Williams, Clottey) and he walked through them like they were nothing.
Mosley (no doubt on the instruction of Nazim Richardson) didn’t hit him on the chin until the 8th round, or, if you like, until the fight was over as a contest. Instead he focussed all his shots on the temples, which was turning Toni’s head sideways rather than forcing it backward, which has a completely different kind of concussive effect, as well as a dizzying one.
While some fighters show the ability to take shots anywhere (Hopkins, Andrade, Johnson, Toney, Tua) and not be fazed, Toni shows that it’s possible to have an all-time-great chin and not have the best punch resistance in the world.
Martinez isn’t stupid, and I’d expect to see lots of lateral movement, with counter hooks to the side of Toni’s head from the get-go. I think Martinez would stop him too.
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
and the award goes to......"The Ten Dollar Tijuana Whore" - Tony Margarito!!
My only wish for Margo is that his return coincides with Kirkland’s release. We get to see the ‘Chaos100 Theory’ played-out in full, devastating effect.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
He would indeed
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 26, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Well Martinez isn’t exactly young… he is 34 and no one wants to fight him. Ironic don’t you think?
"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."
Bloody hell.... I never realized he was that old.....
I had him about 28/29….
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
Margo's moving to 154 anyway
Make it happen. I for one would enjoy watching Margo get his ass kicked again.
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Lou DiBella famously said after Mosley-Mayorga that if Mosley signed to fight Margarito, Shane would be put “in a pine box.”
Spoken like a true scumbag (promoter) – the same guy who tried to sell us on his sincere (?) comments over Jermain’s retirement. Yeah right Lou.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
DiBella gave up a lot of money on two more guaranteed major fights involving Jermain when he cut ties with him. I have no idea what you think DiBella would have to gain by no longer promoting Taylor and explaining why.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 27, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Lou also promotes Allan Green, the Super Six alternate. Perhaps he feels Green has a better shot at winning the whole thing – and therefore stands to make a $ub$tantial gain.
Promoter = warm and fuzzy? I aint buying it mate.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
If he thinks that Green
canwin one fight in the super six, let alone the whole thing, then he needs his head checked.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 28, 2009 7:21 AM EST up reply actions
OK, but the decision to pull Taylor from the Super Six is Jermain Taylor’s decision, not anyone else. Showtime isn’t going to pull him out if he doesn’t want to come out, and Allan Green remains out of the conversation.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 28, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions

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