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Bad Left Hook Live Boxing Results and Commentary: Paul Williams v. Sergio Martinez

Tonight at 9:30pm ET, HBO is live with a two-fight show featuring the Paul Williams-Sergio Martinez middleweight main event, and heavyweights Cristobal Arreola and Brian Minto in the co-feature. Join us!

PAUL WILLIAMS   SERGIO MARTINEZ
Main Event
Record: 37-1 (27 KO)
Record: 44-1-2 (22 KO)
Age: 28
Age: 34
Hometown: Augusta, Georgia
Hometown: Madrid, Spain (Quilmes, Argentina)
Height: 6'1"
Height: 5'11"
Reach:
82" Reach: 76"
Ranks/Titles:

P4P: Ring #10, Bad Left Hook #4, BoxRec #9

Ring #1 (154), Bad Left Hook #2 (160), ESPN #1 (154), BoxRec #1 (154)

Ranks/Titles: Ring #4 (154), Bad Left Hook #1 (154), ESPN #3 (154), BoxRec #6 (154)
TV: HBO - 9:30pm ET Venue:
Boardwalk Hall - Atlantic City, NJ

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OT… Taken is such a kickass movie but the daughter and mom are beyond stupid.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

man on fire is another great kidnapping revenge movie …

by boxzilla on Dec 5, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked that one as well.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of quintana (well at least in the other pwill martinez thread) seems he won 2nite in ac after being dropped in a flash knockdown in the 2nd to come back and stop jesse feliciano in the third.

by boxzilla on Dec 5, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Man, I hope that fight gets on YouTube or something. Feliciano’s always a hoot.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He MUST stop fighting for his own good.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Also hope Witherspoon-Thompson gets up, since I want to see how Tony’s looking these days. He’s not exactly young. Wouldn’t surprise me if Witherspoon beats him even though I’d have Tony ranked ahead of him right now.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

Dude from queensbury rules said on twitter

Thompson KOs Witherspoon in 9 after hurting him with a big left, then connecting on some more solid shots after he got up. Ref stopped it.

by cardscott5 on Dec 5, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that does it for Witherspoon then.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i like tony glad to hear he got the w …

by boxzilla on Dec 5, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I think he’s a legit top 10 guy.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 5, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim Starks at Queensberry just said he’d slot him about #9 in the heavyweight division (better resume than Dimentrenko), with the skills to move higher. Unfortunately, he’s a complete non-entity, and too big a risk for anyone to fight.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I had him in the top 10 for a good while, but dropped him mostly for inactivity. He might slot back in tomorrow.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

About to crack open a Sam Adams Imperial Series Double Bock, settle in, and score the 2 fights. Good times.

I predict: Arreola KO4 and Williams TKO 11.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 9:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Nice call on Arreola

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 6, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Support boxing… drink Tecate… It has character.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

its character tastes like shit

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It is an acquired taste from what I hear..

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

never had it … dunno if its avail in canada. i just always assumed it tasted like corona. guess not.

by boxzilla on Dec 5, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m long past forcing enough rotgut down to acquire a taste for bad beer. I drank enough Old Style in my early 20s.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It taste like piss

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

about to go live

Apparently Juan Diaz is one of the new faces and his time is now.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Cristobal Arreola shadow boxing in slow motion: Not flattering.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Lampley is a Roman God… bow down to him.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

I can’t stand him.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Thompson gets another big fight. He easily could be a top 5 guy in the (admittedly weak) division.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

There’s a Shobox on 12/18

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice to have Adamek in that list… who was the last guy?

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

didn't see

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Dennis Boystov (probably misspelling). I’ve heard of him, but I forget what I heard about.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

never seen a fight from him

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

he's talented

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

no TUF results in the thread

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He starts camp at 270… and ended up at 263?

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

This feature on Arreola was shot to shit when he showed up at 263 pounds yesterday.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

and they point it out after

Good for them.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah… i like that they are ripping his ass apart

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

They had no choice

Him not seeming to take training seriously is disappointing because he has skills

by cardscott5 on Dec 5, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Lampley ripping him….

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Manny Steward: “There’s no excuse for that.”

They’re pretty well ripping Arreola.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

man

Lampley just subtly took a dump on the choice of Minto as opponent, too.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

He is better than Papa in that reguard

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s better than Papa in every regard. I don’t care for Bob Papa at all.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I am actually surprised that HBO signed off on this fight

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

they've put a lot of money into Arreola

And they probably hoped his comeback would be a good story. So far it’s just Arreola being chubbier than ever.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Arreola is their best non-PPV draw

He always gets good ratings.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 5, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome

“Takin’ Care of Business”

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Max: “225 would be about right for Chris Arreola. But this is who he is.”

