Margarito's license revoked by California
As many expected, Antonio Margarito had his license revoked by the California State Athletic Commission for at least one year, which is nice talk for an indefinite suspension. Trainer Javier Capetillo's license has also been revoked.
The news comes as no shock to most, who saw little wiggle room for Margarito and Capetillo to defend themselves after the hand wraps controversy on January 24, prior to Margarito's one-sided loss to Shane Mosley.
The CSAC's decision stunned and infuriated Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who attended the hearing in Sacramento. Arum, Capetillo and Margarito all insisted the boxer had no knowledge of the illegal nature of the wraps.
"It's an absolute outrage," Arum told The Associated Press. "It's something that I never thought would happen in the United States, where somebody who is totally and completely innocent, has no knowledge what happened, and didn't do anything wrong, gets his license taken away because his trainer allegedly did something wrong. Everybody is blown away. It's absolutely crazy."
Arum's strong defense of Margarito is admirable, but like the athletes who say they didn't know what they were putting into their body after a failed drug test, it's tough to believe that Margarito or any fighter at this level is not aware of what's going on with the hand wraps.
This declaration of ignorance defense has gotten far too rampant in sports, and it insults the intelligence of the fans. Do you know why people are going to call Margarito a liar and a fraud from now on? Because unless this is some extremely rare case, he's lying.
Arum also says he'll be looking into booking Margarito to fight in Mexico. One of the things that I think is going to be an issue is whether or not I can "comfortably" watch Margarito fight from this point forward. I'd essentially be paying PPV money to watch a guy who tried to load up his gloves and injure another fighter. I think it'd be more than just me feeling that way, too.
I also sort of have an ethical problem with Arum booking a guy who tried to cheat in a country like Mexico, where regulations have a tendency to be loose. What stops him from doing it again? In Mexico, Margarito is not going to be held to the same standards. It's a simple fact, and is not generalizing at all. Mexico (and Japan) allow Oscar Larios to continue fighting despite a legitimate medical suspension in the United States.
One more thing: It sort of disgusts me that the Margarito defense that Arum is supporting was the gutless move to throw Capetillo under the bus. In order to save a money fighter's career, they tried to sacrifice the trainer and convince the CSAC and the public that Capetillo tried to wrap Margarito's hands with loaded gloves without Margarito's knowledge. I don't think anyone other than fierce Margarito apologists will buy this idea, and those participating in the attempt to save Margarito and destroy Capetillo should be rather ashamed, including Capetillo.
This decision brings Margarito's entire career into question, the same as any controversy does to any athlete, but this is absolutely different than steroids or other performance enhancing drugs. This is a direct attempt to alter something dangerous enough as it is, to change the outcome and reality of a fight.
Outside of appeals and possible criminal charges from the embarrassed CSAC, this is pretty much over and done with, and the outcome is the worst possible for Margarito and Capetillo. Margarito's entire career has this black cloud hanging over it now, and it'll never go away.
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Agree
I’ve been waiting for this post all day and I despite the fact of have been a Margarito’s fan totally agree.
by Mauriki on Feb 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One of the things that I think is going to be an issue is whether or not I can “comfortably” watch Margarito fight from this point forward.
Scott I know what you mean and I honestly get the feeling we won’t have to. Obviously the details are still trickling out, but it sounds like the California AG is serious about this and that charges will be filed. If they are felony assault charges, Tony won’t be able to leave the country. And if they stick, he won’t be able to leave the jail.
This has nothing to do with politics BUT it well known that boxing has a few very good friends in the government that will ensure that this isn’t just broomed away. The Govenator himself was at the fight, and McCain and Arnold are good friends. I highly doubt that the commision hearing was the end of this… or even the beginning really.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Feb 10, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
one other thing I'd like to mention
If the Attorney General really aggressively pursues further action, which is probable, they’re totally justified in doing so, but at the same time I can’t help but think that’s partially happening because the CSAC dropped the ball and embarrassed themselves by not noticing anything wrong before Naazim spoke up.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Feb 10, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“at the same time I can’t help but think that’s partially happening because the CSAC dropped the ball and embarrassed themselves by not noticing anything wrong before Naazim spoke up.”
Exactly. I believe this side of the story is even more important and controversial than what happens to Margarito. He deserves what he gets and probably worse. But even more critical is making the necessary systematic changes to ensure that this kind of thing is routinely enforced with the utmost rigor and never rears its head again in the boxing world, let alone at the elite level of the sport.
by Matt Miller on Feb 11, 2009 2:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will lose any respect for Arum if he tries to put Margarito in a PPV fight this year in Mexico….
The ruling means that Margartio’s proposed June rematch with Miguel Cotto, whom he knocked out last summer to win the title, is off unless the ruling is reversed.
