Bad Left Hook Fight Night: Juan Manuel Marquez v. Juan Diaz
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 12:00 PM EST
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| JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ World Lightweight Champion (135) Ring Magazine No. 2 Pound-for-Pound |
JUAN DIAZ Ring Magazine No. 1 Contender IBO Titlist |
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| 49-4-1 | Record | 34-1 |
| 36 | KO | 17 |
| Mexico City, Mexico | Hometown | Houston, TX |
| 35 | Age | 25 |
| 5'7" | Height | 5'6" |
| 67" | Reach | 67" |
| Joel Casamayor (TKO-11) Rocky Juarez (UD-12) Marco Antonio Barrera (UD-12) |
Notable Wins | Michael Katsidis (UD-12) Julio Diaz (TKO-9) Acelino Freitas (RTD-8) |
| Manny Pacquiao (SD-12) Chris John (UD-12) Freddie Norwood (UD-12) |
Notable Losses | Nate Campbell (SD-12) |
| CHRIS JOHN Ring Magazine No. 1 Featherweight WBA Titlist |
ROCKY JUAREZ Ring Magazine No. 3 Junior Lightweight |
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| 42-0-1 | Record | 28-4 |
| 22 | KO | 20 |
| Jakarta, Indonesia | Hometown | Houston, TX |
| 29 | Age | 28 |
| 5'6 1/2" | Height | 5'5" |
| 69" | Reach | 69" |
| Hiroyuki Enoki (UD-12) Juan Manuel Marquez (UD-12) Oscar Leon (SD-12) |
Notable Wins | Jorge Barrios (TKO-11) Jose Hernandez (UD-12) Emmanuel Lucero (TKO-5) |
| Notable Losses | Juan Manuel Marquez (UD-12) Marco Antonio Barrera (SD-12, UD-12) Humberto Soto (UD-12) |
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Picks
I just put my picks for tonight’s fight in the picks thread that is off the front page by now. I hope its not too late.
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 28, 2009 12:23 PM EST reply actions
nope, you're fine
I’m closing that thread at 10.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
3 hours . . .
Anyone hear that John Ruiz was named #1 mandatory for the Valuev-Chagaev winner?
They also announced that the loser of Valuev-Chagaev immediately becomes mandatory for the winner of the winner’s bout with Ruiz . . . and so on and so forth .
If three guys battle 10 times in round robin format for a “heavyweight title” and no one sees it and no one cares, does it really happen?
“If three guys battle 10 times in round robin format for a "heavyweight title" and no one sees it and no one cares, does it really happen?”
I’m going with “no” on that one.
I've never really seen Nicky "fight" at all
A seven foot pawing jabber is a disgrace to the sport.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Damn
I wasn’t sure I would be, but it turns out I am really pumped for this fight. I like both of these dudes, and I have a feeling this will end up being some sort of classic. A far as “p4p” goes I think you could almost make as solid an argument for JMM as you could for Pacquaio. And I think the Baby Bull went from being completey overrated to completely underrated about as fast as any fighter I’ve ever seen. I have JMM in a fairly wide decision, but I’m praying for war!
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Agree. Unlikely that this one is going to disappoint.
by BabyBull1289 on Feb 28, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
no spoilers
It’s still on my massive list of things I have but haven’t yet watched. I like to watch everything. I watched College.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
lulz
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by Chris Nelson on Feb 28, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
So Steward is going to be here tonight but he couldn’t make it to NJ for Banks’ chance to become a world champion last night? Seems a little weak.
he's not Banks' trainer
I don’t blame him. He’s gotta earn that chedduh.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
He’s been trained by Javan Hill lately, Steward’s nephew.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
he's worked closely with him
But not his trainer. If he didn’t have this job I’m sure he’d have been there.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
this is gonna be awesome
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Kronk "family" fighter
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Jim, Max and Manny tonight
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
15,000+ tonight
And reportedly the largest live gate in Texas boxing history.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
uhhh
Yuriorkis Gamboa is not a 122-pound fighter, HBO.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
yeah I was just about to amend that
They had him up on the graphic with Vazquez, Marquez and Lopez and talked about him last while talking about 122-pounders moving up. It was almost ready to remind me of when Lampley continually insisted Edwin Valero was a featherweight.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Missed that, what were they saying about Gamboa?
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by Chris Nelson on Feb 28, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
John and Juarez in the ring
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
weights tonight
John: 133
Juarez: 135
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
This one should be a barnburner
not.
