Arum says Pavlik-Abraham "is going to happen"
by Scott Christ on Mar 24, 2009 1:26 AM EDT
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Don't worry any longer. (Well, maybe.) Should Kelly Pavlik beat Sergio Mora and Arthur Abraham beat Vernon Forrest in their likely next fights, the two best middleweights in the world look like they'll hook up late this year:
“I wouldn’t do it on pay per view,” Arum said. “But both networks, HBO and Showtime, have shown enormous interest in that fight. So we believe there’ll be enough money to make it worthwhile.
“Talks are going on right now. It’s going to happen. Kelly has definitely signed off on it, and Abraham wants it too.”
Faaaantastic. I figured it wouldn't happen because it's just not fiscally responsible of the promoters or probably the networks, even, but there's also this: Arum knows there's NO ONE LEFT for Pavlik to fight if he beats TV star Mora. The middleweight division is devoid of stars. Boxing fans know these are the world's two best 160-pounders. Among the diehards, this is one of the most desired fights in the sport.
It all sounds good right now, but keep your fingers crossed. Both guys deserve the fight. The fans deserve the fight. And hopefully both could become bigger stars because of it.
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damn good news i’m glad this is going to be on hbo or showtime (hopefully showtime, less merchant, lamply, and kellerman the better i say) but i dont see how this isn’t a ppv compared to the other crap top rank puts on ppv.
Because it costs a lot of money that they won’t get back on PPV. HBO or Showtime could give them a lot more money for it than they’d make going independent PPV.
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by Scott Christ on Mar 24, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
yea i know. im just saying. compared to the crap top rank puts on ppv, which are gloried espn or telemundo cards, this fight is actually ppv worthy if there are a couple names on the undercard.
by sonofapsycho on Mar 24, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It surely is worthy. More worthy than most fights, period, let alone Pavlik-Rubio or Pavlik-Mora.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 25, 2009 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Abraham is promoted by Wilfried Sauerland. Don’t hold your breath, but it’s good that Pavliks camp are up for this, although I think Pavlik would lose quite heavily – it’ll be interesting to see what happens when Pavlik meets someone he can’t bully around, and can hit back as hard.
Cracking fight, Abraham by late stoppage for me!
Sauerland historically has been a pretty good and rational promoter
He doesn’t have his fighters hold belts hostage, and he’s shown a willingness to get reasonable deals done in the past. Kohl (Universum) is the one who’s typically a jackass in trying to get fights made.
Hopefully it does get made. If a network is willing to pay for it, there’s no good reason for it to not happen.
I think Pavlik takes this one easily. I’ve always thought Pavlik beats Abraham, Abraham beats Sturm, Sturm beats Pavlik. Stylistically, Pavlik is all wrong for Abraham. A guy with a high workrate who can box on the outside (and thus won’t leave himself prone to get countered by the somewhat stubby Abraham) should present Abraham with major issues. Throwing punches only for the last 45 seconds of a round isn’t going to fly in front of American judging either.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I'll take Pavlik too
Abraham is too stationary to beat Pavlik in my opinion. He doesn’t have the tools or the craft to do what Hopkins did to Pavlik. And I think Pavlik will be able to punch through Abraham’s gloves and not leave himself open like Miranda. Also a big reason I think the 1st Miranda fight was so much more competitive is because after Pavlik knocked out Miranda, he hasn’t had the punch resistance or will that he had prior to being stopped.
Good
It’s one of those boxing ironies that a fight I’d actually be willing to shell out PPV money for simply can’t afford to be a PPV. I wouldn’t have even particularly cared about the undercard. This is the only fight at middleweight that matters, and and the result a toss-up. The straight right versus the “bad left hook.” Awesome.
Then again, yesterday he was lying and today he is telling the truth.
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To be perfectly honest
I’ll believe it when I see it. Arum has been talking about this fight to happen and on the other hand we keep on hearing about “Oh we have to give Abraham exposure in the states.” It will be an intriguing match up eaither way. Don’t wanna jinx it so no fingers crossing from my end.
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I agree with you.
has Abraham’s people also said the same things in the past about both Pavlik and Strum and neither fights have happened yet. Also hard to see how fighting Forrest will get Abraham exposure in the U.S. Yes Forrest is a pretty good fighter but he has almost no name recognition. I could ask 100 people who he is and maybe 5 would know him.
But every boxing fan knows who he is
Other than Mora and Mandredo, there isn’t really anyone near 160 with general name recognition at this point. Vernon Forrest is probably more well-known generally than Paul Williams, John Duddy, or whatever other US options are out there.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Perhaps when pigs fly.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 25, 2009 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
After the screw job he got against DLH
who blames him for protecting his “Ordinary” WBA title. I mean he is fighting Koji Sato next… What more could you possibly ask of him?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 27, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's more of a Universum move than a personal move
90% of boxers just fight the guys their promoters put in front of them. Universum has a long and sordid history of hijacking titles for its fighters, then having them fight the weakest competition available.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
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