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Classy!

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

woah… it is showtime… on HBO

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

this happens pretty frequently

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah… but he will always be a showtime guy for me

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

look

I’m not trying to be mean, but he has fucking titties.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

to be fair, Minto isn't far behind

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No big right hand by lampley?

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

but valuev sucks,,,

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

max should have said that

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Arreola-Minto R1

Arreola coming in with a double jab. Lampley tried to start being nicer and say he “expected 263 to look more jiggly than this.” He’s pretty damn jiggly. His back is moving.

Minto gets knocked back by a right hand. This isn’t going to last very long. Minto doesn’t have the firepower. Arreola mostly jabbing. He looks about as calm as he could possibly look. Right to the body by Arreola, right to the head clips Minto. Arreola pushing Minto around with his jab.

Arreola 10-9

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Arreola

Landed a few ok shots..Seems to be jabbing more than normal.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 9:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Minto’s corner just advised putting his head into Arreola’s chest. Is he going to motorboat him?

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

hard right hand

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

lol

what do you prefer him to say? lol

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

BIG RIGHT HAND!

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

there is an inside joke about that

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s just a running gag. HARD RIGHT HAND! BIG RIGHT HAND! AS IF TO SAY…

Lampley is fun.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Arreola-Minto R2

Minto looks like he wants to make this a brawl, but he’ll lose that, and I think he knows it too. Minto boxes like a football player. Nasty left hook counter by Arreola, Minto doesn’t budge. Minto comes forward with some offense, nothing really landing. HARD RIGHT HAND by Arreola. Minto with a nice right of his own, Arreola gets one in return. Minto is bleeding over his right eye. Arreola caught Minto there toward the end.

Solid round. Minto’s eye is swelling up pretty bad around the left eye.

Arreola 10-9
Arreola 20-18

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Arreola, 20-18

Minto actually made it close, landed some good shots, but Chris got it back late.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 9:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah not a bad round for Minto. What’s going to kill him is Arreola’s so much bigger. He doesn’t lack for courage.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

woah… he landed bigger shots because he is bigger… really?

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

just like tecate

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Arreola-Minto R3

Minto goes to the body, but eats a shot upstairs. This is just a couple guys thudding the crap out of each other. I can’t say as though I’m not enjoying it. These are a couple of tough cats.

Arreola jabbing plenty this round. Minto didn’t take that jab so well toward the end of the round. I think he might be about ready to tip over.

Arreola 10-9
Arreola 30-27

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

I have to see it is pretty packed for two guys who aren’t well known as the headliner

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Arreola, 30-27 A

Minto acquitting himself well, but not doing enough to win rounds.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 10:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

147

would love to see him go down there again to see if he really can make that weight

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think he can. It was amazing to begin with.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

woah shit… he backed up chris

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Big shot

he got all the man boobs behind that BIG RIGHT HAND

by cardscott5 on Dec 5, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

wowo

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Minto’s thought process appears to be “if I’m going to get beat, I might as well have the shit beaten out of me”

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

he needs to stop it

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Arreola-Minto R4

Minto with an uppercut, not much steam on it. Minto coming in now! That uppercut had a little steam! RIGHT HAND ARREOLA, DOWN GOES BRIAN MINTO!

That was a wicked right hand!

Minto up, he’ll fight on. This can’t go too much longer. Arreola charging with the big rights, MINTO WARRING! BRIAN MINTO RULES!

Whoa — this is wild. The crowd is responding big. Minto is dead tired. Minto firing away! Arreola coming with the rights, Minto just won’t stop! Minto hit again! AND AGAIN! AND AGAIN! MINTO WON’T GO DOWN! NOW HE GOES DOWN!

It’s gotta be over.

Holy shit this fight rules.

Chris Arreola TKO-3

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

er 4 obviously

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s always been fun, but I figured he’d get run over by Arreola. He did, but he took some horrendous shots and stayed in there and tried to fight and fight and fight. Minto rules.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I really don’t think Brian Minto lost this fight because of his size. He’s really not very good. And he wouldn’t be any major threat if there were two heavyweight divisions, either.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

wild round. chris got tagged a bunch too

@mikefareri on twitter.

by sonofapsycho on Dec 5, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

you know . . .

Areola needs some work still.

by mason_beer on Dec 5, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Fun round!

