Vitali Klitschko-Nikolai Valuev talks progressing
by Scott Christ on Dec 28, 2009 12:54 PM EST
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According to Lifesports.ru, a fight between WBC heavyweight titlist Vitali Klitschko and former WBA titlist Nikolai Valuev could happen in April or May.
This fight was rumored almost the moment after Klitschko defended his title in a hideous fight against Kevin Johnson on December 12. The Valuev side at first said there was nothing to it, but obviously there's plenty to it. With the WBC's absurd mandatory challenger Oleg Maskaev falling by the wayside with a first round TKO loss at the hands of unheralded Nagy Aguilera, it looks like the WBC might try to install either Ray Austin or Odlanier Solis as the next mandatory. That would give Vitali time to take another optional defense, and no matter how mind-bendingly awful a fight between Valuev and Vitali might sound to you or me, it's money in the bank in Germany, Russia, Ukraine, or wherever they hold it. Valuev may never have "gotten over" to any real degree in the United States, but he is a big, big star in Europe still.
The article says that Don King may be a roadblock for the fight, but I doubt it. He's worked with the Klitschkos before without much hitch in anybody's giddy-up, and this is the biggest money fight Valuev can possibly get as his semi-farcical career as a top heavyweight boxer starts winding down.
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I imagine HBO would stay far away from this one
No one in the US knew Kevin Johnson either (actually, Valuev might be marginally better known in the States somehow), but that fight was riding the Arreola rating and the “what if Johnson actually does something” American heavyweight upside.
This is bad news
I would rather Vitali took on nearly anyone than fought Valuev.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
You’re not even the least bit interested in seeing how Vitali deals with being the smaller man or how Valuev deals with someone actually hitting him? I don’t think Valuev deserves this at all and I’d rather see other options, but frankly a Klit versus the giant is a fascinating styles matchup to me.
Valuev is slow and not very good
his only beneficial factors are his chin and his height. He barely uses his height to his advantage at all, even when he tries too he is too slow to do it properly. His chin just means that I will have to endure him lumbering aorund the ring while getting tagged by vitali whever he feels like it for longer.
I can see your point but and if valuev was any good then this would be very interesting for the reaons you mention. However he is frankyl rubbish and I don’t want to see him at the top of the gam ever again.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 28, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Kindly ignore the typos there
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 28, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Consider it done... ;)
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
Wow!
This’ll secure your legacy Vitali, no question
"I'm not God - but I am something similar", Roberto Duran
by FCF on Dec 28, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah!! Let's ride that train!! lol
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
Hehe
You two are quite the double act this evening.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 28, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yes! Finally Vitali fights someone with good speed, movement, and determination.
Oh wait, I thought this was the Haye-Klit announcement! My bad. Sure, Valuev deserves a shot. He only just lost to a freaking CRUISERWEIGHT who he outweighed by 110 pounds…. and that’s after losing (forget the judges scores) to a 75 yr old ex-champ in Holyfield. FOR GOD’s SAKE….John L Sullivan is spinning in his grave. Along with Dempsey, Louis, Marciano etc.
In fairness to Vitali, both Haye and Chambers are unavailable, so in their absence one freakshow is just as good as another.
Honestly I don’t know who anyone thinks he’s going to fight. Ray Austin? Ruslan Chagaev?
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 28, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Boytsov or Povetkin?
Though they may both be too inexperienced….but they are the class besides the Kbros.
by Waldo Rastel on Dec 29, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
Boystov isn't exactly great at this point....
and Povetkin will get one of the K brothers soon enough via a mandatory coming due, and isn’t rushing it.
The only other name you could even throw out there is Solis…. but ….. as SC pointed out there really aren’t a whole lot of options….
Solis is the only HW who needs a fitness trainer more than cris arreola….
by Waldo Rastel on Dec 29, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
Don't MAKE me hit you with a Gabe Brown pic....
(Oh no he did not!!)
(Oh, yes he did!!)
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
Solis is the only HW Top-level HW who needs a fitness trainer more than cris arreola….
by Waldo Rastel on Dec 29, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Povetkin’s waiting on Wlad. Boytsov isn’t in any rush.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 29, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
And frankly, Haye’s had his opportunity to fight Vitali before and decided to go a different route. If I were Vitali or Wladimir, I’d not be all that excited about scheduling a fight with the guy after being left high and dry like they have been.
by VirtualBalboa on Dec 29, 2009 4:55 AM EST up reply actions
I think the fight will actually be entertaining. Seriously. Valuev will be there to hit and Vitali’s gonna hit him. That’s a far different standard than Gomez or Johnson. Better than Arreola too, he’s big enough to be able to hit back, unlike all the guys who get stuck poleaxed on Vitali’s jab. Mind you, he won’t win, but this is much more likely to be a 3 round thrashing with a big KO than a 12 round hug fest.
they should promote this fight as an alternative to Ambien
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