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Jorge Arce contemplating retirement?

Capt Jorge Arce, one of boxing's most colorful and entertaining characters, sounds like he may be contemplating retiring from boxing.

While Arce said that he wished he had gone all 12 rounds last night in his loss to Vic Darchinyan and that he feels good aside from the usual bumps and bruises, he is now heading to Miami to embark on a cruise with his family, where he'll stop in Puerto Rico and look to meet up with "good friends" Miguel Cotto and Ivan Calderon.

He does say he'll come back and fight, but added "at least one more time."

Arce, 29, does look like he's pretty quickly declining after years of vicious battles and a good amount of hard beatings, often even in victory. He seemed wobbly-legged in his outstanding fight against and win over Rafael Concepcion last September, and had little to offer offensively that would deter Darchinyan, only occasionally trying to mix it up with the powerful Armenian, and looking fearful of the titleholder's power at times, which has never been something Arce did in the past.

Many warrior boxers have hit the wall around Arce's age. It would be no surprise if last night was his final big-time fight. No matter what happens from this point on, and no matter how you personally feel about Arce and his goofy antics, he's a fighter to be remembered and respected.

The Anaheim Undercard

On the untelevised portion of the card last night, four fighters stayed unbeaten. Most notably, top prospect Vanes Martirosyan (23-0, 14 KO) won an eight-round decision over Billy Lyell (18-7, 3 KO), with a performance described by BoxingScene.com's Luis Sandoval as "flat."

Heavyweight Travis Kauffman improved to 16-0 with a first round knockout of journeyman Cliff Couser, who has looked totally uninterested in fighting the last couple times I've seen him and apparently did in this bout, too. Kauffman's knockout was his 13th.

Chris Avalos (9-0, 7 KO) stopped Torrance Daniels (12-9-1, 5 KO) in the eighth and final round of their fight, and Houston's Omar Henry improved to 3-0 with a first round knockout of Francisco Martinez.

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What are Arce’s best/most entertaining fights (regardless of it was in a loss)? I’ve only seen him the few times that he’s been on BAD the past few years (only one i clearly remember was the awful fight with the Argentinian), and you’ve spoken so highly of him that I would like to try to find some of these great fights of his.

by battle axe of doom on Feb 8, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Arce against Hussein Hussein

Awesome fight.

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by SC on Feb 8, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Arce-Carbajal was great too

He lost that fight, but it was one of those situations where he was winning pretty handily and then completely ran out of gas in the 10th or so (he was only about 19 at the time) and the fight got called a TKO when he completely lost his legs.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 9, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of his fights Pre-2007

have been awesome. I strongly suggest starting with his first fight against Hussein Hussein to get a glimpse of just how tough and unbelievably entertaining he was during his better days.

by keyz on Feb 8, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

thanks guys

I’ll be on the lookout for that fight.

by battle axe of doom on Feb 9, 2009 2:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you have 'on-demand'

Check there. I wouldn’t be surprised if Showtime On Demand has “Arce’s Greatest Hits” or something like that up there right now.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 9, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Vic fought a great fight

But I have to give much props for Arce. I was trully amazed how he was able to stay in there before the bell of the 12 round.

Anyone that has any decency... please let me know if the Urango-Ngoudjo's 10th round fight is over.

by CRAZEDANG1280 on Feb 9, 2009 11:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not a good sign

If Billy Lyell (who’s the very definition of a decent midwestern clubfighter) was beating Matirosyan to the punch. I haven’t been bashful about saying I think he’s the best of the 154 pound prospects right now for the long-term (yes, better than Angulo, Kirkland and Julio), but if he doesn’t have the fire, he’s not going to get anywhere. Speed isn’t Matirosyan’s strong suit generally (not that it’s any of those guys’ strong suits), but he should have been able to use lateral movement to outbox Lyell all night long. Doesn’t bother me that he didn’t KO Lyell though. Kirkland earned a TKO against him, but it was more of a mercy stoppage than anything – he still wasn’t hurt after taking a beating from Kirkland for 8 rounds.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 9, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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