But I’m still excited to see John in the flesh.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
me too
That’s part of why I kinda busted balls about John for a while. I just wanna see him fight and that’s not happening in Asia.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, Peace to Matt if he's around
I heard he is convalescing in my hometown. Get better Miller.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
oh fuck me runnin'
It’s Laurence Cole.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Which means John will get at least two undeserved points taken
while Juarez low blows John all night
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I can't believe they let that guy ref still
It’s really amazing. What was the fight he told the guy that he was ahead on the cards and could say he couldn’t go on and would still win?
and it's on
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
John-Juarez R2
John sticking the jab, Juarez keeping his hands high and tight. John sticking and moving, Juarez looking for an opening and feeling Chris out. Rocky tries to go to the body a little. There he lands a right to the ribs, but John ties him up. Manny’s right that Rocky doesn’t look like he’s starting so slow this time around. John working behind the jab the whole round, and now Rocky’s loading up a few little shots and getting John to cover up. Rocky with a right. Juarez is getting inside nicely and not letting John use his distance so much. Still, the accuracy of John’s jab wins the round. But Rocky doesn’t yet look outclassed. Yet.
John 10-9
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
er, R1 obviously
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
John 10-9
But closer than I would have thought to start. We’ll see if Juarez can keep up that workrate – he almost never does.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
he's a cock
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
John-Juarez R2 (for real!)
Rocky shoots some punches to the body and misses a left hook upstairs. He is definitely starting better than his usual. I now worry he’ll wear himself out instead of picking up later. Rocky shooting some hard left hooks, one upstairs and one to the body. Rocky backs John down. He’s really doing well to get inside. I have to say I like what Rocky’s doing so far. He’s doing what he has to.
Rocky warned for going a little low and the crowd jeers. Don’t worry, Larry Boy will probably give you something to love soon enough. Juarez is really getting in there well. He’s being slightly outlanded by John but not enough to make a real difference I don’t think. There’s a right from John. Close, close round.
Juarez 10-9
19-19
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Juarez round
19-19. So far the fight is playing perfectly into Juarez’s gameplan. John needs to create a bit more separation, or do more on the inside.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Early call, but it sounds like Max will have his nose up Rocky’s ass all night, sort of like Farhood with Banks for most of the fight last night.
which is weird
Since last time out Max was breaking Rocky’s balls all night long.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah no doubt, it’s strange. Maybe trying to make up for being a dick.
by kp the ghost on Feb 28, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
ROCKY, YOU'RE AN *OLD* 28.
WHY DO YOU FIGHT? WHO CARES?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Lol, Max would probably give a hell of a best man speech.
by kp the ghost on Feb 28, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
So far, this is a much better fight than I thought it would be.
But, goddammit Laurence Cole, get out of the way.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
he's such a diva
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
John-Juarez R3
John with some combination punching, mostly blocked and so is that uppercut. This is quite tactical but not the stinker it really could have been. Juarez trying to go back to the body. John gets away from him. John fires a big right, mostly blocked. Both guys are doing well defensively with their gloves. John is throwing wild and really maybe getting a bit off track. He’s winning the round with a minute to go, though.
Nice uppercut sneaks through for John. He’s really outworking Juarez badly this round. For me this is the clearest round of the three. Rocky’s been cut off and John has been both more aggressive and more effective. There’s a great uppercut near the end of the round, but Juarez fires back on him and lands the final punch, a left hook to the chest.
John 10-9
John 29-28
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
HHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEY YOOOOOOU GUUUUUUUYS
JUAN DIAZ GOES TO COLLEGE.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
John round
29-28. They need to get off Juarez’s knob. John is blocking 90% of the hard shots Juarez is throwing.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Of course
If Marquez’s people think he won 7 rounds, still would have been a draw.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
boxers don't like details
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Chris John is freaking good.
That is all.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
John-Juarez R4
Harold: “[John] is a cutie if I ever sawr a cutie.” He means that in the nicest way, of course. Actually Harold is the guy in love with Chris. He needs one with this crew.
Juarez accidentally punches to the back of the head, Cole says nothing. John is shooting overhand rights for some reason. Maybe he just thinks Rocky is too slow. Rocky with a lazy 1-2; there was no starch on that. John is really headhunting big time now.
