Mayweather-Pacquiao Update: Arum, Schaefer holding their ground
The Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Manny Pacquiao situation is moving around, but saying it's improving would be a bit of a stretch. Right now, the fight is still "off," or at least that's the story we're getting. I'm having a genuinely hard time believing that this entire process isn't just a bunch of hype B.S., which is why I haven't said very much about any of it. I can't bring myself to take this all that seriously. It just reeks of crap to talk about on "24/7."
But regardless, Dan Rafael of ESPN.com reports that the Mayweather side has agreed that the USADA doesn't have to be the drug testing agency used. Freddie Roach considers their tactics to be a form of harassment, and Pacquiao steadfastly refuses to deal with them.
Richard Schaefer had this to say about that situation:
"We are OK to move off USADA. What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective. Three of them we have agreed on -- random, blood and urine. So now it is a matter of the two sides working out the specifics of the cutoff date to assure it will still be effective."
You know, there was once a time in sports when the word "urine" didn't pop up quite so frequently.
Speaking with Michael Marley of the Examiner, Bob Arum calls Schaefer a liar:
"It is not true, it is just not true. He is making this up now because he looks bad. He is making this up because he is trying to justify it to Mayweather. Let’s see if he can justify it to Mayweather why this fight is now dead."
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Pretty much everyone is in agreement that Paulie Malignaggi would be a rather bizarre choice for replacement opponent on March 13, if Pacquiao does keep the date and Floyd isn't his opponent.
After all, Malignaggi said just after Pacquiao's win over Miguel Cotto that he felt Pacquiao was doing something illegal. Keep in mind that Floyd Jr. has never said anything of the sort about Pacquiao. He's listening to his father and his uncles, Roger and Jeff, and maybe to a few other folks he trusts.
Malignaggi said it himself. It's also an odd choice given that Malignaggi is a 140-pound fighter, and with all due respect to Malignaggi, he's no welterweight and he probably knows that. I'd feel good for Paulie getting the payday, but other than that, whatever. I've got an incredibly little amount of interest in that fight, or in Pacquiao taking on Yuri Foreman.
I have even less interest in the (lightly) rekindled Mayweather-Matthew Hatton discussions. Talk about your all-time crocks of dung.
I'd make a joke about Floyd forcing Matthew Hatton to undergo Olympic-level drug testing, but I really mean it when I say that I just cannot take this whole thing seriously yet. I know it's being treated like a funeral and everyone is losing their wigs over it, but for whatever reason it's just not convincing to me. Maybe I'm so stuck on the gigantic stacks of money they'd be leaving on the table, and the knowledge that Floyd and Manny both love their money, and that Arum and Schaefer are both quality businessmen who know this is not an opportunity to let pass you over.
But for the sake of argument, say this whole deal is really in serious jeopardy. Then I can offer only one thought. Boxing has built up a lot of goodwill in the last couple of years. Folks have come back to the sport, and have come to it for the first time, and business has picked up. While still a niche sport (which will always be the case), boxing has gotten itself back up near the level of where UFC is at in America, and for the biggest fights, boxing still seems to capture the general public's interest a bit more than even Dana White's machine.
But if Pacquiao-Mayweather truly falls apart, boxing pisses that goodwill away in America. If they offer farces like Pacquiao-Foreman, Pacquiao-Malignaggi or Mayweather-Matthew Hatton, a lot of people are going to see right through this crap, declare boxing corrupt again, ruled by men that don't care a lick for the sport's best interests.
And frankly, they'll probably be right. Letting this fight dissolve would be an enormous blow to boxing's present and future. There is NO suitable substitute fight, nothing that will get the watercooler talk going anywhere near this level. Mayweather-Marquez and Cotto-Pacquiao were big, big fights. Huge fights. Mayweather-Pacquiao is quite literally a combination of the buzz those two fights generated. We're talking about a fight that is potentially going to threaten the all-time PPV record and likely break the records in Vegas, too.
It can't not happen. And that's why I don't think there's a very good chance it gets called off for real.
(Malignaggi photo by John Gichigi / Getty Images)
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Remember Pac wants to punch back
I dont find Malignaggi odd for Pac’s next to be opponent, after all Pac announced that he want his doubter to come up on the rinmg where he could punch back.
well, either on the ring or on the court.