Arreola TKO. He’s a massively flawed fighter, but a blast to watch.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 10:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Oh fuck, they are talking about a “Super Heavyweight Division” again. My ass.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

I hear that

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

For God’s sakes, we have seen individuals’ overcome FAR bigger size disparities at max weight. That’s the fucking point of “max weight.” It’s sickening to hear them say these things.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He gets hit far too often to be an elite fighter… what did he learn from the Vitali fight? nothing

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

There are a lot of reasons he won’t be an elite fighter.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Lampley echos my thoughts

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

good thing the WBC didn't "sanction" this fight

Arreola would have just been suspended indefinitely.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

I hurt my hand on his head… wtf

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

People hate on Vitali . . .

but after watching this you really have to appreciate how good he is as a boxer. I know he’s foreign, there are no good heavyweights, etc etc. But he is a great boxer.

by mason_beer on Dec 5, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

This isn’t a place that hates on Vitali at all. He gets max respect.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yea..even me. i hate on wlad, not vitali.

@mikefareri on twitter.

by sonofapsycho on Dec 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve got more respect for Vit than Val.

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Dec 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

and I respect them both and want to see both of them lose

"Yes Gina, I am a Wise Cracker"

by lcollins1 on Dec 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Well when was the last time he was down in a fight

Great doesn’t do him justice

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He loves food… yeah we got that before the fight

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

bring tuaman back.

he ko’s chris imo

@mikefareri on twitter.

by sonofapsycho on Dec 5, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Now he’s apologizing for the weight, and also saying, “Who gives a shit?”

And he says you can’t measure his heart and his sparring! No, you can measure it. He’d probably weigh less. THEN HE MAKES HIS 14TH JOKE ABOUT HOW HE LIKES BURRITOS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh he’s a card!

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Lou DiBella: “That Minto is a man’s man, right there.”

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

I mean...

LAMPLEY has seen 220 lb fighters kayo 250 lb ones… He’s called those friggin’ fights. I guess this is just the HBO line these days. Pathetic.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

year in review feature

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

They should have started with a replay of their “New Faces” spot… Ortiz, Arreola…

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

wow… nice that they got dunne fight in and the linares fight in there

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Taylor mention

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

margarito cheater mention

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

It’s been almost a year and it’s still incredible to watch that crazy beating

by keyz on Dec 5, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Kellerman’s weird dramatic voice is just hilarious.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

YouTubed as a verb. Lovely.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

youtube reference for hattons KO

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

BULL

Without mentioning how the number of divisions has grown over the years, that was some bull Max was saying… “Maybe the one…”

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

He has done it in 4 real weight classes

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Comeback of the year my ass.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

APEX!!!

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Max is turning into Lampley.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Sort of.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

youtube as a verb,,, nice lampley

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

Jesus. Now no one ever has been more avoided than Paul Williams. Take a couple plays off, Max.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

EVER!!!

APEX!!!

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

All hype aside, Williams isn’t exactly on the “to-do” list of most managers. The reasons should be too obvious for these guys to talk about.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

no mention of the supersix or the supermiddleweight division… that would be expecting too much i guess

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

Martinez looks like the pretty boy… wally szberiack

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

he is like don flimengo in punch out

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

Too true

Just needs a rose in his mouth!

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 10:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he is also the golden boy… literally in that cintron fight

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

recapping the Martinez-Cintron disaster

That was one of the most goddamn horrible refereeing jobs ever.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, this fight was a damn fiasco.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Manny is going to talk about Hearns the entire fight. If Williams was right-handed and 23, Steward would be leaping tall buildings in a single bound to train him.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah. That’s a rookie-level mistake by Lampley even bringing up Hearns.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Eddie Cotton’s…changed.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

randy numan is a horriable ref

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

He did Miranda/Abraham I, yes?

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah and the gatti/gomez fight

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

Newman is ref’ing… He love L.A.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

burn on, big river

burn on

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

you've got a friend in me

sorry, toy story song is the only one I knew

by cardscott5 on Dec 5, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

it isn’t showtime?

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

He only says that on Showtime for obvious reasons

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I know… but it just sticks with him….. sounds odd to say main event

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if he’s ever screwed that up. It’d be embarrassing to do that on an HBO telecast.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Sergio is dead meat. Talk about lefty’s “finding out about themselves” fighting each other. Martinez is going to find the canvas.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

See

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Paul Williams is a bad, bad man.

I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Dec 5, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

woah

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

BIG RIGHT HAND

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

nice

pw has a good chin

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

he didn't argue

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy cow, wobbly!