Nice right by Rocky, and there’s a left hook after. John resets and doesn’t go into a firefight. He can’t punch with Juarez; that I’m sure of. Rocky’s got heavy hands at 126. Rocky working hard to win the round late, and he just might be doing it. John lands a right, then backs off on a jab trade. Looks for the right twice more.
Juarez 10-9
38-38
But this feels like it’s going to go John’s way; I think he lost this round on a couple mistakes, nothing more.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Big round for John
39-37. Pretty dominant round. The one time Juarez landed a couple big punches, John came right back and landed 3 bigger ones.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I saw that round for John, too.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
4-1 John by my count.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
John-Juarez R5
Brick and Matt — wise men both — totally disagree with my Juarez round four. I thought Rocky landed better shots and they were fairly even in landed.
Nice right by Juarez, now John warned for holding the back of the head. Nice right down the pipe by John. Rocky’s cut, and John’s taking momentum. This is what I expected; I thought Rocky would hang in and then the cream would rise. I think the cream’s about to rise. Not a good cut, either. Above the left eye.
And John’s targeting it. Juarez gets him with a right, John throws a left after they hold. Rocky shoots the left hook, misses, and John uppercuts him. Good round for John.
John 10-9
John 48-47
This is a much better fight than most of us thought it would be. It ran the risk of sucking; it’s been pretty good.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
John round again
Every time Juarez looks like he might be taking momentum, John comes right back and takes it back. 49-46 John.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
yeah that's bad
That has to be a great cut man to mask that bad boy.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Nice of them to show us the close-up in HD.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Got a question,
does it hurt like hell when they press those q-tips in those cuts? Sure seems like it would, I’d probably start crying.
I just got back from your mom's basement.
yeah I have to think you're getting pretty numbed up
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I can't imagine it would be pleasant
But these guys get punched in the face all night. A Q-tip in the cut is the least of their problems.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
And getting cut gets the adrenaline pumping too.
by kp the ghost on Feb 28, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Laurence Cole is absurd
Break them if you want, but don’t get all over them.
he is consistently bad
Some guys have bad nights, but Cole is never good.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I've never noticed a ref grabbing
gloves and pushing hands as much as he has tonight.
I just got back from your mom's basement.
John-Juarez R6
Rocky’s gonna have to turn it up and start landing something big. Rocky with a small left hook as they wrestle each other on the ropes. John’s just starting to outbox and outclass Rocky. I love Juarez, great guy, but he’s just not in John’s league as a boxer. John with a big flurry, Rocky blocks some of it, but not enough of it. Juarez slips.
John working that right, moving all over, and just making Juarez look slow and tired. He’s probably NOT tired; he is slow in comparison, and very much so.
John 10-9
John 58-56
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Round 6 was almost a brawl there
Close round, I’m actually giving it to Juarez. He seemed to control 2/3 of the round and landed a lot of good shots to the body in close. 58-56 John.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Ronnie Shields is way better here than he was with Cintron. He’s telling Juarez that they CANNOT fight at distance.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Yep, good advice, just don’t know if Rocky can do it. John is just better.
by kp the ghost on Feb 28, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
He's not using the jab like he was early.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Clarification: Not that he really needs it at this point.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
John-Juarez R7
Right upstairs and a left hook to the body by Juarez. Rocky is trying hard to come back, but here comes John cutting off his momentum. John peppering him with about six shots. This is getting to be what it is on paper: wait, I’ll come back to that.
WHAT THE FUCK was Laurence Cole doing there grabbing at Rocky’s head? Who the hell does this guy think he is in there? News flash, Larry: No one paid to see YOU.
Now he slaps John on the back. This guy is absurd. Slaps him again.
John is dominating another round. Big uppercut glances Rocky. Juarez is trying with all he’s got and he’s not fighting a bad fight. He’s doing about as well as he can. But John is now kicking his ass. This is getting very wide. It is what it was on paper: World Class v. B-grade fighter. Juarez is good. He’s not good enough for this guy.
John 10-9
John 68-65
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Big round for John again
First minute was a bit more brawling, as soon as he picked up a bit of separation, he really started to locate his uppercut. He also landed a few nice short punches that seemed to do some real damage. John 68-65
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I really wish this guy would have come to the US earlier.