How "mad" is Manny?
If Manny is as mad as he acts… why not just take the tests and kick Mayweather’s ass. His actions are really crushing his image… and possibly his legacy.
You can say… well Mayweather is being a jerk or ridiculous asking for these blood tests… so what’s new? That’s his image anyway is it not?
I smell the same stink as the late 90’s baseball fiasco over performance enhancing drugs.
Mayweather doesn't deserve the payday
I was enthused about getting ringside tickets to the Pacquiao/PBF fight, but after Goldenboy’s endorsement about Floyd Sr.’s offhand steroid remark, forget it.
I don’t want to reward Mayweather for his side’s attempt at character assassination.
I’d still go if the fight happens, but I’d rather watch a fight with someone more deserving like Mosley. I want to watch a fight, not a chase.
AGREED!
Mayweather v Matthew Hatton-‘All time croc of dung’. LOL! Absolutely.
What was it Lovemore NDou said about Hatton: ’He’s a donkey trying to be a racehorse’.H’e s living off his brother’s name’.
True.
Why Paulie you ask?
Well I think I know. Paulie is also accusing Manny of PEDs but he is also willing to fight him under Nevada rules. Not like Mayweather. If muffin hands Paulie is willing to fight Manny, then Floyd is a class underneath him. So it’s all mind games. But that would be hilarious that Paulie is going to take on Manny instead of Floyd.
100% agreement
I absolutely aggree with the author analysis.
I also share aspalmer84’s point of view.
People can spin as much as they want, one thing is a fact:
The BIGGER looser if this fight does not happen will be Manny Pacquiao:
Both fighters loose huge potential revenue; however Mayweather keeps is reputation intact, even improve his as “Mr Clean”. On the other hand, Manny’s reputation and legacy would be tainted forever. What can make a fighter turn down 40 millions because of 10 ml of his blood? Think about it/…
The seed that had once been planted by Mayweather Sr in the people’s mind has now germinated fully. The roots of the sprout are now deeply embbeded in people’s mind.
Manny’s Legacy in Jeopardy.
I find this whole thing just disgusting, and frankly it makes me want to just bury my head in the sand until it is resolved. If the point of all of this was to generate interest and controversy, it has had the opposite effect, at least on this fan. I don’t want to hear about it. Read about it. Nothing. The whole thing is one big shit sandwich as far as I’m concerned.
Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"
I’m in that same boat right now. Tell me the fight is a done deal, or STFU. I don’t care about your stupid quibbles, give me good news or just say negotiations are ongoing. You don’t need to broadcast to the whole public how ugly these negotiations get.
by Waldo Rastel on Dec 27, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Floyd did comment about “the best PED’s come out of the philippines” or something similar but wouldn’t talk any more about it. If it is a hype job its making everyone involved look bad which could loose some casual fan interest
"Good, so it can’t go any deeper." - Arturo Gatti after being told he was cut to the bone
I see how people could think this but i dont think Pacquiao would agree to having his reputation tarnished just to sell more PPV buys.Saying that,maybe they cause a big fuss,generate more interest and then Pac agrees to all the tests and clears his name.I dn’t think this is the case to be honest but you never know what these promoters will do to make money.
Pac doesn't have to be "in on it".
He could be an unwilling participant, or an ignorant one, and the effect remains the same.
Boxing is the beginning of all sports. I'm willing to bet that the first sport was a man against another man in a fight. (Omar Epps)
I don't know the motive
but I don’t blame Floyd at all for wanting random blood testing. It’s his brain. The shit’s everywhere and it’s legit. I refuse to bitch at Floyd on this one.
"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"
At the very least, when you are the lb for lb best – you need to be in a competitive bout. Which is why I vote for someone like Timothy Bradley. Unfortunately even though he is worthy he will just be looked at as a consolation prize. But lets be honest if this fight doesn’t happen then everything else is as big a letdown as you can think of in the sport.
Does anyone know if it is possible to give Andre Berto some step aside money to step in for Floyd? Who am I kidding – I don’t think Freddie Roach has any intention to step in with Sugar Shane and Arum will still be dealing with Golden Boy – who may again have the gall to ask for blood tests in that fight. However, Shane seems like the type who would be agreeable to these random tests up until the night of the fight because he wants to “clean up” his reputation.