I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Dec 5, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R1

Williams chasing Martinez around the ring right away. Martinez is a pretty decent sized guy for a 154-pounder and Williams just towers over him. Good right hook by Martinez as Williams comes in. Paul barely touches him and down goes Martinez!

Mostly balance, it appears.

HARD LEFT BY MARTINEZ STINGS WILLIAMS! Whoa — whoa, buddy. We might be getting a scrap here.

Oh my God Max just de-corrected Lampley who was trying to explain how stupid he was about that “9-9 round” bit at Cotto-Pacquiao.

Williams just misses a long left. That one lands. RIGHT HAND AND DOWN GOES PAUL WILLIAMS!

HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Round ends!

WHOA!

Martinez 10-9 — his knockdown was WAY more legit

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

10-10 round

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

9-9!!!!!

Fucking great round!!!

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 10:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

twn point must

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

TEN point must

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

TIMBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

by AsianSensation on Dec 5, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

That right hook from Martinez looks awesome so far.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

This could be a starmaking performance by Martinez (in the popular eye — he’s obviously already a top-flight boxer).

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

I planned on flipping back and forth between this and TUF, but my remote might as well be in the freezer, this is amazing stuff.

by clydeftones on Dec 5, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Well...

Kimbo – Alexander is garbage, so the choice is easy for now.

by KyleAskine on Dec 5, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R2

These guys aren’t warring, necessarily, but they’re both hitting accurately, and there’s Williams eating that right hook again! Martinez is all over him right now. Paul might have taken Sergio way too lightly.

BIG LEFT BY MARTINEZ! He’s starting to pick Paul apart with these counter shots when Paul comes in recklessly. Oh man, take my preview and flip it 180 degrees so far.

Martinez with some body work in the corner, then gets back, waits for Williams to punch past him, and picks at him. He’s taking Williams to school this round. Martinez getting a bit mean at the end of the round.

Martinez 10-9
Martinez 20-18

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Martinez, 20-18 Martinez

Are we watching a star being born?? WOW!!

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 10:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I dont know about a star, but perhaps a compelling rematch either way

by clydeftones on Dec 5, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

williams keeps tossing that left hook

and it puts him at risk each time…he needs to set it up rather than leading with it

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Martinez looks like a badass in there

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Man, Martinez really is shocking me. He looks like the teacher here, so far.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

He is kicking Williams’ ass.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams looks slow

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Martinez is looking like a southpaw who WAS BORN to take out southpaws. That counter right hook is eating Punisher up. Damn!

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

This is eye-opening stuff so far.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R3

Martinez’s counter-punching is incredible so far. Right hook again from Martinez. Another one just misses. Paul comes in with a long right hook, very looping. Right hook lands AGAIN! Williams sends Martinez back with a hook!

Martinez just goes right back to work.

Left by Martinez lands. Williams starts throwing his jab six at a time. Right hand again by Martinez. That thing is all over Paul. It’s target practice with that punch.

Martinez 10-9
Martinez 30-27

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Martinez, 30-27 Martinez

Damn, that right hand is KILLING Paul.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 10:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Martinez looks like the better fighter by far…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Crazy

When you think of what Paul did with other lefties. Martinez is putting on a hell of a show.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

a late change in opponent might have something to do with that.

by clydeftones on Dec 5, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks, Lederman, for reminding everyone there is no such thing as a “9-9” round.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

incredible flurry in the middle of the ring

by clydeftones on Dec 5, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

This fight is a ton of fun.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

amazing fight

paul “the myth” williams!

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

We aren’t going to do the whole “he lost to the best fighter in the division, he’s exposed” game after this, are we?

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

this FOTY worthy

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R4

Now here comes Paul with a right hook and a left! Paul is starting to get rough with him when they’re close. Don’t forget that Paul has shown an unlikely ability to fight well in close quarters.

Right hook from Martinez again catches Paul in the middle of wide punches of his own. BIG right hook by Martinez. Left hand Martinez! Left by Williams! This is a fun fight.

Right hook Williams! Right hook Martinez! My God this has opened up something fierce.

BIG ASS LEFT HAND PAUL WILLIAMS! Williams maybe getting more in a groove now. I think he’s thrown whatever gameplan they had out the window. HUGE LEFT WILLIAMS! Martinez was hurt there.

Williams 10-9
Martinez 39-37

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

damn

looked like pw had sergio hurt

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

this is getting awesome

Williams has a cut just over his left eye.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

You know what’s funny? The one time Manny SHOULD be talking about Hearns and Williams, he isn’t.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Based on what's happening...

nobody’s going to want to fight either of these guys after this fight.

by AsianSensation on Dec 5, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

That's fine, I'll watch this fight again.