He’s a tremendously skilled boxer, and a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
he's rarely this fun to watch
Usually more tactical than this. He’s not BORING, but he’s rarely exciting. He’s just very good.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don't even want to imagine Luevano-John
Would be the first time a fighter dominates a fight only throwing a jab.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I'd like to see a lineal champ
That’s my biggest motivation. Jab jab jab jab jab
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, What a round. So much for that sour taste in my mouth from last fight. This is the real deal.
by Matt Miller on Feb 28, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, not to get ahead of ourselves but I"m trying to think who he should fight next. Dude can box, that’s for sure. Hope I don’t jinx him
by kp the ghost on Feb 28, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I would love to see John-Luevano. I think John beats him, but it’s the best 126-pound fight. Or I’d like to see him move up. Or someone from 122 come up to fight him.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Rafa Marquez? Intriguing story line.
by kp the ghost on Feb 28, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Oh holy shit
Laurence Cole, what the fuck was that?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
John-Juarez R8
Rocky lands a left hook, and it makes no difference. John fires four or five shots right back, and keeps working. Juarez tries to bull John; just does not work. Juarez lands the occasional left hook or decent right, and John is outlanding him about 2-to-1 at this point. Juarez is throwing with all he’s got late in the round, and the crowd is into it, and Max is trying to hype it up, but if you actually watch, John is also landing and landing and landing right back.
John 10-9
John 78-74
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
echoing sentiments
Cole is horrendous. How people tolerate this guy is beyond me.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
It seems like his goal.
is to convince us that he could take either fighter. You know, if he wanted to. Not that he does, or anything. But he could.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Another John round
But I could see that one going either way. John completely dominated for two minutes, then Juarez took over at the end, although John still landed some strong shots during what seemed to be a desperation flurry. John 78-74.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
John-Juarez R9
Houston tries to will Juarez into the lead. Who knows with the judges?
Rocky is definitely not going down without a fight. He’s trying to come in. John is just beating him up. Juarez with a nice right. Damn it all, he’s trying to make this a rugged dogfight. That’s a fighter. This guy’s a fighter. He has to know he can’t outbox John, and he’s stopped trying at all.
Juarez with another nice right hand. John is still landing, but the ol’ clean effective punching is now going to Juarez. He could’ve even won the last round, so this might be closer than we’re seeing it.
Juarez 10-9
John 87-84
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Another John round
John’s corner saying he MUST WIN the last three rounds. I guess better to be safe than sorry when on your opponent’s home turf.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Pat Burns didn’t even trust the judges in a John Duddy fight at MSG. They’re on target.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
"Unbiasedly"
Is that even a word, Kellerman?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
It is, but not a very good one.
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by Chris Nelson on Feb 28, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
what does he know
He left ESPN for FOX Sports. …and got a pile of money. Now he’s doing his dream job.
Max is a genius.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
it appears you get incentives for fucking with the fighters
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well lack of $ explains why we have to deal with dues like Cole
by kp the ghost on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Very few sports
allow a referee enough money to make a full-time living. Hell, Ed Hochuli has a day job.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Fuck off, Cole
Sussly.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
John-Juarez R10
Rocky throws a couple nice left hooks, John fires back with a right. This has become a good power punching battle the last few rounds. John with another nice right, uppercut misses. This has really been a hell of a good fight. I’ve quite enjoyed this, and it’s setting the stage wonderfully.
Four punch combo by John. Juarez beaten up again late in the round.
John 10-9
John 97-93
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
enough rounds have been close
That I’m genuinely terrified of the scoring.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Rocky's corner
“Rough this guy up.”
No shit.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
John-Juarez R11
Rocky with a right, then a left hook blocked that pushes John back. John moving around the ring, jabbing, looking to set up the straight right. John with a couple sneaky uppercuts inside to back Juarez down. It doesn’t appear as though John has gotten tired in any way — and he had a virus this week.
Juarez with a couple hooks, and now getting busy to the body. Left hook to the body stings John just as Manny says he can’t wear out John to the body anymore. Juarez with another left hook to the body. Right upstairs! Juarez rallying, and I’ll tell you he’s got big momentum right now. This is tense. BIG RIGHT! John may be hurt, he’s covering up and backing down! ROCKY NAILS HIM AGAIN, BELL SOUNDS!
Oh man. GREAT stuff by Juarez.
Juarez 10-9
John 106-103
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
oh man
We might have a 12th round to remember.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
here we go
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
What a fight!
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
John-Juarez R12
Rocky coming out fast and hard, and John trying to hold on, clutching him inside. John throwing back, now throwing first. This is drama, baby! This is boxing.