Hustler for Death, No Heaven for a Gangster
If Shane could land a fight with Pacquiao or Mayweather I think he’d agree to have a dwarf follow him around every waking moment of his life to keep an eye on him every moment before the fight.
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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 27, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
That would be a damn wierd interview on 24/7!
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 27, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
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people it may not be very logical for pacman not to take the USADA but thing is he’s never been caught once for the illegal substance so u gotta give him the benefit of the doubt here pls be fair yea. as a fellow countryman of this guy I kinda understand that he comes from a place where people are kinda superstitious and he hasnt even finished highschool so he’s definitely no doctor. Pacman just doesnt want his blood to be taken anytime they want to because he needs 4 days to recover from the weakening feeling. I may not be there physically but it’s there in his head so I mean if you were in his position and ur up against the biggest fight in your entire career, wouldnt u start doubting your punching power days before the fight when blood is taken from you. People he has done nothing but to keep quiet about this matter and now he’s serioiusly pissed off so he’s filing a lawsuit against the mayweathers and gbp which I think is a very good move. Even if they make the fight or not I think he should go for the lawsuit just to make them pay for what they have done. They were so immature in making these comments and they were uncalled for to be honest. There is no need for this kind of childish comments and obviously it has made a lot of people believe this hearsay which is kinda sad because we know how to use a computer and yet we listen to a crackhead like floyd sr come on people ur way smarter than that. U DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEY SAY IN THE MEDIA. ALOT OF THEM ARE CRAP STORIES. THERE HAS TO BE SOME CREDIBILITY TO THE PERSON BEFORE YOU EVEN START THINKING ABOUT IT. NEVER CAUGHT ONCE GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OFTHE DOUBT.
Hey buddy your caps locks key has become stuck
;-)
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 27, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Pacquiao-Foreman
I think a fight with Foreman is far more interesting than a Malignanni fight.
Manny would be going for his 8th world title and at a higher weight against a young unbeaten opponent. I think this has more possible intrigue than his previous fight with Cotto.
However
Malignaggi is more of a name and will be a bigger draw.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 28, 2009 7:16 AM EST up reply actions
I think we can all agree on at least 3 other fights that are much more interesting than Paulie M.
If you can willing to go up to 154, then why not fight Paul Williams?
Why not fight someone worthy like Timothy Bradley at 140?
I would even entertain Valero or Marquez III at 140 instead of Paulie M.
What about Carlos Quintana, Joshua Clottey, Zab Judah, or Luis Collazo at 147.
Or how about we just settle on random testing up until 96 hours before the fight???
Hustler for Death, No Heaven for a Gangster
If you can willing to go up to 154, then why not fight Paul Williams?
Well the 6 and a half inch height difference for a start.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 28, 2009 7:18 AM EST up reply actions
If he goes after Yuri Foreman, it’ll look just like he did when he went after David Diaz. Poaching for a belt – once you get to his status then you should only worry about legacy enriching fights. His 7 division belt grab probably won’t be replicated in our lifetimes, so he needs to just worry about FMJ (possible rematch if 1st one is a classic win or lose) and Mosley-Berto winner then call it a career. As much as I like Pacman, I sense a tactical pot shot snoozefest from Floyd enroute to a close UD.
I only said Paul Williams because if you have the gall to go up there, then go up there for real. Yuri Foreman is 5’11 if I’m not mistaken, but P-Will’s reach is insane. 5’6 is short at 140 let alone 154, he is going to have to deal with that disadvantage from here on out.
Hustler for Death, No Heaven for a Gangster
PBF doesn’t want to actually risk losing to Manny….he is doing what he’s done his entire career. guaranteeing the every assurance that he doen’st have to risk losing….which is fine to a point. Manny’s never tested positive. to sully his reputation indirectly by demanding extra tests….it shows you how shook Floyd is. The guy wouldn’t even take a chance to finish off Marquez who was CLEARLY outgunned. Floyd will never take a chance….he wants to keep his Zero in the loss column….more than he wants to make money/take a chance…..i knew back before that he would be the hugest obstacle to a fight with Manny….and his fear.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
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