I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Dec 5, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

holy moses i disliked both guys but this is just AWESOME

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

“But it’s not a bad thing to do…”

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R5

Headbutt didn’t open the cut, but it made it worse.

OH SHIT HERE COMES WILLIAMS! HE’S OPENING UP! They are FIGHTING! Two boxers are FIGHTING!

Williams’ workrate is flying now. He’s throwing from everywhere. Williams with a shot to the chest. Williams off the gas pedal a bit now, chasing Martinez, flicking his jab out there, trying to get close enough for a power shot. Martinez throwing the hook, and a left hurts Williams! THEY ARE TRADING LEATHER NOW, BOYS!

Oh my GOD this is a good fight.

Martinez’s left eye starting to swell a bit. MORE big power shots, Williams wins that battle! Martinez backs down. And they tumble to the mat in a bearhug.

Williams 10-9
Martinez 48-47

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Paul is as vulnerable to Sergio right hook as Wnky was to Paul’s right hook.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

didnt think this would be a good fight. glad i was wrong

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R6

Martinez gets Williams again coming in with a short right. Heads are banging together a fair amount. Williams pumping the jab, mostly to distract and set up everything else. Sharp jab from Martinez. And another.

Right hook Williams! Looks like Martinez’s gas tank is going to be tested the rest of the way. Right hook Williams again, then he ducks under a left from Martinez. Martinez missing in close. The tide has turned in this one, but it’s by no means a clinic or anything. Williams is just out-fighting him.

Williams with a left, and Martinez comes back with a better one. Now they’re trading again, and Martinez puts on a slipping show. Awesome stuff. Williams with some scoring blows.

Closer round.

Williams 10-9
57-57

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Williams, 57-57

Close round, but Williams landed bigger shots IMO.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 10:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

this has been a great fight

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

How the hell did Williams make 147 before?

I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Dec 5, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think anybody has figured that out

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R7

Williams’ jab is such a funny thing to watch. It almost has a hitch in its giddy-up, his arms are so long. Williams starting to dig in now. Martinez needs to maybe adjust as Williams has.

Slower round with both guys looking a bit tired. Good counter left by Williams. Uppercut by Martinez. Williams is making Martinez miss a ton of his shots now. This has been a tremendous adjustment by Williams, and he’s showing another wrinkle with that. He can adapt in-fight now.

Right hook by Martinez lands, but he’s landing that less and less, and Williams has taken control of this fight.

Williams 10-9
Williams 67-66

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

Sergio looks a little tired

at least, he is starting to get caught more

by cardscott5 on Dec 5, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

that should be #3

not sure whewre 1 came from

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

goofy comment formatting

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my goodness. This fight is leaving me breathless. I don’t even care who wins anymore. Williams could win, and I’ll be happy, but this fight is just epic.

Oh man. Martinez is a warrior. Williams is a solider. These are two gladiators just brutalizing each other.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

I am in Florida and have no hbo. Didn’t think I’d be missing anything great. Guess I was wrong.

Thanks for the rbr SC. I’m getting excited just from reading your excitement.

by BabyBull1289 on Dec 5, 2009 10:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Williams-Peterson R8

Martinez looks a bit more anxious to lead the action in the first minute of this round, which is stunting Williams’ activity some, but Paul’s defense — as Manny goes into — is looking way better.

Left to the body by Martinez. Left by Williams. Williams is bleeding. Right by Williams, and here comes Martinez with a lead left and a right hook. Paul misses a right hook and falls down.

Paul is more tired than he looks, it would appear.

Right hooks landing again for Sergio, with the lead left his corner requested leading them in. HUGE RIGHT HOOK MARTINEZ!

Good bounce-back round for Sergio.

Martinez 10-9
76-76

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

Peterson?

MARTINEZ, duhr. When I typed that I suppose I was thinking about George Peterson

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams-who?

It’s not even like he goes FWAH

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

his trainer is George Peterson

I usually type that part into the box during the corner segments

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Clearly, you are a failure as a blogger

Hand in your mouse and your cheeto bag, please.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m an avid Williams supporter. I’m a nut-hugger. And I do not care if he wins. This is a fight that will be replayed for years. I don’t think people realize that right now.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone else rooting for a draw right now?

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by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

no

Draws are shit

Bad Left Hook
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by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither man deserves a loss for this. That’s just my thinking.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the kind of fight your mother hopes that you’re never in.

Great line.

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by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

This.