Rocky looking for big shots, John moving around the ring and making him work to find him. Rocky with a left hook, John comes back with a flurry. Rocky backing him down. BIG RIGHT! John holding on, hurt by a left! ROCKY FIRING AWAY! 1:30 to go!
BIG RIGHT Juarez! John comes back with three shots! WHAT A FIGHT!
Juarez stings him with a jab. Corners him, John gets out. John looking exhausted now. John with a 1-2, blocked. Juarez throwing. 45 seconds to go.
John holding on for dear life maybe. But he’s still making the fight go with lead shots, not waiting on Rocky. 20 seconds.
John holding on again. 10 seconds.
Juarez needs a big one. They’re throwing, and the bell sounds.
Wonderful fight. Hats off to both men. Great drama, great energy, and both guys had their best game.
Juarez 10-9
John 115-113
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Round Juarez.
I have it 116-112 for John, but your mileage may vary. I gave a lot of close rounds to John.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
judges
Raul Caiz Sr.
Tom Miller
Gale Van Hoy
Experienced crew.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
What a surprisingly entertaining fight
I got it a draw, but I let emotion get in the way.
Not sure how Lederman scored the 12th for John
But I do think he won the fight. A lot of close rounds though, so I wouldn’t complain too hard if it goes either way.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Bwaah?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
JOHN-JUAREZ OFFICIAL SCORES
114-114
114-114
114-114
DRAW
John retains WBA featherweight title
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I'm not going to dwell on the cards
Terrific fight. Both guys fought their balls off. I’d watch it again.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I'd be mad
But I saw something coming. I’d be pissed if Juarez got the win. Lotta close rounds that I feared would get out of hand and put Juarez up 116-112 or something.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
At least if Juarez won....
We’d have something to bitch about. I hate draws.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Everyone in the room with me assumed a blowout for John. the entire reporting of this fight has been a travesty. It’s actually bummed me out for the next fight, I have such a sour taste in my mouth right now.
I don't think he blew him out
I do feel he won.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
neither do i
I think there was only a round or 2 in it
hey Houston
A world class fighter came over and entertained you for 12 rounds and outworked your boy. I get it, but I’d love to see some appreciation.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Lamps says it was a draw because all three gave the last 2 to Juarez
I gave the last three to Juarez and still had him losing…
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I’m psyched for Pac-Hatton 24/7. I thought Oscar-Pac 24/7 was laaaaame. No Mayweathers? F off.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Roger's the best thing to happen in boxing
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like...
them judges in Houston are as corrupt as the Bush family
corrupt doesn't fit
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
No
It was a 6-6 fight. You really think this was a robbery???
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
6-6 was one reasonable score
On a range of reasonable scores between 8-4 John and 6-6. That all three scored it 6-6 was a bit odd.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
You said the same thing.
Just a different way, and a minute earlier.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Rocky clearly won 1, 2, 9, 11, 12...
If you can’t at least give Rocky a draw in any of the remaining rounds, you might be a Chris John fanatic.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
He did not clearly win the first round.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
I had John winning round 1
and John winning the other 7 rounds.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
It was probably a 115-113 fight
With a 1 round margin of error either direction. I erred towards John, you and the judges all erred towards Juarez. It wasn’t a robbery, just a very favorable decision for Rocky.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
I scored it a draw too
This was a draw. Lederman was nuts.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Looking over a few other boards
Your view appears to be very much in the minority.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
"with just one thing in common..."
What about the fact that their names are Juan?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
To be clear, I have definitely seen worse scoring then this, but I believe John was robbed. I thought Marquez won four rounds at the most.
I love the hyperbole
Marquez has not been at “the fringes of the sport” in a long, long time.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
“People say champions are the ones who bounce back from defeat. I never understood that until I lost.”
No wonder he hasn’t graduated yet.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
the prediction for tonight. is pain. !
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
It's ridiculous that TWO ABCs are sanctioning this for a vacant belt
One for the Super belt. While there’s already someone who holds the regular belt. Such BS.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
referee is Rafael Ramos
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
yes
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Is that better than Laurence Cole?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
yes
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
"The third man in the ring tonight....
Joe Cortez."
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Marquez nixed that idea
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
at least lawrence cole didn’t do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB1OR9gFq78&feature=channel_page
fighter instructions
We’re about ready to go.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Marquez-Diaz R1
Diaz with a left hook and he’s pressuring immediately. Nice left. Left hook lands. He’s starting very fast. Marquez seems like he’s testing what Diaz has. Left hook Diaz! Big body shots, and Diaz fires a right. Diaz is FIRING. We’re going to have a fight.
