Steward thinks Margarito punishment is "too severe" for the fighter
by Scott Christ on Feb 12, 2009 2:30 PM EST
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Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward has joined the overwhelming minority of people in and around boxing that feel Antonio Margarito's "one-year" suspension by the CalifornIa State Athletic Commission was too much.
"Sometimes, I know the fighters really don't know what you're putting on their hands," he said.
Why don't they? What fighters don't know that cheatin' is afoot if cheatin' is, in fact, afoot? What fighter is having his wraps doctored against his will? And how stupid are we supposed to be to buy the idea that Javier Capetillo took it upon himself to load up Margarito's wraps and not inform the fighter or ask his opinion on a criminal offense?
Is Javier Capetillo some sort of criminal mastermind, while Margarito simply the village idiot, a pawn in Capetillo's wicked game?
Give me a break.
In other Manny Steward news, his best fighter, Wladimir Klitschko, is going to fight David Haye in June, it appears. This has been the rumor for a while (June 20 at London's O2 Arena), but it sounds like it's all but wrapped up.
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me too actually
I kind of expected he’d be totally opposite.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by Scott Christ on Feb 12, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I’m deeply disappointed in Steward, as well as in your closing pun in this post:
it sounds like it’s all but wrapped up.
Wrapped up like a stiffening glove insert, eh?
awww damn
Didn’t even think about it, but now sort of love it.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by Scott Christ on Feb 12, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Manny's
probably just trying to get with Margarito. Remember when Pavlik beat Taylor the second time? Manny just runs over and starts blowing Pav.
maybe Manny could improve his footwork
oops probably not
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by Scott Christ on Feb 12, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
hmm
Anyone within the organization… go and check Klitschko and go and check him now!
Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=18384
Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.
by CRAZEDANG1280 on Feb 12, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Good link....
To be fair, I’m sold on it, as long as Margarito comes out and looks the world in the eye, and says, “Look, I go into a bit of a trance when my wraps are being done, I’m focussed on what is ahead, and not worrying about what my trainer is doing. I didn’t know that he was wrapping myhands differently, and it never occurred to me to think about it.”
If Toni has the minerals to come out and say he did nothing wrong, fair enough. This hiding behind Arum and trying to change the subject, or at least the focus, in an interview, just makes me think the worst.
All that said, if the lab report comes back and there was nothing illegal on the wrap, the CSAC are going to look really stupid…..
I’m praying for baby powder. Or anything else that is not illegal. It does seem strange to me that he has been banned before the results even come back from the lab. They are taking a hell of a lot for granted, there. If they are wrong, his lawyers will have a field day with them.
Does the fact a boxer doesn't switch weight divisions during their career detract from their overall P4P ranking?
Cos I'd take Hagler over most heavies in history, P4P, and also over "6 weight world champion" Oscar De La Hoya, and Marvellous Marvin never really messed about with his weight, did he?
nope, I don't buy it
Even if he’s in a ‘trance’, they’re his hands and he knows what it’s supposed to feel like.
“Sometimes, I know the fighters really don’t know what you’re putting on their hands,” what does that mean? I’m guessing Manny isn’t a dirty wrapper, so then what is he even saying with that statement?
" It does seem strange to me that he has been banned before the results even come back from the lab."
Whether or not the substance is illegal, the wraps were clearly illegal and this punishment is based on that. If it turns out to be plaster, I’m sure the suspension will be much longer than a year. This isn’t a situation like Tito where the way his trainer wrapped his hands was legal in pretty much every jurisdiction except New York. The way Margo’s hands were wrapped is illegal everywhere.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
1 year might not be enough
I honestly think, if whatever he put on his hand was serious enough, he should be banned for life, this is like using a corked bat in baseball, when you cheat in boxing, people can die. At least the one year ban for Capetillo isn’t enough, but I also find it hard to believe that Margarito would be clueless as to what is being put on his hands.
Suspension?
I’m not sure why everyone is still referring to this as a “1-year Suspension.” It’s not. It’s much worse than that. They revoked his license. That doesn’t mean that he automatically gets it back when a year is up, it means that in a year he’ll be allowed to reapply. It’s like a parole board hearing… there’s no guarantee that he’ll get it back.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
one year is the most they can do on paper
But we all know if it’s plaster, it’s sure as hell going to take more than a year for him to be relicensed, even if he comes back and applies for it.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by Scott Christ on Feb 12, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and Manny
Please shut up. You are so all over the place with where you want to throw your “outrage” lately, I’m beginning to look for strings on the corners of your mouth.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
I think its unfair that even though the people in california can’t tell whether something is plaster or not in less then a month people are still willing to attack Margarito. The fighters that lost to Margo are the ones saying “he’s a disgrace”. Even though most traineras like Manny (Kermit CIntron) and Evangelista Cotto (Miguel obviously) have said his wraps were fine. I mean come on What Margo now is like hey i fought like 40 times won most of them but now im going to wrap my hands with plaster. It doesnt happen, not at this level. Something is up and it stinks to high heaven. Im not just saying that because im a fan of Antonio Margarito, im saying it because its true. Even if i didnt like the fighter i would say that something is not right!
If the wraps were illegal meaning as Richardson claims that they tapes to much on the skin then they should have had them rewrapped. Period. If Margarito Cheated then he really is a disgrace, and i will not support him, but not even the CSAC saw a problem, and he’s paid to inspect the process! EIther way like i said and agree with several of you here that the results are not even in, my verdict on the matter and hell the CSAC’s should wait until then!
I don’t think the CSAC would’ve come down this hard this fast unless they were certain something serious is wrong. We’ll see when the stuff gets back from the lab in March (and for God’s sake, in this CSI world it takes this long to test something to see if there’s plaster or anything on it?). But the CSAC should be completely embarrassed that they DIDN’T have a problem with the wraps, when at the most base level they were technically illegal, period. And I do think part of their quick acting has something to do with that.
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by Scott Christ on Feb 13, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
"Mid-March"
Well, even though the outcome of this whole thing is really important to boxing fans, I think we have to face the facts that this is probably a really low priority for California’s version of CSI. I can see the head lab technician being like “Look, I’m understaffed, I’ve got 400 axe-murders and 10,000 bullet holes to investigate… and you want you me to check out somebody’s old laundry? Get in line, buddy.” That said, I get the feeling that the AG is probably building a criminal case against Capetillo. It sounds like they have him dead to rights on criminal conspiracy right now, so I don’t think its crazy to think that they are probing for more.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
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