Lampley is ON tonight.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Dec 5, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R9

Williams starting to throw long shots again as he did early, which was getting him picked apart by Martinez, but Sergio doesn’t seem to have the energy left to really drill him when he’s open. Martinez is oddly doing nothing. I mean his hands are generally at his side, but his arms look heavy now.

Right hook Williams. Martinez misses one. Uppercut by Williams just touches Martinez. Now they’re opening it up again with about 50 seconds left. Both throw right hooks, both just miss. Martinez lands that one.

Right hook Williams again in an exchange. Now pumping the jab, and this was a PW round.

Williams 10-9
Williams 86-85

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

10-9 Williams, 87-84 W

Awesome fight. Martinez wearing down?

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 11:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

They’re both very tired. Williams might be pushing through it a bit better.

Bad Left Hook
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by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I have it 86-85 Martinez

I think I might be the only one here

by cardscott5 on Dec 5, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

HBO is more fickle then a woman about size. Comparing their comments this night about size is murderously stupid.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

and you sound as if HBO had a date with you and stood you up

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

10-9 Martinez, 96-94 W

Pretty dominant round for Sergio.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 11:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R10

Hurrld and I have the exact same card. That’s rare.

BIG LEFT BY MARTINEZ! Paul is hanging on. BIG LEFT AGAIN BY MARTINEZ! Hey, stop talking to Harold. Call this fight.

Paul potshotting Martinez with little rights to the eye as they tie up. Left hand by Martinez, and then a right hook just misses upstairs. Williams this round is looking like Martinez last round. Body shot by Sergio, then a left hand lands again up top.

This is an outstanding fight.

Martinez back to countering and picking Williams apart. Big left Martinez. Martinez making Williams miss badly again. Great round for Martinez.

Martinez 10-9
95-95

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Paul almost looks out of it.

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by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

He’s hurting. He might have an injury somewhere.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

His eyes almost look glazed over. Almost as if he’s just not thinking anymore and just reacting.

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by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

one hell of a fight

could go either way right now

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

Man

Those left hand shots over the top make me think about right crosses over the top from legit middleweights.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions  

Martinez will win the fight

And then Williams will run at him like a ninja in their rematch and stop him in 34 seconds.

ME! BANE!

by SSreporters on Dec 5, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Man I wish that 15 round fights were brought back.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

WAR MARTINEZ

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R11

Paul pressing again. This is some hell of a fight. These guys are leaving MORE than everything in the ring. That’s not even possible.

Martinez backing Williams down a bit with his counter work, but then Paul just keeps firing on. This is a damn close round through the first half.

Big left by Martinez could turn the tide! Williams holding Martinez’s head down a bit, and Martinez just sort of slumped to the mat.

He’s spent. Oh man, this got even more interesting.

OH SHIT HERE THEY GO! SERGIO MARTINEZ IS PRESSING WITH ALL HE’S GOT AND BEATING UP ON PAUL WILLIAMS! WOW!

WOW!

What a round for Martinez. What a fight this has been.

Martinez 10-9
Martinez 105-104

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

10-9, Martinez, 105-104 Williams

Sergio gassed, but fighting hard. These 2 WILL fight again. Wow.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 11:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Holy mother, let’s see what they have in store for us in round 12.

standing ovation. And beyond earned.

Bad Left Hook
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by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

surprise fight of the year

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Martinez is trying to hold on for dear life.

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by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

sweet moses artinez made me a fan

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

FUCK YES i love this fight

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

I have it 114-114. This was an epic fight. Goodness.

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by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

We saw some MEN this evening.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

Williams-Martinez R12

BIG LEFT BY MARTINEZ! Paul mixing it up inside. He’s trying to get Martinez leaning, but not finding him just yet.

They’re both spent.

HUMONGOUS LEFT BY MARTINEZ ON THE BUTTON! Martinez is about to tip over he’s so tired. Martinez goes down on a slip. He is absolutely exhausted.

Right by Martinez. Half a round to go.

Can Paul put him away? He’s gone, Martinez is.

BIG LEFT WILLIAMS LANDS! What a FIGHT!

BIG LEFT MARTINEZ! Are you kidding me with this fight?

And they come right back to center ring again. Williams is near as gassed as Martinez. Martinez throwing what he has left! 10 seconds to go!

WHAT A FIGHT!

Martinez 10-9
Martinez 115-113

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

i had it martinez winnning

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

raise your drink, stand and clap, give it the thumbs up

Whatever, do something. This was an incredible fight.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

Best of the year. I’m sorry, but it was.