Marquez rips to the body. Diaz with a jab, and another. Marquez doubles the jab. Three-punch combo by Marquez, mostly picked off. Marquez in the corner, and Diaz unloads. Now he’s out. Diaz eats a stiff jab. Marquez cut off trying a left hook.
Right from Diaz, Marquez comes ripping back. Diaz boxes the ears, then eats stiff right. HERE THEY GO! HERE THEY GO! Huge left hook by Diaz! HERE THEY GO! NO MORE TO SAY. THIS IS GOING TO BE FUCKING AWESOME!
Diaz 10-9
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Wow.
What a round. I gave it to Diaz. YMMV.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Oh wow. This is going to be some kind of terrific.
On the undercard
Daniel Jacobs won by 1st round KO. Now 14-0 (13 Ko’s) at middleweight/super middleweight
Marquez-Diaz R2
Diaz backs him to the ropes again. Marquez seems reasonably comfortable countering with his back on the ropes. Diaz throwing again, body then upstairs. Marquez backs down, and now he’s stuck. Here they go again! FUCK YEAH! FUCK YEAH! This is what we came to see. Diaz is catching him, but Marquez is throwing hard purposeful shots back in counter. Diaz is going right down the middle. BIG LEFT HOOK ON MARQUEZ! Marquez might be hurt and he’s stuck on the ropes!
HARD right to the body by Marquez! Left hook to the body by Marquez. This is some kind of fight.
Two body shots by Diaz. Now he peppers upstairs. Stiff left hook by Diaz, Marquez nails him back with a right. Marquez with a flurry, ripping the body and going upstairs.
Man oh man.
Diaz 10-9
Diaz 20-18
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
2-0 Diaz.
This is fucking great.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
20-19 Diaz
Diaz took that round by hurting Marquez, but otherwise even. I had round 1 scored even.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I'm kind of new to boxing...
but based on the what i’ve heard about each fighter, I would assume the longer this fight goes the more Marquez will take over. Correct?
in theory, yes
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
true
I’m thinking more about rhythm.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
and this is a fight
that will make you fall in love with boxing.
I just got back from your mom's basement.
I watch big fights, but I've always wanted to really get into boxing..
I really enjoy watching Ricky Hatton.
hopefully
you don’t mean big fights = heavyweights, right?
Hatton is fun. The 120 lb to 190 lb guys have tons of great fights. Don’t listen to ESPN because they seem to think if heavyweight sucks, all boxing sucks.
I just got back from your mom's basement.
ESPN has been excellent lately
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Marquez-Diaz R3
Marquez with a good right, then Diaz starts warring back with fast shots to the body. Big left to the body. He’s fighting with his bread and butter. He’s here to win and win big. I’m loving it.
Marquez with a flurry, Diaz with a left hook. Diaz raking Marquez on the ropes with four shots. Marquez fires back. He’s not out of this, but he’s going to have to get a big rhythm. Diaz firing, Marquez may have stung him on a counter shot. HUGE right from Marquez, Diaz never saw it coming.
Right upstairs, right to the body by Marquez. Another great round.
Marquez 10-9 on the strength of some nasty shots
Diaz 29-28
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Another great round.
Marquez took it in the last 40 seconds. 29-28, Diaz.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
this
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Marquez-Diaz R4
Diaz with a WICKED left hook. He’s landing that so well so far. Marquez hit, and throwing like an angry crackhead again. I love you, Marquez. I love you again, Diaz. How foolish of me to doubt you.
Marquez throwing off the ropes, and now he’s stuck in the corner. And there he goes. They’re ignoring how hard he’s hitting Diaz to the body and occasionally upstairs to be in love with Diaz. JMM is right in this fight. He’s sneaky like that.
Nice right from Diaz, but HERE COMES MARQUEZ! Diaz firing back yet again with a flurry of his own. Now Marquez with three punches. These guys are at war. This would have to be the worst fight ever from this point on to miss FotY considerations already.
Just warring to the bell again. Awesome, awesome, awesome.
Diaz 10-9
Diaz 39-37
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
punch stats are really close
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
39-27, Diaz
I fucking love boxing.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Marquez-Diaz R5
Nice combo from Marquez catches Diaz flat-footed. And there’s a super combo from Diaz with Marquez trapped again. And Marquez right back with a 3-punch combination. And Diaz right back with four. Left hook Diaz. My God.
