John v Juarez scoring (w/poll)
by Brickhaus on Feb 28, 2009 11:17 PM EST
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PrintHow did you score Chris John v Rocky Juarez?
Each of the judges had it a 114 - 114 draw. Just want to get a gauge here.
I wouldn't have to write this filler if I could post a poll in a fanshot, but alas I must. Oh yes I must. Wow this is a royal pain in the rear end. I don't want to bias the poll by giving my thoughts here.
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I voted once.
I had it 116-112 for John. I think any card from 114-114 to 116-112 John is defensible. 3 cards on the low end seems a bit fishy.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
I feel dirty saying it since I have ragged on John alot, but he won clearly in my eyes. I am just going to hate on him for not coming to the states earlier on. He is clearly world class but as settled for fighting mandatories in Asia.
to be fair
He’s also settled for more money to do that. He’s a rock star in Indonesia. Over here he’s Steven Luevano, the Asian version.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
And it's not like he's Zsolt Erdei either
He’s faced a number of legitimate challengers, 5 former titlists, 4 guys who were ranked top 10 at the time he fought them, and one guy who is P4P.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Draw
114-114 is NOT a crazy score or a home-cooked robbery. I predicted a Chris John UD, but I scored the fight even, and I wouldn’t at all be surprised if two of the three judges cards looked identical to mine. I think its fine to disagree about the scoring, particularly with so many close rounds. But to say that John was dominant in this fight and got cheated out of a win… well that just doesn’t wash with me. He wasn’t dominant and his punches looked less and less effective as the bout wore on, perhaps because Rocky was finding the body more and more.
"I want to see ocean. I want to see black people. I want to see palms." - Wladimir Klitschko
He wasn’t dominant
Well he look didn’t great if you compare how Barrera and Marquez fights vs Juarez when they routed him in previous fights. I had some time to think about it and isnt a great perfromance if you compare him to his what his peers have done vs Juarez.
they did it at 130
Rocky’s a better fighter at 126.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I don't think he was dominant
I do think he won the fight, though.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
overall I wasn’t that impressed with John. Again, I didn’t see the first 6 rounds, but he doesn’t appear to be a huge puncher, he isn’t amazingly fast and doesn’t have great D or movement. He seems to be a good, high output fighter. He may have won, but narrowly beating Rocky Juarez, even the best rocky Juarez I’ve ever seen, isn’t a great accomplishment.
The second half of the fight
He fought nothing like what I’m used to seeing from him. Usually he’s more of a counterpuncher / defense first fighter with an accurate jab and the occasional combo, but it sounded like his corner was pushing him to be more aggressive. What he did rounds 1 – 6 was pretty standard Chris John.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Illness?
Having watched the fight i thought John looked great 1-6 and then faded badly! Fair play to Jaurez, but i wonder if the illness that was reported before the weigh in had anything to do with how he faded? All he had to do to win that fight conviningly was to keep moving!
maybe
But Juarez also turned it up big and John might have gone a little faster paced than necessary early on. Rocky definitely hurt him in the later rounds, but he’s a legit puncher at 126 too.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I had it as a draw
Great fight, I really couldn’t take the win away from either fighter. I really hope they do it again. I’ve really enjoyed most of the televised cards this year, and John/Juarez II would make a great addition in a few months.
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