Does Paulie Malignaggi stand a chance against Manny Pacquiao?
With the (likely empty) talk of Paulie Malignaggi replacing Floyd Mayweather Jr. as Manny Pacquiao's March 13 opponent at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas combined with the fact that news is slow, I thought it might be worthwhile to talk about the Pacquiao-Malignaggi matchup.
I've dismissed it in brief this week, but that's mostly because it's not a viable replacement for Pacquiao-Mayweather. Nothing is. Nothing can come close to replacing a fight that could have broken records on PPV and at the gate in Nevada.
But does Malignaggi really have a prayer?
He thinks he does, of course. He said in an interview this week that he neither likes nor respects Pacquiao, and that he thinks he presents a style challenger that Manny will have serious problems with.
He does have a point. As good as Miguel Cotto, Ricky Hatton and Juan Manuel Marquez are, none of them fight like Malignaggi, or even can. Malignaggi is powerless, but he can fight going backwards, has a nice jab, and has speed that beats out all three of those guys, let alone the walking corpse of Oscar de la Hoya, mediocre David Diaz or a shot, money-grabbing Marco Antonio Barrera.
It's also easy to point out that Cotto and Hatton both demolished Malignaggi, Cotto beating him viciously and Hatton dominating to the point that Buddy McGirt threw in the towel in round 11, which led to Malignaggi and McGirt parting ways.
Paulie is always at one disadvantage, no matter who he's fighting. If he's not on his game, and he happens to fall behind on the scorecards, what does he do then? His pop is non-existent. His wobbling of Juan Diaz on December 12 was so unexpected it seemed to shock Malignaggi himself. So if Pacquiao got a lead on him, at what point does the fight become completely futile? He's not going to knock Pacquiao out with anything less than a sledgehammer.
It's really hard for me to figure a way that Malignaggi is a real danger in this fight. Yes, he could win some rounds against Manny. I would have had Cotto up 3-1 after four rounds against Manny, but Manny scored those knockdowns in rounds three and four that turned the tide of the fight drastically.
Basically, Malignaggi would have to fight at his highest-ever level, and by a lot. Juan Diaz is a good fighter, and Paulie looked his best ever in those fights. But Manny Pacquiao is not Juan Diaz. Ironically, Paulie criticizes Pacquiao's recent wins as being over flat-footed guys that do nothing but come forward, when he's gotten back on the map with two fights against Diaz, and his last fight before that was the Hatton loss.
Paulie can talk all day about Pacquiao's opposition not being up to snuff, but who has Malignaggi been fighting that is anywhere near Pacquiao's level, that can do half of what Manny does in the ring? Edner Cherry? Lovemore N'dou? If Paulie presents something new for Manny, that goes ten-fold vice versa. Paulie hasn't faced a quick, powerful southpaw who comes from those angles ever, let alone in recent fights.
I like Paulie as a boxer, and it's been great to see him turn his career around in 2009 after being counted out a year ago. He's a legit contender at 140 pounds again, his new trainer seems to have done wonders for his approach in the ring, and he's even gotten some of his trademark swagger back. But against Manny Pacquiao? I just can't see it being competitive.
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Don't know
It could be interesting maybe.
If you always thought what you thought, then you wouldn't think what you knew.
Let Paulie go in with bare knuckles
and Manny would still destroy him.
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
No kidding
Paulie would break his hand on the first punch
Does Paulie have a chance against Mayweather?
No one has talked about this which is very interesting in this saga of these negotiations:
Prior to discussing the “24/7” scenario, the camps were looking at alternative March fights. Both camps had reached out to former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi. Arum was also prepared to have Pacquiao challenge for a title in a record-extending eighth weight class against Yuri Foreman, a Top Rank junior middleweight who won a belt on the Pacquiao-Miguel Cotto undercard on Nov. 14.
“We’ll ask the MGM which fight they want [Pacquiao’s or Mayweather’s] and the MGM will then pick the fight and alienate one of the fighters forever,” Arum said. “We have another date [of March 20] that we can go on outside of the MGM and we will do that if we have to. If HBO takes sides, which they’re free to do, we have discussed alternatives.”
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
BNio. None whatsoever and this fight will never happen. It amkes no business sense whatsoever.
"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006
by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 29, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions
he has no chance
against either mayweather or the pacman. Paulie likes to talk, but he ain’t going to win.
Paulie is a dead man walking.
Why does anyone think BOTH camps were trying to line up Paulie? Because they wanted a hard fight before both of them met in the ring, or because both wanted to look good with a massive KO? Even Mayweather must be DREAMING of fighting Paulie, who cannot keep either Pac or May off him.
or because both wanted to look good with a massive KO?
Unlikely. Paulie has taken the best Cotto and Hatton had to offer and didn’t go down.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 29, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
That's actually part of the reason I don't think this is a good fight for Manny
If he doesn’t KO Paulie, people are going to wonder what’s up with Manny. That would lend credence to the steroid people who would say that Manny was off the juice this fight and couldn’t put away lowly Paulie Malignaggi.