Marquez drilling away to the body, Diaz firing, MARQUEZ NAILS HIM, DIAZ NAILS HIM RIGHT BACK! This is brutal. This is two world-class fighters firing on all cylinders. This is moving toward a class of Barrera-Morales or Vazquez-Marquez or Juan’s fights with Pacquiao. Just everything coming together in a perfect storm.
They’re firing away again! Marquez backed down! Boy, Juan Diaz came to become a superstar. He’s rocking it. This might be the best he’s ever fought. Marquez is cut.
Diaz 10-9
Diaz 49-46
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Dare I say.....
Early FOY candidate? This is great.
Another round for Diaz, 49-46.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Nacho tells Marquez they're winning close
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Marquez-Diaz R6
Diaz going back to work on the ropes, and Marquez backs him down this time. Marquez getting bulled around. Diaz going back to the body. Diaz with a stiff jab. This has slowed down some this round, which is relative to the fact that the first five were pretty unreal in pace.
Great shots from Marquez now. He’s right there with Diaz; this is closer than my score. They both throw rights to the body at the exact same time. How often do you see that? THREE uppercuts from Marquez, speaking of things you never see. AND NOW THEY GO TO WAR AGAIN! Woof. Marquez starting to land good, clean, hard shots more frequently. Juan is getting a small lesson this round. Another fiery ending to the round.
Marquez 10-9
Diaz 58-56
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I think Marquez eked that one out.
58-56, Diaz. But I think Marquez is going down in the next 2 rounds.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
The “Really?” was not in reference to the score, as I thought JMM took it easy. I just don’t think anyone’s knocking anyone our here, especially not soon.
down, not out.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Marquez-Diaz R7
Marquez wins a firefight in the corner. He’s either baiting Diaz or fighting less than brilliantly, or he just can’t help it because Diaz is that much stronger than him and he respects it. All are quite possible.
Lamps relays the stat: Diaz has already thrown more power punches against JMM than anyone ever has in a 12-round fight. And we’re through six.
Marquez with a great combo at center ring, and he’s landing again right after. Now to the ropes, Diaz fires a left hook. Diaz with another one and some body shots while on the ropes. Marquez moves it back to the middle. Lampley notes that Marquez’s mouth is open. He might be wearing out.
Marquez with a great combo again. What a fight this is. What a card this has been. HARD straight right from Marquez, Diaz drives him back with a left hook! Diaz throwing, Marquez trying to counter! Bell rings.
Marquez 10-9
Diaz 67-66
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Close round. Very close round.
I give it to Marquez. 67-66, Diaz. This is fucking great.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Marquez-Diaz R8
Diaz cut early in the round on a left uppercut. VICIOUS right from Marquez! Marquez going to WORK on Diaz in the first minute of this round. He’s beating on him. Now Diaz comes back with a lot of energy, tons of punches! Marquez turns him around on the ropes! Back to center ring. My goodness.
Marquez with a right uppercut now. The Marquez fans are starting to get loud, too. Great energy in the fight and thus in the crowd. And Marquez ripping away! That’s a pretty bloody cut on Diaz’s right eye. He uh…boy he does not look like he’s responding well to this cut, either.
Marquez staggers him! Marquez unloading at mid-ring! Diaz with a left! That was perfect timing to back JMM down. JMM is amping it up and taking over. Bell sounds.
His cut man better be someone new. That cut is bad and his expression is totally different.
Marquez 10-9
76-76
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Now we find out what kind of balls he has. This is make-or-break testing of his fortitude.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Round Marquez.
Holy shit. This is the best fight since Vazquez-Marquez.
76-76.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
it has to finish to beat out JMM-Pac II
Which was shortly after Vazquez-Marquez III.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Feb 28, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Marquez-Diaz R9
Marquez is firing off again to start this round. Diaz’s activity has dropped some. They’re bulling at mid-ring, Diaz trying to exert his will. Left hook Diaz! And he fires, JMM ducks and mixes him up. Diaz working him on the ropes now, and Marquez gets out and isn’t taking the sort of punishment that he was earlier in the same situations.
Uppercut Marquez. Vicious combo Marquez DIAZ IS DOWN ON AN UPPERCUT! Diaz is up and will fight on.
35 seconds to go in the round.
Hard body shot Marquez. Diaz is down and it is OVER!
