Bad Left Hook Fight Night Prediction Standings
by Scott Christ on Feb 17, 2009 10:41 AM EST
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Since there's pretty much no reason to not do this and be more interactive, I've decided to start running an ongoing fight prediction standings, mostly so everyone that stops by can see how dumb I am, and I'm a person who will readily admit to being wrong about a fight. Mostly because I don't care that I'm wrong about fights. I just like watching the fights.
Anyway, I counted everyone who put in specific stuff on the predictions thread last weekend, so if you want to get in here starting this weekend, that's what it'll take. Something like "Pavlik TKO-8" (KO and TKO are the same for the purposes of this game) or "Duddy by split decision" or whatever.
"Wins": All you have to do is get the winner right.
"Losses": You got the winner wrong.
"Knockouts": Knockouts are granted when you get a fight exactly right, like if you had picked Campbell by majority decision or Angulo to stop Rivera in the fifth. I'm going to count majority and split decisions as the same thing for this, too. No one picks "majority decision."
"Draws": Draws come when fights are declared draws, period. No one picks a draw. And personally I feel robbed since I picked Martinez by unanimous decision over Cintron.
| Name | W | L | D | KO |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| jrok | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| Matt Miller | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| JasonTryp | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| BabyBull1289 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| lcollins1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| SC | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| TXroyal | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| Zocalo | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
Knockout: BabyBull1289 correctly picked Angulo to stop Cosme Rivera in the fifth round. Had someone rightly stepped in in the fourth or after the fourth round, lcollins1 and jrok both would've had a KO instead. Bull even got the fight itself exactly right: "Just a tough spot for Cosme moving up to 154 on ultra short notice. I do think he will have a moment or two in the early going but Angulo will wear him down sooner than later." Couldn't have called it better.
Things That Should Have Been: Do any of us actually disagree that Martinez deserved a clear, wide and unanimous decision victory? Blame referee Frank Santore, sort of, for taking a point from Martinez in the 12th round, which would've given Martinez a UD win (116-110, 114-113, 114-113) instead of the majority draw that we wound up with. But then you can blame the judges for somehow seeing Cintron winning more than a few rounds at best. Martinez was warned for hitting behind the head before the point was taken, contrary to some volcanic eruptions about the point being taken.
People Who Picked Cintron and Lucked Out: JasonTryp, TXroyal, jrok and lcollins1.
Where We Lost: Many of us picked Funeka to take the titles from Campbell, and as hard as he fought, Nate clearly won the tough fight. No complaints. You could say, "Oh well, he was overweight," but they were the same weight on the unofficial HBO scales and Nate gassed anyway. Nate had no advantage in there. He just won. Only jrok, JasonTryp and Matt got the Campbell win.
Next Counted Card: The Pavlik and Cotto PPV this Saturday, followed by Marquez-Diaz and John-Juarez on February 28.
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Next time I will be more specific so I can be counted in.
y'know what
I’m gonna put you in because it’s not like I made this clear and you made your picks. They’re clear enough.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 17, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks Man
But I will be a little more specific next time.
Pavlik wins by KO in the 9th
Cotto wins by KO in the 6th
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 17, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions
There’ll be an “official” Pavlik and Cotto PPV thread up tomorrow at some point. That’ll give everyone a few days to get their picks in (I’m not going to do the Korobov fight, but the other three will be up) and a place for them to all be together.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 17, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
dammit
ok fine.
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 17, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
good idea
I have no skill at predicting fights but I’ll probably start making them now to be part of this contest.
-Brian
Am so in
Sadly missed the first one, looking forward to the fight night/commentary and seeing how I go – great idea SC
There’ll be an official thread tomorrow with the Duddy fight too. Please make sure to re-post your picks there so I remember to count them. I want as many people as want to play.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 17, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a good idea, Scott. Although I feel like docking myself a point for the Cintron fiasco, honestly. It’s blood money, since Martinez clearly got robbed. No way that fight was a draw. No way.
I think I’ll hold my predictions until the weigh-in for the Arum card. I’m still trying to get tape on Jennings and figure out who the heck he is (and how quickly he will get KO’ed)
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Great we can see who is the biggest idiot at the end of the year… thank goodness we didn’t start with the Hopkins fight…
I say that in jest because I think the majority of us had Pavlik,Oscar and Margarito winning…. We were kinda wrong in retrospect.
I thought Oscar was a stone cold lock
That’s the only fight I’ve ever been 100% sure about that I was wrong on.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
BLH, is there gonna be a prediction for Diaz vs. Marquez? I got Marquez 8th round TKO. Diaz is just a polished Boom Boom Bumtista. Marquez will snip him and drop him. when Diaz is in trouble he won’t know to hold on or box. He’ll just keep plodding foward into Marquez’s many angles and counter punches. Easy fight for Marquez, he will not get hurt, both will get a payday. Pc!
yeah
We’ll have a prediction thread up tomorrow for the Pavlik and Cotto show, and then one on the Wednesday before Marquez-Diaz for that show.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 17, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Draws
Scott, I just realized I don’t really get why you even include the “Draw” category. I could be misunderstanding, but it sounds like the way you have it now, everybody just gets a point if there is a Draw and no points if there isn’t a Draw. If that’s the case, it seems to me we should either toss it or give points out if someone actually calls it. To tell you the truth, I think you’re sort of right that guys rarely call a draw. But then again draws are actually pretty rare, and sometimes when you look at certain matchups, it just seems like its so evenly matched that you DO think it will be a close enough fight that it will result in a draw. Hey, I mean if Vegas lays odds on ’em, why not us?
Actually, this might sound like a crazy idea, but what if instead of including Draws as a separate category, what if we somehow lumped together draws, split-d’s and majority d’s into their own “To close to call” sort of category (“Controls” if we want to stick with boxinf-ease) and if you predict an SD, MD, or DRAW, if it turns out to be any of those three it counts for a point? In some ways that could be as precient as betting the round that someone get conked in. Just an idea.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
if someone wants to call a draw, they're totally free to
They’d get a loss if it wasn’t. SD and MD still equal a win.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, I still don't get it
Why do we all get a point if the fight ends as a draw (whether we called it or not). Just seems useless. For instance, we all got a point for Cintron and Martinez draw. Why? If someone called that fight a “draw” would they get a point for a win and another point just because the fight was a draw? But hey, maybe I’m just being difficult and a geek here. If that’s the case then never mind.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
it's not a point
It’s a wash, but a participated wash. If someone wants to call a draw they’re taking the mathematically least likely outcome, and if they nail that then it’s a W + KO. Draws aren’t “points,” really, just a representation that a pick was made.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 18, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
Nice Idea
Usualy i pop in to read the posts and some comments but this will get me into commenting and realy thinking and getting to know more about the fighters
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