Pacquiao has considerable more KO power than either of them. When is the last time you see either of them put someone out or drop someone really hard on one shot? They are both wear down guys. Cotto hasn’t never really shown much power big power upstairs at all to be frank. He broke everyone on his way up to the body, right up to the Mosley fight when he stopped focusing on the body for whatever reason.
Exactly.
Malignaggi doesn’t even stand a puncher’s chance in this one.
by Mr. Reynolds on Dec 29, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
In this one? Malignaggi doesn’t have a puncher’s chance in any fight.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 29, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cotto hasn’t never really shown much power big power upstairs at all to be frank.
Cotto broke Paulie’s entire face. I’m just saying Paulie can take a hell of a shot.
Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport
by Scott Christ on Dec 29, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
He can indeed
I think it would de a mid fight TKO for Pacquiao.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 29, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Without Paulie
going down that its.
"Honey i forgot to duck" - Jack Dempsey
by Drunken cutman on Dec 29, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I don't believe that
Paulie has much of a shot. Can never know, but—
Pacquiao ends careers
In his last three fights against Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Miguel Cotto (not to mention Barrera and Morales) Pacquiao has stepped in and aged them. After their fights with Pacman, they either retired or suddenly their careers were in decline. He doesn’t just beat you, he retires you. Only Juan Manuel Marquez has survived the onslaught.
Paulie Malignaggi, who couldn’t finish Juan Diaz and got beat badly by Cotto and Hatton, will get absolutely demolished by Manny Pacquiao. I would be shocked if it lasted four rounds.
Paulie's tougher than he looks.
He hung in there with Cotto and Hatton and I reckon he’d give Pac some trouble early on with his hand and foot speed – but Manny’s in a different league, he’d eventually overpower him and beat him up.
I met Paulie at Gleason’s a few years back, cool guy. We had a chat about him fighting Aussie based Tunisian Ben Rabah, who went on to fight Urango for the vacant title.
"Anytime you go thirty rounds with a guy, try to kill each other, and have the utmost respect for each other, no one understands that, but guys who have been to war understand it." - Micky Ward on Arturo Gatti.
don't get me wrong
I’m a huge Paulie fan. But he needs to stay at 140 or even below. His speed, jab, and defensive skills make him an elite fighter at that level. But Pacquiao? But it does remind me of that old question “how much money to take a punch from Mike Tyson.”
No chance for Paulie
In theory it’s a nice fight stylistically. Paulie’s got a lovely jab. And a big heart. But the ferocious Pacman would catch up with him, cut off the ring and drag him into his fight – forcing Paulie to trade. Then he would slash him up and stop him, because Paulie can’t trade with this guy.
It would be like watching the lion and the gazelle for 12 rounds; the gazelle knows it has to run and the lion must catch it or he starves. We know as we watch this play out that as soon as the lion catches his prey, there is only one result and it’s not pretty.
Credit to Paulie for his performances against Diaz, but I hope this fight doesn’t happen.
by maxirap on Dec 30, 2009 8:37 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
+1
Some people are acting like Pacquiao should be expected to have just gone, "Yeah sure, let’s do something I’ve never done before because your dad made some dumbass baseless comment."
(SC, 28/12/09; http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/27/1221143/mayweather-pacquiao-update-bob#comments)
Pualie
for anyone to think he has a chance against Manny, is absolutely ridiculous…
Pulie cannot even break an egg with his punches, more or less try to beat Manny, and please excuse me, no BS, and who is going to pay to watch this fight anyway? not even his neighborhood, is going to dish out $50….
Change of heart
I’ve just watched an interview which took place before the Cotto/Pacquiao fight. The Magic Man Malignaggi was making his humble prediction, which was a Cotto win. He admitted that it was probably because he’d felt Cotto’s punches and they were the hardest he had felt. But he said with sincereity that he respected both fighters very much, and that if Manny won, having alrerady beaten De La Hoya, Hatton, Morales et al, “he may be the best fighter ever”.
A couple of months later following the brutal disection of Cotto, Malignaggi’s opinion has radically changed:"Look at what Manny is doing. He is absolutely crushing world-class killers. And here he is, this little midget."
"He gets a broken eardrum and yet, he is walking around afterwards like he was dodging spitballs. There are things (drugs?) out there than can do that."
"You’re hiding under a rock if you can’t see what I am talking about. This is a guy who was life and death with Juan Manuel Marquez at 120 pounds and now, he’s got 15 to 17 pounds of muscle on him. Look at how short he is. He didn’t get taller, did he?"
Is he that jealous that he would gun down a great fighter the first chance he gets? Has Paulie been influenced by others close to him? Is he trying to create some animosity so Pacquiao fights him? Perhaps he is just outraged at the thought of such an icon being associated with performance enhancing drugs. Either way, a strange rant after showing so much respect and humility towards Pacman in the previous interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZiBa0L123k.

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