Juan Manuel Marquez TKO-9
This motherfucker is a master of the craft. And you know what? Diaz crumbled after a cut once again.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Play nice
Diaz crumbled after Marquez kicked it into another gear
I'm calling it like I see it
In both losses he fell apart immediately after being cut. Marquez is a great fighter and put him away. Campbell is a very good fighter and wore him out.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
WOW
what a fight. And what a performance by JMM
Houston crowd gives a massive, standing ovation
Both men deserve it.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
Juan Manuel Marquez is now...
The lineal champion and the WBA/WBO/IBO titleholder.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
i honestly think you can make a very good case for him as #1 P4P
by boxingstudent on Mar 1, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
you can
Especially if you think he beat Pac last time out, which I do.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
WAR!
Thank you boys.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
amen
It might seem like I’m dissing Diaz, but I’m not. He’s a hell of a fighter and he warred through this whole fight. He left it all in the ring.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Does B-Hop get to come to the ring regardless of who just fought?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
he's a promoter
And both dudes are Golden Boy. He’s at work. So is Shane.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I had it by...
Marquez winning by 10th round KO. I wasn’t too far off now was I? Yes baby!
whoa
Marquez calls out Mayweather.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
who do ya got sc … u think the fights even possible?!!? or is this just posturing so jmm can make the comment that thats the real p4p. hypothetically if jmm beat pbf even an inactive one he’d be my p4p. but i dont think the fight will happen or jmm will beat him…
Floyd probably beats him considering Floyd isn't going to fight below 147
It’s not possible, either. A Marquez fight isn’t getting Floyd his $20 mil guarantee if Golden Boy said no to that for Mosley, which Arum says they did, and Arum says he would if Floyd asks for that for Pacquiao.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
great ovation for Diaz
He deserves it. Beat by a better fighter. He even blames the cut, says he couldn’t see the punches. It was there and he’s being honest.
Max is being a prick. “Did you not learn anything from the Campbell fight?” You know, I might share the sentiment, but what a dick move.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
So Hatton v. Paquiao..
Whats the general consensus on who will win, and will Marquez get the winner?
Pacquiao's the favorite
But Hatton has a great, great chance. Pacquiao is twice the fighter Hatton is in pure skill, but Ricky’s a really strong, physical 140-pounder.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
This fight reminded me of Hatton/Mayweather...
Fast start by the underdog, quick and strong, looking good. Round 6 hits, and the favorite’s experience and counter-punching take over as the underdog loses steam.
Pacquiao
will destroy Hatton by the 5th round
Hatton’s got a lot more in him than Oscar did.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
it's the early candidate
There will be more. We also always get something totally from left field (Codrington-Bika, Villa-Mtagwa, Sithchatchawal-Monshipour).
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
gotta see cards
March 7: Kirkland v. Julio, KO guaranteed (HBO)
April 4: Lightweight Lightning PPV from Golden Boy, should be at least two really good fights
May 2: Hatton v. Pacquiao
There are a lot of good shows though. There’s a full schedule with networks listed here, plus full coverage of all the fights dating back to September right now.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
winky makes a return, is it apr 7th agst tall paul williams? looking forward to that! andre ward 2009!
I'm not encouraging a hopeful boxing fanatic to dive into Winky Wright
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
I would have gladly paid for this card
Of course, I’ m not a genious like Bob Arum or Gary Shaw.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
Kudos to GBP and HBO for such a great fight card…. really treated the fans to an excellent show. The fighters all contributed… John,Juarez,Diaz, and Marquez. This is what boxing is suppose to be.
jmm is my p4p #1 anyone else?
i know the pac fight was close but i think he won it so i think i can make the decision and until the outcome of hatton/pacman no doubt in my mind that jmm is the #1 p4p fighter in the world as of 2nite.
2 hasty? opinions?
I keep Pac #1
But the gap is way closer than most casual fans realize. They hear “#1 pound for pound fighter Manny Pacquiao” all the time. They hear little still about Marquez.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 1, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
welp
while i respect the SHIT out of JMM as a pacquiao fan i see him as a bitter rival and i can’t help but to feel some angry after this fight. but GOD DAMN that was amazingggggggggggggggggggg
btw even with a loss baby bull has not lost my fanship. amazing effort that guy put in, and while i’m sure its not gonna happen i would love to see a rematch
The Dude Abides
by battle axe of doom on Mar 1, 2009 12:34 AM EST reply actions
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