Cotto thinks Margarito should be banned everywhere, and may fight Mosley or Berto
Puerto Rican welterweight star Miguel Cotto lost his only fight last July when he was worn out by Antonio Margarito. Now that Margarito has had his license revoked by California, Cotto says that Margarito should simply not be allowed to fight anywhere:
"You know what? If it was up to me, we should all abide by the rules. He was suspended for a year. I don't think he should fight. It's not right for him to fight somewhere else. He should abide by the rules. If he can't fight in the United States, then he shouldn't fight at all."
Bob Arum, the promoter of both men who has had his big Margarito-Cotto rematch shut down with the license revocation, disagrees with Cotto:
"He has a right to make a living, and Mexico, in certain places, has indicated that they will provide him with a license. I'm his promoter and I will do what's best for him."
Arum is right. Margarito does have a right to make a living. Only I disagree that he currently has the right to make that living in a boxing ring. He committed one of the sport's ultimate sins. Arum and trainer Javier Capetillo both contend that Margarito is innocent, by insinuating Margarito is too stupid to know what's going on with his hand wraps. Capetillo even claims that he made a mistake with the wraps. Twice, I suppose. And a discolored mistake. With what looked like an "old blood stain" on it.
If you are going to buy this crock, you have to accept that Arum and Capetillo think you're an idiot.
Fact is, right now, the suspension almost certainly means Margarito is a liar and a bit of a fraud, and if he's done it once, there's almost no doubt he's actually gone through with it before. Maybe against Cotto, which is the most "suspicious" of his wins.
For Arum to continue to staunchly support the boxing career of Antonio Margarito is offensive. Margarito and Capetillo broke a serious rule. This wasn't a positive test for a goofy diet supplement that has been banned, or a blatant elbow when the fighting gets rough inside.
I also think he may be making a business mistake assuming people are going to ignore or easily forgive Margarito's transgression. But Bob's a far better businessman than I am, so we'll see about that.
As for what Cotto will do should he get by Michael Jennings on February 21 as we all expect he will emphatically do, titleholders Shane Mosley (WBA) and Andre Berto (WBC) are both in the running. Arum says Berto may be the better financial arrangement for Cotto, but I don't see it. No matter if it's a 50-50 split with Mosley or a better Cotto split against Berto, the guarantee for a Mosley fight -- which can be sold on PPV, while Berto probably can't -- has to be a lot better, doesn't it?
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La La Land.
He can do many things. If he fights in Mexico, which I most furiously disagree with, then fine let him find fights in Mexico or where ever outside of the United States. After all he does have to keep his ring rust away. However, like you specified he is under his own judgment obviously provokes this once again. And many more after that.
On the other hand if he does and indeed continue searching for fights which will not be as “bankable” what message is this going to send out to the organization that revoked his license. What will most definitely be on their minds when he [Margarito] comes back mid February of 2010 for his license. “Sorry, Mr. Tijuana Fraudnato, but you did not quite take your suspension seriously. So looks like we won’t be approving this.” Not to mention, that given the facts, [as not exposed to the public] it will be extremely hard for him to actually get his license to its proper state with his burden. It’s almost, but not literary, like a dead man walking with a hangman’s game.
Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Feb 12, 2009 9:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
As for what Cotto will do should he get by Michael Jennings on February 21 as we all expect he will emphatically do, titleholders Shane Mosley (WBA) and Andre Berto (WBC) are both in the running. Arum says Berto may be the better financial arrangement for Cotto, but I don’t see it. No matter if it’s a 50-50 split with Mosley or a better Cotto split against Berto, the guarantee for a Mosley fight — which can be sold on PPV, while Berto probably can’t — has to be a lot better, doesn’t it?
Given the brilliant performance of Mosley against Margarito, I doubt Goosen will go all out with such agreement but:
What if—- a fight is finalized between Mosley and Berto for mid April or late April… Unification.
The winner of that match should face Cotto [should he get by Jennings] in June…. Unification of all three belts.
Now that would be a PPV I will actually buy and the first in perhaps 3 to 4 years.
Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Feb 12, 2009 9:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Stop this
I am way past done with these bozos. Margarito and Capetillo – their stories make no sense, are totally laughable and can be sliced apart by a cold butter knife. Seriously, I don’t want to hear another word. I still want to hear every word “Che Gueverra” sunuvabitch had to say, because CSAC has a lot to answer for as far as I’m concerned. And now, I also want a closer look at the Nevada commision’s chain of events and cast of characters… I won’t get that, but I want it.
