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Bernard Hopkins and the Kingdom of the Cruiserweights

Alg_hopkins-pavlik_medium As you have likely read by now, Dan Rafael reports that he spoke to Bernard Hopkins this week, and that Hopkins has a fight on his mind.

The fight? A cruiserweight championship match with current king Tomasz Adamek, who beat Johnathon Banks on Friday night in Newark.

The reason? To become a legit world champion in three weight classes (he's already been ruler of the middleweights and light heavyweights), and to show he can still do it.

It's not about proving anyone wrong anymore. If anybody doubts Bernard Hopkins at this point, they're insane. I said halfway into his destruction of Kelly Pavlik last October that I was never doubting Hopkins again. I thought Pavlik would retire him. Not quite.

Let's compare recent records.

Since 2005, Hopkins (49-5-1, 32 KO) has gone just 4-3, but it's deeper than that. The only fight I thought he convincingly lost was to Joe Calzaghe, and some felt he did enough to win that one. He was highly competitive against Jermain Taylor in two close decision losses, and he's beaten Howard Eastman, Antonio Tarver, Winky Wright and Pavlik. He manhandled Tarver and Pavlik; the brash Tarver even admitted that if Hopkins had "felt like it," he could've knocked him out.

Since 2005, Adamek (37-1, 25 KO) has gone 9-1, but there are some padding wins there like Gary Gomez, Josip Jalusic and Luis Pineda. He won two Fight of the Year candidates over Paul Briggs at 175 pounds and another last December against Steve Cunningham to become cruiserweight champ. He also stopped Thomas Ulrich and O'Neil Bell in there. His only loss came to Chad Dawson in his final fight at light heavyweight.

Adamek is a little over 6'1" with a 75-inch reach. Hopkins is listed at 6'1" with a 75-inch reach. Adamek is no huge cruiserweight; he was notably smaller-framed than Johnathon Banks on Friday. Hopkins is a true middleweight who has dominated good fighters at 175 and 170 pounds. I don't think the weight, even at age 44, would be a problem.

So, screw it, let's assume it happens, and there's no reason to not think it will, since it's easily Adamek's biggest money opportunity and biggest fight ever, and Bernard seems quite taken by the idea. Who wins? Let's talk shop already.

Hopkins will blow him out. Let me tell you why:

  1. He's a vastly superior boxer. Adamek has good skills and a nice amateur background, but Hopkins takes cerebal boxing to another level.
  2. His chin is as good as they come. And I mean that in a historical sense. Adamek would have to scorch Hopkins to stop him. No one else has come close to taking him out before the final bell.
  3. Even at his age, he's just as quick as Adamek.
  4. Adamek can be hit. Adamek can also punch. But Hopkins is such a master of the disruption game that he preys on fighters like this. Kelly Pavlik is a hell of a good puncher with some defensive holes, too, and Hopkins chewed him up. I see much of the same. If Adamek tries to fire back, he'll find himself in Bernard's clinch before he can get off.
  5. He's a better fighter. Period.

But the weight! The weight! Listen, the weight just isn't that big of a deal. I've kind of felt that way in the past, and I let myself get caught up in the weight in December for de la Hoya-Pacquiao. Yes, guys have limits. Hopkins can't fight a Klitschko and expect to do well. Adamek isn't much bigger than him. Guys have done this sort of thing before. In recent years former middleweight stars Roy Jones Jr. and James Toney have done well at higher weights, up to and including heavyweight.

What if Bernard were to beat Adamek? Do you think he'd try heavyweight? There are guys I'd pick him to beat. Ruslan Chagaev is one. I think he'd shut Valuev out simply because Valuev would have no idea what to do with him.

We'll cross that bridge if we ever come to it. But like most I've seen talk about Adamek-Hopkins, I love the fight. As strong as I feel about Hopkins dominating Adamek, Tomasz does present a unique and major challenge for the 44-year old legend. And even taking Bernard out of it, Adamek is the type of fighter that deserves a fight like this. He's worked hard, draws a crowd, makes for pleasing fights, and never complains.

I say bring it on.

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it'll be ugly

I think Hopkins makes it a messy, ugly war of attrition a la the Calzaghe fight rather than blowing him out. I can’t take anything away from the excellence of his career as a whole, but I personally believe that his win against Pavlik was more down to the latter simply not carying the weight up well and being extremely sluggish(up 6lbs from the second Taylor fight where he looked a lot less good) Adamek will be at his natural weight. He’ll struggle to get off, but he will hit harder.

by BrianBrock on Mar 1, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I fundamentally agree with your points here Scott, and as I suggested in a previous thread, even though I am an Adamek fan (and for all my professional respect for B-Hop, I personally dislike him), I too would pick Hopkins to win. I do think, though, that you overstate the case a bit, and that you underestimate Adamek at this weight. I would pick Hopkins to win a close but unanimous decision.

Adamek would be in the best shape of his life and would pressure Hopkins and control the ring for several rounds. Adamek, too, has a rock solid chin (better than Pavlik), and he punches hard and has a proven ability to pull the trigger. He can be quite brutal, and given the chance, he might very well hurt Hopkins. Though I see Hopkins ultimately finding a way out of such assaults, I also see Adamek winning some rounds decisively.

This might be “damning with faint praise,” but I believe Adamek gives B-Hop a much better fight than Pavlik. I also think Adamek deserves some credit for his ring intelligence. His skill-set may be limited compared to Hopkins, but he knows his skills, and he knows how to use them to their best ability. Adamek has also demonstrated the ability to execute a gameplan. Finally, I would add that Adamek’s biggest career problem so far has been dealing with southpaw, which, of course, Hopkins is not.

by Matt Miller on Mar 1, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

all valid points

The perfect “Adamek has a real chance” to my “Yeah he has a chance but a pretty bad one.”

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by SC on Mar 1, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know Hopkins would win this fight but the novelty of the fight is something that all us true fight fans would love to see. Both fighters reflect the best of the sport at what they do. You have the classical boxer and the always eye catching heavy hitter. Adamek would be by far the most powerful fighter Hopkins has faced and I think he would have a decent chance to really get the W. Hopkins would have a good workrate order to get the UD because we all know that Adamek isn’t going down for the count. One thing for sure, whoever imposes their will on the fight would be at a significant advantage. Hopkins is good enough to beat Adamek in his own game,( like Marquez did vs Diaz) but he also has the ability to outclass him if he lets his hands go.

It would be a great fight at the Boardwalk Hall, and rewards the fans just like this past weekend. Hopkins in many people eyes is in the top 3 p4p fighter and Adamek is the MAN at cruiserweight. I have no doubt that Hopkins could beat whoever the WBA has a champ but Adamek is a guy in his prime and is actually a great fighter.

by Zocalo on Mar 1, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

sure hope this fight happens. Hop may beat him in an ugly, clinch happy fight. But, if Adamek hits him with a straight right hand he may stop Hop. Adamek is a hard-punching cruiserweight, Hopkins is a hard punching former middle-weight and a decent puncher above that. I know we’ve been quick to make too much about weight movement, but I think weight is relevant here.

by lcollins1 on Mar 1, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YES

I would think it would be an awesome fight. I remember there was talk about Hopkins fighting Oleg Maskaev when he was a heavyweight champ. He said he had a game plan to beat him, so why not Adamek. Adamek would pose greater problems than Pavlik.

by JasonTryp on Mar 1, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Props to Bernard...

for picking the winner, and calling him out BEFORE the fight haha.

It's not the size of the dog... It's whats in the fight of Bernard Hopkins! -BHOP

by blackpage on Mar 2, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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