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by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It very well may have been.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I am saying this was the FOTY…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d have to go take a look through the FOTM polls, but this is at the highest #2. in this fight there were a few slow rounds in the middle whereas baby bull-JMM threw down for 9 straight rounds

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This was better… there is also the Abecko fight

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 6, 2009 3:37 AM EST up reply actions  

nah JMM-Baby Bull for life

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

this is going in my vault of classic bouts

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What?????

119-110???? FUCK THAT!!!!!

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Damn straight it was. Two guys who gave their all and were good sportsmen to boot.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

holy shit the myth’s eyeballs nearly rolled behind his head after that hellacious shot by martinez

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

the myth

I think perhaps it’s about time to give up that “ghost.”

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

FOY

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Dec 5, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

116-113 Williams, but you can see it so many ways. Great fight.

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

I can not believe what they just went through

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Dec 5, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

PW on home turf

should get the narrow decision

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Harold had it 115-113 for Williams

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Can Lampley stop saying American judges? In a fight like this, does it really matter?

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

I think it did in this instance… there is no way Martinez won only one round…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

outside of Gale Van Hoy cards

There’s not a bad winner here

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Eh… you had to mention that before they said the scores…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

WILLIAMS-MARTINEZ OFFICIAL DECISION

114-114
115-113
119-110

Paul Williams by majority decision

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

Well

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

and kick that 119-110 judge the fuck out of boxing

Period.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

When an entire fucking crowd gasps and both fighters look like it’s the stupidest thing they’ve ever heard, you’ve got a problem.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you hear the microphone drop? I swear Lampley threw it.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that might’ve been Max going to the ring

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope someone threw it down. That score was just .. wow.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

lol PW looks like he’s out of his mind and was glad he squeaked his way to a victory

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT THE FUCKITY FUCK!?!?!?! 119-110? WTF.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

Lovely.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

119-110? 119-110!?!?! Somebody lock that man up in a loony asylum

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

MAN FUCK THIS SPORT, THIS SPORT IS BULLSHIT. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, I DON’T EVEN LOVE THIS SPORT ANYMORE

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Easy, now

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

paulie malignaggi joke dawg

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was his Paulie

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

calma calma

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I say he’s blind.

Well no shit, Jim.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

This was a close fight. Let’s not go crazy.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

PW

I am not surprised…he was genrally backing Martinez up even tho he was also getting hit. I figured the decision would be his.

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

I’m fine with who won, but we just got a new worst scorecard of the year.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

Right

This is like Diaz-Malignaggi I. It was a horrible card, but not a horrible result.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

easily. shit like this tarnish great fights

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Dec 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That score is sickening

Just call me The Profit

by Manuwar on Dec 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

Oh my God. Paul doesn’t know where he is.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

yeah i posted earlier, pw looks like he’s needs a head exam quick

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Lord.

119-110 is just an embarasment. I had it 114-114, and I’m confident that was the right score.

REMATCH.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I can see 115-113 for either guy. But 119-110 is like just throwing darts at the board.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

PW

Number 3 P4P right? Where is Martinez in the list?

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

he’s not top 10 in my list, and sergio just cracked top 15 for me

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

nope im a hater

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

hate on then

I think you are wrong but that is great thing about P4P lists – everyone is entitled to their opinion

-Brian

by bp on Dec 5, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Way to ruin a FOTY candidate

Awesome fight but ruined by that BS score. Scorecards like that have a further effect of diminishing what went on in the fight. Disrespectful to the sport.

by cyke on Dec 5, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

It wasn’t ruined. It doesn’t change the fight you saw one bit.

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The fight was great. But the fact that there are questions afterward does take away from it.

By diminishing, I meant that someone looking at the scorecard about a year from now would have no idea of how close and well fought the fight was based on that score.

by cyke on Dec 5, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It was an epic fight

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

lemme say 1st that i missed the fight

But is this an outrage that paul won.. Or an outrage at a van hoy like card again? I’m a huge paul williams fan so I’m happy he won… I’m jus tryin to piece together what I’ve missed

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Dec 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Van Hoy card. But worse.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The latter. Lederman had it 115-113 Williams, I (for what it’s worth) had it 116-113 Williams, but there was no way it was 119-110

by schraubd on Dec 5, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

has there ever been a better fight where the opponent was basically a last ditch substitute?

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

FUCK THAT VAN HOY.

If I wake up tomorrow and see that the world has ended, then that means God has finally granted my prayers.

GO Armageddon!!!

by boxingmouse on Dec 5, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

I'm so psyched

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Dec 5, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

this is why i missed the fight tonight.

Huge Husker fan.