“We’ll figure out a fight for him in Mexico,” Arum said. “It will be on one of our pay-per-view shows this summer. I think we’d have the opportunity to do 200,000 or 300,000 buys.”
by Zocalo on Feb 10, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the CSAC can revoke his agent's license in California
for having a suspended fighter fight out of the country? That might be a decent incentive to get Margarito to actually sit out the year.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Feb 11, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly had not thought about that….
by Zocalo on Feb 11, 2009 2:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually going to ask something similarly. Would the CSAC be able to suspend him longer if he decides to take fights out of the country? This is currently happening in MMA with a fighter (Bigfoot Silva) who failed a steroid test in CA. He was booked in Japan and the CSAC threatened him, his trainers and cornermen suspension (I think) if they were apart of it. He took the fight, but I’m not sure anything has happened yet.
by roheblius on Feb 12, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bob already covered for this possibility
by indignantly declaring that he wouldn’t hold any events in California.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Feb 12, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am so disappointed right now
And have been for quite sometime. I trully hope this does not cast a Giant Shadow on the sport. Not only that but with Arum aswell. I’d revoke his hall of fame status if he as much makes a fight happen outside the US.
Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Feb 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really agree with Kevin Iole when he said this…
Take steroids in baseball and you may hit more home runs. Use an illegal driver in golf and you mash the ball 25 yards further down the fairway. Finagle with a car’s engine in auto racing and you zip around the track a couple of miles per hour faster.
But cheat in boxing and you bring into play the very real possibility of seriously injuring, or killing, your opponent.
This is about more than the legitimacy of the all-time home run champion’s records. Load your gloves in boxing and there’s no explanation for it other than a cold-blooded attempt to maim an opponent.
by Zocalo on Feb 10, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah
He put it well but tt’s pretty much what everyone has been saying anyway. This makes the Senate baseball steroid hearings look like utter bullshit by comparison. But then again I guess since Boxing isn’t the “national pastime” nobody gives a hot damn.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Feb 10, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I got really tired of the whole Arod thing today....
It was refreshing to see someone put some context of what was done.
by Zocalo on Feb 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes you wonder though
Goosen had 4 million waiting for Margarito to face Paul Williams. Insted he opted to fight Mosley for 2. So he got his head knocked off for 2 million by Mosley and missed out on a 4 million dollar payday. Eventhough 2 million is a lot of money it still gives him a big F on his end.
Maybe, all of this could have been in the cleared if it was what was proposed as a great fight in all fight fans head… Williams -Margo II. But I am indeed glad it is all out in the clear.
Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Feb 10, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well you can live pretty well off in Mexico for 2 million dollars…
by Zocalo on Feb 10, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can almost say 'I'll never'
pay to watch Margarito again. Generally, It try to avoid those extreme statements, but this is something else. What else is something else is the public and media’s lack of reaction. In the day of ESPN 60 second sports blurbs, they give relentless coverage to………it’s pretty much been said at this point.
by lcollins1 on Feb 11, 2009 12:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll watch
but only to cheer against him. If he is going to get fights in Mexico my preference would be for Margarito to fight another top talent and get his ass kicked again…
-Brian
by bp on Feb 11, 2009 7:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Top talents at 147 aren’t going to go to Mexico to fight, let alone go to Mexico to fight a guy that tried to load his gloves and most likely actually did so in the past.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Feb 11, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And the payday probably won't be as expected.
Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Feb 11, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Margarito's Reach
Arum, Capetillo and Margarito all insisted the boxer had no knowledge of the illegal nature of the wraps.
My arm is only 36" long. I can see what’s going on with my hands. Unless Margarito’s reach is about 570", and his hands were being wrapped down the hall, I can’t imagine how he wouldn’t have known what was going on down there.
by slombardpdx on Feb 11, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or "feel" what's going on with them
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Feb 11, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
specially after over 40 professional fights
Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Feb 11, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The ignorance defense has to stop
You are absolutely right. The “I-didn’t-know” defense is bullshit. Plain and simple. If you read the article, the trainer also tries to play like he grabbed the wrong pad from the bag and made an innocent mistake. Riiiight. You accidentally grabbed the wrong pad TWICE. Unbelievable. Who knows how long they have been endangering the lives of all of their opponents. I hope the attorney general does go after them. They deserve it.
He can fight in Mexico all he wants. I will never pay money to watch that man fight again. Ever. I’m glad Mosley whooped his ass.
by erod on Feb 11, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
“I know it was you Margo. You broke my heart.”
Personally i wouldnt care if i was ever to see Margo fight again. I waited for the hearing and put my judgement on reserved but know that we know most of the facts, what he and capetillo did is beyond reprehensible and i cannot support margarito by watching him fight ever again.
This isnt like cheating in other sports because boxing is not a game. he could have harmed or killed one of his opponents and trying to give himself this advantage.
by 3zilla on Feb 11, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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