And now Arum is making absurd overtures about putting together some sort of Tijuana “donkey show.” Not only is this completely sick and twisted idea, but its tandemount to asking Miguel Cotto to sign his own death warrant so Arum can squeeze one last turd of a fight out of this crooked Margarito crew. Have any of you ever been to Tijuana? “Mad Max” does not even begin to describe that town’s legal system, and I imagine that if they could cram a sawed-off shotgun into one of Tony’s gloves, they would. And when Bob started that jive about “simply because he is Mexican” I almost punched my TV screen. Sick, sick stuff.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
by jrok on Feb 12, 2009 10:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Enough
I wish they would of punished MOSLEY when he took streroids like they did Vargas after the De La Hoya fight!! Cotto and Cintron got their asss handed to them and Mago didn’t cheat, he just took their punches and finished stong. Once the results come in March then talk all the shit you wan’t until then enough. If the it comes back as plaster then punish him worse but until then we just have to wait.
by ralph1123 on Feb 13, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously Cotto has a legitimate beef
He was bludgeoned by Margarito. That fight makes a lot more sense in retrospect.
"You aint my bitch, n***a. Buy your own damn fries." ---President Obama
by Pops Daniels on Feb 12, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I HATE accusations
But I don’t think anyone is thinking differently about that fight at this point.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Feb 12, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I made no accusations
although I should have been more careful with the wording. All that I’m saying is that Cotto must be wondering if the beating he took was legit. And, I agree that thought is obviously out there.
"You aint my bitch, n***a. Buy your own damn fries." ---President Obama
by Pops Daniels on Feb 13, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know you weren't making accusations
You’re thinking exactly what I am, as much as I wish I wasn’t.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Feb 13, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okey Doke
"You aint my bitch, n***a. Buy your own damn fries." ---President Obama
by Pops Daniels on Feb 13, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Look, there’s no proof at all that the “pads” were used in the cotto fight. The commission hasn’t even said what they are. Is it plaster? Cement? Dirt? Blood? Wet gauze? No one even knows, you’re basically just going off what Nazim said in the heat of the moment, and some other hearsay. They have not yet proven Margarito knowingly cheated (and may never intend to, they’ll just let him take the fall for what THEY may have been complicit in signing off on). The main reason everyone thinks Margo cheated against Miguel is because they couldn’t believe that Cotto could be beaten by TJT (which is kind of ridiculous, I predicted the exact outcome of the fight). One things for sure, the “plaster” didn’t even have time to “harden” twice against elite WW Cintron, and to discount Margo’s talent/power without full knowledge is not wise.
I’m not defending cheating, or saying Margarito did or didn’t do it or know, but unlike most I’m gonna wait at least until the whole story comes out.
It's not the size of the dog... It's whats in the fight of Bernard Hopkins! -BHOP
by blackpage on Feb 12, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the main reason is that Margarito had zero pop against Mosley and yet systematically broke Cotto down.
Listen, you can go back and read my stuff about that fight. I commented — in full awe of Margarito’s talents, mind you — that Margarito was a guy that looks like he doesn’t hit as hard as he does. That thought now sort of bothers me.
Also, Cotto’s face, the swelling and the cuts, just didn’t look “usual” at all.
I’m not saying Margarito did anything in that fight. We’ll never know unless someone admits something. But this is part of the black cloud that Margarito’s entire career is now subject to, and that fight will never not bother me now. I think I’ve been pretty fair and down the middle about most things here, and avoided wild accusations and stuff like that. I try to, in fact. But Cotto-Margarito will never be the same at this point, at least for me personally.
I actually admire your ability to not let your mind stray to these thoughts.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Feb 12, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arum is right. Margarito does have a right to make a living. Only I disagree that he currently has the right to make that living in a boxing ring.
I’d like to see him, say, a bouncer at the worst dive bar in the outer barrios of Ciudad de México. Either that or behind bars.
by Matt Miller on Feb 12, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i somewhat resent the statement that...
the cotto fight is his most “suspicious”. cotto was rocked early (2nd round i believe), so its not that hard to believe that cotto would eventually get rocked later on in the fight as well. still after all of this i can safely say that i will never root for margarito again.
by battle axe of doom on Feb 12, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Margarito only has himself to blame for all the linger doubts people have of him.
by Zocalo on Feb 12, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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