Boxing writer: "Iran, what are you going to do when you retire?"
Iran Barkley: "Rob your house"

by Matt Miller on Dec 5, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Make sure you catch a replay. Not one to miss.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

oh shit!

Hope everyone’s ready for Alabama 43, Cincinnati 6

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ll find a way.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

As a Bearcat fan, I hope not

As a Bengal fan, good luck tomorrow with the Lions

by cardscott5 on Dec 5, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t really care about the Lions. I watch, I eat a meal during the game, they lose, I shrug.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

UT fans are one of the reasons i loathe college ball. go nebraska!!!!

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. I hate that hoo ‘en horns crap as well. Noiw then, I had it 115-113 Williams in a fight that could have gone either way. Julie’s card was close to her dad’s and I had no argument with either one.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m pulling for the huskers, but they could still kick one.

by cyke on Dec 5, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

This is interesting

For whom was the 115-113 card?

"Penelosa is not human." -Max Kellerman on Gerry Penelosa during the Juan Manuel Lopes-Gerry Penelosa bout.

by Sickle on Dec 5, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

The card was from Pierre Benoist, for the record.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

What stinks to high heaven about this, is that in the las couple of years, I’ve seen Sergio lose a fight he should have ran away with, and now lose a MD with a card that would be thrown out by anyone with a shred of dignity. That card was criminal.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

this could be a classic trilogy folks. i believe that these two guys can never have a shit fight

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

I want to see these guys do it again as soon as possible.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

and as many times as possible

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that you JK?

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, this wasn’t a robbery. It was just an idiotic card.

Twitter: @FlyByKnite

by FlyByKnight on Dec 5, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

Just like Diaz-Malignaggi

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

BOY IT’S ALL ABOUT HBO ISN’T IT!!!

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

yeah its a brilliant strategy to preview and tell people to watch showtime. come on, give it up. you just saw a brilliant fight on HBO, and you’ll always continue to watch brilliant fights on HBO

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a hater, so it’s OK.

Bad Left Hook
"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I hate to live, and live to hate.

Lampley still calls the best BBB, though.

"This fight'll be the nastiest thing you'll ever see. I been sober for six weeks, and that makes me vicious."
-- Randall 'Tex' Cobb

by jrok on Dec 5, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t stand him.

"If you sit there and watch a person take about an hour to tie his shoestrings, then you realize that whatever problems you got ain't that significant"
---Vernon Forrest 2006

by The Midnight Rambler on Dec 5, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow…great, great fight! But 119-110! Insane! I can see it a point or two either way.

REMATCH!!!!

by FrankinDallas on Dec 5, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

baby bull-malignaggi I, and martinez-williams, two shockingly great fights

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

Props to Kellerman

For calling B.S on 119-110, Funeka, and Van Huy.

by The Boxer Rebellion on Dec 5, 2009 11:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

too bad one blind judge ruins another great fight.

by FrankinDallas on Dec 5, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

What a fight…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with Max wholeheartly on what he said to recap the night

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

god damnit UT won :(

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

That just ruined MY night.

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by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

UT is alright…

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

was williams and martinez

Talking rematch after the fight?

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Dec 5, 2009 11:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

both said: “oh hell yeah” basically

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to respect Williams… he could have said… I want the Pavlik fight( for more money) but was game enough to say he wants Martinez again.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

as much as i'm a "the myth" hater

he is a fighter. he fights for legacy first, money second

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean seriously… I wouldn’t hate on him if he didn’t want to fight Martinez again.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah they were… and to tell you the truth… HBO would love to show that again…

I expect the fight to get great ratings with Arreloa and this fight… and sadly the bad score card.

"Boxing is dirty," said Casamayor. " The day I’m not ready to be a dirty fighter is the day I don’t fight anymore because it will mean that I have no heart for it anymore."

by Zocalo on Dec 5, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

good

From everything you guys said the rematch will be a must watch. I’ve seen where people were sayin something didn’t look right with paul at the end of the fight. I hope he’s alright.

"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez

by thebitb on Dec 5, 2009 11:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

he was probs dead tired, but he did look woozy

The Dude Abides

by battle axe of doom on Dec 5, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

What the fuck!!!

A yo, the spider got punished ! The so called Punisher did not win !

by bomberjet on Dec 5, 2009 11:50 PM EST reply actions  

post-fight is up

http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/5/1187514/paul-williams-tops-sergio-martinez

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"If bulls**t was poetry, Ray 'Boom Boom' Mancini's name would be Shakespeare." -- Dennis Rappaport

by SC on Dec 5, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

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